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Kuke
The link you supplied refers to a story about GreenPower that will reflect the situation if the proposed legislation is passed, not the current state. Its not very well written, because a lot of the quotes are taken out of context, but skip to the last three paragraphs. Its the same point that I'm making.
There is an old story on the SMH by Jeff Angel (quoted out of context in the ABC story) which makes things clearer:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/earth-hour/its-not-easy--being-green-20090324-9848.html
Jim,
Your comment was posted about five hours after mine, so any link between my comments and yours is in your imagination. I'm also not sure why you are referring me to the Chinese government - perhaps you are confusing me with a different poster. In defence of the Chinese government, their one-child policy is probably the single most effective policy in reducing future emissions enacted anywhere in the world.
I'm suprised that you elect to draw attention to the coal industry - the meagre reduction in emissions sought by this legislation are more than outweighed by the planned increase in coal exports from Asutralia. Whilst the public has already turned on the coal export industry, I suspect that you will become increasingly visible as an originator of emissions.
Regarding clean coal - the coal industry has repeatedly shown down here in NSW that it can't even mine under a water-catchment without the water emptying from the creek systems and into the mines. The idea that it has the competence to transport and sequester massive quantities of CO2 for hundreds of years underground without leaks is laughable. I haven't me a single geologist who believes that is is possible on even 10% of the scale required (I'm married to a geologist, so I meet a fair number). Keep taking the clean coal handouts while you can, your days are clearly numbered and our day in the sun is coming.
On The defeat of Australia's climate plan is not bad news for cap-and-trade posted 3 months, 2 weeks ago 12 ResponsesIts a bit of a stretch to describe the proposed Australian scheme as a cap-and-trade measure - the only cap that has been defined at the moment is the $10/tonne cap on the price of permits.
What could have been a good scheme, a proving ground for other countries has turned into a scramble by the polluters for free permits (value $billions). With its very low targets (a reduction of 5% on 2000 emissions) and the ability of polluters to buy in credits from overseas, its possible that the scheme could see NO REDUCTION in Australian emissions.
The most successful scheme for avoiding emissions in Australia has been the GreenPower scheme whereby homeowners, businesses and local authorities can buy certified GreenPower by paying extra for their electricity. Each kWh of GreenPower is currently certified to be clean energy produced above and beyond the mandatory targets that the power industry has. This scheme will be eviscerated by the proposed legislation which is going to include any GreenPower as part of the targets that the power generators have to make - so every kWh of GreenPower I buy is a kWh less that the power company has to generate.
The government seems to be having two dialogs about this legislation - one with the resource companies, who donate vast amounts of money their way and one with the even-more-coal-faced Liberal/Nats party who are electorally irrelevant. They aren't engaging with the public or the Green party (who could pass the legislation if it was amended to be effective).
On The defeat of Australia's climate plan is not bad news for cap-and-trade posted 3 months, 2 weeks ago 12 Responsesjabailo calculations
My calculations show 2 polar areas, maybe you need to revisit your maths with this in mind.On Report from AGU meeting: One meter sea-level rise by 2100 'very likely' posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago 4 Responses
Monkey butt
Crutzen's comments seem reasonable to me, whilst the argument you present against him seems a bit contrived. By all means attack the politicians for their vacillation, but hammering Crutzen's comments like an odd way to lead into it.
As Crutzen says, reduced economic activity will probably mean reduced fossil fuel burning, which is good climate-wise.
I'm not sure that you are disagreeing with that, it seems to be the comment about the slower increase of CO2 emissions in the atmosphere. Reducing the rate of increase of emissions is a necessary step to turning that rate negative. For the climate it doesn't matter how that rate change occurs, its just important that it does occur.
You say "If carbon dioxide emissions stopped growing forever, concentrations would still keep rising forever".
This isn't true if the rate of emissions growth goes negative. In that case concentrations would actually drop, rather than still keep rising forever.On Nobelist Paul Crutzen suggests that a slowdown in the economy could be good for the climate posted 1 year, 1 month ago 5 Responses
Re: Airbus loser
I guess you mean Fourier transforms, named after Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier the famous French mathematician.
