Comments ed abbey has made
- Looks like you two aren't all that familiar with popular uprisings and their dynamics. In any case, and as already noted, these forces ARE amassing as last week's action and upcoming events like 350.org attest. These people won't go away because DC can't get its' act together. The anti-war movement during Nam didn't go away when anti-war resolutions failed in congress. All these actions are about raising awareness, pushing the envelope of accepted limits, moving beyond the dominant paradigm. "If the people lead, the leaders will eventually follow". Read your history. If you're in Washington, DC you're in a bubble.........pop it!On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses
- This is nonsense. Young people and other activists are already in motion. The movement is growing with every vanished glacier, extinct species, flood destroyed city, etc. In fact we're commenting on their VERY action last week! There's nothing more in the way of "self-interest" than the f'ing climate crisis! Watch what happens with 350.org. Further: "a far sighted entity can take action - this is usually a government"??? far-sighted government? Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.......On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses
- Well then Susan, put a cap on it AND initiate a tax. it seems yur' trapped in the present paradigm.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses
- Weiss has obviously been beneath the Beltway toooo long: “Unfortunately the moral high ground of ‘we must act for our children’ is necessary but not sufficient for our political process.” Well then, Danny, the process needs to be shaken up.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 4 weeks ago 104 Responses
- The bill in the Senate is fraught with error & false solutions. Cap & Trade is a suck-up to Wall Street & industry. The definition of renewables is all over the map, including such non-renewables as industrial-scale biomass incineration. Nukes & King Coal still get subsidies.....i do believe. Soooo, what's there to celebrate? Incremental change in the face of massive climate disruption? Sorry. It's business-as-usual in DC.On Boxer, Kerry will introduce Senate climate bill next week posted 2 months ago 3 Responses
anything van jones did or is falsely accused of doing pales in comparison to the bat-crazy stuff coming out of the repugnicans and assholes like glen beck. gives us a break! why do these people have ANY cred?? because they've leveraged enough flow to air trash like faux news? arrggghhhh! help, i've fallen down the rabbit hole!!
On Will Glenn Beck bring down Van Jones after all? posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago 47 ResponsesRandy Cunningham must've fallen asleep after Seattle. It was the WTO and subsequent anti-corporate globalization actions that put the issues of globalization and corporate privatization & dominance on the map. The Bush regime's invasion of Afghanistan & Iraq is what distracted that movement, not some perceived loss of imagination.
And, speaking of imagination, imagine this: http://www.actforclimatejustice.org/...........they're baaaaack!
On Climate disobedience: Is a new "Seattle" in the making? posted 3 months, 2 weeks ago 7 ResponsesHow many puppets do you see in this picture?
On Caption needed! UPDATE: Caption found posted 3 months, 2 weeks ago 21 ResponsesThe track is "privatization of the sea" , Mr. "career green credentials" (yawn). The fact that you "don't care about corporado" speaks volumes about where you're coming from, imho. Does the Orion Society receive corporate funding too? Just how much ARE you willing to compromise for the right project in the WRONG place??
I don't recall assailing your credentials either, Eric. You seem sensitive about that, but you don't seem hesitant to trash RFK, Jr., another career green.
As for Ed Abbey supporting Cape Wind...ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.........
On Privatize the seas? If only solving overfishing were so easy posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago 16 ResponsesErik, it's not as tired as enviros (like yourself?) selling out to the corporados, gifting them with public lands and spaces while they laugh all the way to the bank. As for the fisher-folk and navigators: who have you been talking to?? My understanding is that Horseshoe Shoals is prime conch grounds, plus a favorite of local fishers for other catch. Ans, all those pylons you seem so fond of become big threats when the weather turns, the fog rolls in, and your radar is on the blink, especially since they span an area the size of Manhattan!
