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Politico's journalistic malpractice

Ever wonder why it was a crime to print the bible in ENGLISH.On Beltway paper runs two of the dumbest stories of the decade on climate science posted 1 year ago 18 Responses

Early warning signs at the Global Warming Café

To be able to see signs of global warming linked to CO2 you need two things (1) accurate CO2 data and (2) accurate temperature data. There is accurate CO2 data but only since 1958 at Mauna Loa, as for temperature, well there are thousands of high quality rural weather stations throughout the world and especially in the US and the northern hemisphere that have long histories and NO UHI bias. These stations are totally uncontaminated and provide temperature data from a totally natural environment like Mauna Loa does for CO2.

What do warmers such as Hanson/Giss do, well, they use station pairs and compare data from a highly UHI contaminated urban city weather station with CLEAN data from a neighbouring RURAL station. They then Use some secret algorithm put all the data through a computer which then gives them the result in degrees C. The odd thing is that the result always shows a steep rising temperature trend when the neighbouring RURAL CLEAN data shows only a flat or a slightly rising temperature trend.

Would it not have been more logical to have discarded the contaminated data from the Urban stations and used only the clean data from the Rural sites. I believe the answer to this is that this method would not allow the easy fiddling of data.

The Hanson method,
Bad data + good data = very good data because it shows rising temperatures, this is called Hansonisation.

Good data from RURAL weather stations =  NO link between CO2 and temperature rise and we don`t want that do we.
On The Climate Policy Paradigm has reached its endgame posted 1 year, 6 months ago 21 Responses

The Eye of the Storm

London's Urban Heat Island: A Summary for Decision Makers.

The urban heat island is caused by the storage of solar energy in the urban fabric during the day and release of this energy into the atmosphere at night.  The process of urbanisation and development alters the balance between the energy from the sun used for raising the air temperature (heating process) and that used for evaporation (cooling process), because the cooling effect of vegetated surfaces is replaced by impervious engineered surfaces.

The strength of the urban heat island is measured by the `urban heat island intensity', which describes the maximum difference in temperature between urban and rural locations within a given time period. The highest values of the urban heat island intensity, in the region of 6-8oC, are often reached between about 11 o'clock at night and 3 o'clock in the morning (Figure 2). This is why the urban heat island is often referred to as a nighttime phenomenon. UHI intensities are also greater in summer than winter because of contrasts in the amount of energy received from the sun, which is absorbed by the urban surface during the day and released at night. The urban heat island keeps London warmer in winter - this can be seen in how spring occurs earlier in London and snow settles less often.

Has there been any significant warming since the end of world war2, I think not,the London study shows 6-8 degrees C UHI warming because of population growth and urban development, Tokyo shows similar, so does Sao Paulo, Budapest, shows 3-4 degrees c

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

The total population increase in the 18 years (1967-1984 was 739,591 and the annual mean maximum temperature in the same period became warmer by 1.7 degrees C. The annual mean maximum temperature attained lt`s peak in the year 2000. It is interesting to observe that the urban population was also the highest in that same year.

Hong Kong Urban Heat Island,

After analyzing the data, PolyU researchers found that there was an average temperature difference of 7° to 8°C between urban and rural of areas of Hong Kong in a winter night, and the maximum difference could be as high as 12°C. On a summer night, 0.004 degrees C says Peterson.

http://www.polyu.edu.hk/cpa/polyu/hotnews/details_et.php? ...

These urban city examples are spread widely over the planet, what does Hanson allow, 0.004C, How do you stop Hansonisation, drop the urban stations and use only rural, easy peasy.  

Average Global temperature, what average global temperature, global warming what global warming.

Averaged temps across the state of North Carolina,

There has been no long-term trend in the state's annual temperature history since 1895

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/o ...

http://www.climateaudit.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/br ...
On Global temps may drop this year but, alas, world still warming posted 1 year, 6 months ago 132 Responses

The Eye of the Storm

Over the last century, Tokyo temperatures have increased five times as fast as global warming,'' said Takehiro Mikami, a professor of climatology at Tokyo Metropolitan University. While the world's average mean temperature has increased by one degree Fahrenheit since 1900, Tokyo's has increased by 5.2 degrees.(have they actually increased by 1 degree F, I wonder)

The findings parallel recent research by NASA scientists using satellites to monitor Mexico City, Atlanta and dozens of other growing metropolises around the world. They found that cities tend to have temperatures far warmer than the surrounding landscape, in many cases up to 10 degrees warmer. Often the heat changes the weather itself, causing more storms downwind of cities, the scientists found.
Might this have something to do with population growth in urban areas.

What did the Peterson study find, No significant UHI warming, just 0.004 degrees C, mmm.

By the way, over 90% of the hottest months in the US temperature history occurred prior to 1960, I can see some sort of trend in those figures like CO2 increasing and temperatures remaining flat, that is unless they get Hansonise.On Global temps may drop this year but, alas, world still warming posted 1 year, 6 months ago 132 Responses

Alas, Alaska

Just FOOD(seals) for thought,

Fossils show us that seals existed during the Miocene era, about 20 million years ago.

Polar bears have existed for at least 130,000 years.

Now err I believe there has been warmer periods over the 130,000 year existence of the Polar bear, and that warmer period obviously did not cause the extinction of the afore mentioned bear or its food, the seals. Scientists estimate that there are between 20,000 to 25,000 polar bears and counting.

My understanding is that three bears were recently drowned in a storm, a couple had a fight and the sea ice in the Arctic was less dense in the 1930-40`s than now. These greenies don`t like to go back too far, only to the late 1970`s.

I think the logic of these Greenies is somewhat flawed, what about the grizzly.
On Alaska legislature looking for polar-bear skeptics posted 1 year, 6 months ago 159 Responses