Fourier is also famous for his discovery of the greenhouse effect (in 1824).On Airlines must pay for emissions, E.U. says posted 1 year, 5 months ago 7 Responses
Other coal songs
Imagine, having to fight
To work two miles down from the air and the light
And imagine, having to plead
That a job that can kill, is a job that you needWords from Latin Quarter's "The Men Below" that have been stuck in my mind for ummm... 21 years. Gosh. Its pretty interesting to revisit their music now and look at how many of the issues they were singing about are unresolved.
From memory this dates from the Thatcher government's battles against the mining union (NUM). I've never been a fan of Thatcher, but she did have her finger on the pulse when it came to global warming.
Thanks for the article - along with the discussion, its opened up a few new artists for me to get my ears around.On Songs about the enemy of the human race posted 1 year, 7 months ago 30 Responses
diamond meet pvc, pvc meet diamond
Every time you play a record the diamond tipped stylus is grinding away in the groove creating... PVC dust.
Playing the things sounds downright reckless... I did see a new record player that played with a <DrEvil>laser</DrEvil> replacing the regular stylus, but like Umbra says you then have to put up with heavy metal.
On Umbra on vinyl records posted 1 year, 9 months ago 10 Responsesand the USA is on which planet ?
"I just don't think that continuing the IPCC process will have any meaningful impact on American climate policy. And much of the rest of the industrialized world is ready to make the necessary commitments now."
The USA is one nation amongst two hundred. Are you really so blinkered that you think that the IPCC should close down because one nation's political process is so corrupted by vested interests that it can't develop a useful climate change policy ?On It is doubtful that future IPCC reports will make a difference in climate policy posted 1 year, 11 months ago 9 Responses
Australian wildlife and bushfires
I think that the Australian electorate's concerns about global warming (where they exist) are rather closer to home than toasted marsupials.
No water for sports fields; no water for the garden; diminished food crops; the cost of building desalination plants; the possible destruction of the Barrier Reef and the loss of beach-side property probably figure higher in most people's conscience than wild-life loss.
Bush-fires are a regular feature of the Australian summer - the increase in frequency and intensity is an incremental change and if people do worry about it, they worry most about their family and/or house being burnt.
With John Howard stepping down as leader of his party and his former deputy quitting, its possible that someone who has a real handle on the dangers posed by climate change could become the leader of the opposition. Or we they could go for another chump.
Balance of power in the senate is still up for grabs, the number crunching will take a while - the Greens will be part of the deal, but there may be others involved.
Andy
On Australian prime minister goes down to decisive defeat posted 2 years ago 14 ResponsesWhy not cut production ?
I've always thought that it made more economic sense for the countries in OPEC to reduce their output. That would force prices up and would extend the duration of their oil reserves and the wealth that flows from it. They should be able to take a slightly longer term perspective than the next quarter.
I guess that if they did take that approach then some rogue state may decide to go and bomb them back to the stone-age.On OPEC nations demand that petroleum-consuming countries maintain current thirst for oil posted 2 years ago 13 Responses
Pollute less, consume less => produce less
What Karsten said is right - consuming less consumes less.
There's a flip-side to this (and its neat) - we need to produce less too. With your reduced consumption you shouldn't need as much money anyway. Reduce your productivity, slack off at work, play more.
AndyOn Umbra on power strips posted 2 years ago 13 Responses
Estimating power usage
Instead of using a gizmo to measure the overall power-use of your home, you could just read the power meter each day and do the sums to see how much you use each day. You soon yet to spot the energy patterns of your household - when there were two washes done, when someone baked a cake or roasted something in the oven.
Re: the Tivo problem. The open source Tivo-equivalent, MythTV, can be configured so that it powers itself off and just powers back on when there is something to record. Because its based on a PC, it still draws power when its off (you see the LAN connection LED glow), but you can safely put a timer device on it if you never record (say) day-time TV. That's what we use in our (sub 5kWh/day) house. Still looking for a microwave without a clock.
AndyOn Umbra on power strips posted 2 years ago 13 Responses
Agriculture and coal
Sam, have a look at this for my state (NSW): http://www.agric.nsw.gov.au/reader/drt-area-200708-large. ...
There have been some epic rainfalls on the coast in the last quarter, but this isn't where most of the farming is, its where the people live. These rains boosted the water supply to some of the major cities , but have done little to relieve the drought inland.
Despite this, the state government has just approved two HUGE new coal mines. Whilst they talk about tackling climate change, their actions are a serious part of the problem.
undyOn Drought predicted to spread across Australia and the United States posted 2 years, 2 months ago 9 Responses