I know a whole cabal of you guys from Big Green are all ga-ga about Cape Wind and I fully understand the need for wind & solar, but at what cost? You've sold out to the corporados and given the shaft to the bats & birds too boot. In the bargain, it appears you have developed a real case of tunnel-vision to sooth your collective conscience, as well. Like we always say: Cape Wind: the right project in the WRONG place!
On Privatize the seas? If only solving overfishing were so easy posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago 16 Responses>>Moreover, the social justice implications of ITQs are troubling. Privatizing the ocean through ITQs further reinforces the same dynamic we see in other forms of privatization that accompanies development schemes around the world. A strata of society with access to capital, loans and equipment benefits richly but the poor become even poorer because they lose access to traditional resources.<<
That's EXACTLY the point we've been trying to make about the Cape Wind project in Nantucket Sound. Big Wind wins/little fisher-guy, little navigator loses.
On Privatize the seas? If only solving overfishing were so easy posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago 16 ResponsesRiiiiight! "You can do simple things to fight climate change", nevermind the BIG stuff like shutting down coal operations or serious enemies of the planet in their corporate boardrooms! Leave it to the corporados at WWF to lay all the blame on you & me while they fly their private jets off to the next executive love-fest. Arrrgghhhh!
On Discover how climate change is affecting our world posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago 1 Response" I believe that whatever the [renewable energy standard] percentage is, it will take off. It will take off", says Ms. Pelosi; and David seems to agree. But hey, remember how far the House streeeeeetched the definition of "renewables". Bogus technologies like industrial biomass (read forest and toxic material incineration); nukes; and "clean" coal will be hogging the front row by the feeding trough, leaving wind, solar, etc. fighting for the scraps. It's corporate capitalism, David. Wake up!
On Obama strategy on climate bill: get it passed, then let markets make the argument posted 5 months ago 5 ResponsesThe naivete appears to be all your, Veritone. You seem to be of the opinion that there exists no "Big Green" ready to cut ANY deal with the corporados destroying the planet just so they can declare any semblance of "victory". Get real! Your allies in government and their corporate sponsers are playing you. Your incremental baby steps won't help the babies one bit.
On Reactions to passage of the House climate and energy bill posted 5 months ago 8 ResponsesMe thinks this bill really sucks
though it should render lots of bucks
to those responsible, that's the crux
what a bunch of lousey f........umm.....clucks?
On Climate-news poem: OMG They're Voting! edition posted 5 months ago 1 ResponseO look! Reactions from Big Green and enabling politicos! How....um.....enlightening? I wonder what actual activists think about this "historic vote"?
On Reactions to passage of the House climate and energy bill posted 5 months ago 8 Responses"Sweeping bill"! O right, it swept REAL action on the climate crisis out the door and swept more corporate greenwashing into the livingroom. Big Green and spineless Dems are sleep-walking in a world of half-measures.
Meanwhile, out in the real world, key players like James Hansen and actual activists are going to jail in order to sound the alarm that Washington half-measures only serve to lull us to sleep and fatten the corporate coffers (and Capitol Hill campaign finances, etc.). Sour grapes? Not really. Just thought I'd mention: your hair is on fire.
On House passes landmark climate and clean-energy bill posted 5 months ago 10 ResponsesStill no mention of the big push by industry, government and many in Big Green for more biomass incinerators (or BIOMESS as we like to say). Grist is truly asleep at the switch on this one. If all these supposed "renewable" sources of energy are built you can kiss your improved air quailty and a good number of forests goodbye. Some of these incinerators will be burning toxic C&D materials, some will be burning "eco cubes" made from trash!, some will be burning both! Others will be burning whole trees along with slash and calling it "carbon neutral" (even though it will take decades for those carbon sequesting trees to grow back) and leading to more clearcutting. Biomass is a BIOMESS. Wake-up!
On Enviros cringe as Senate committee approves energy bill posted 5 months, 1 week ago 3 Responses"Forcing them to start looking for clean generating capacity, even if in the beginning it’s only biomass..." Whoa! Reality check: they've expanded the definitions in Waxman-Markey that would allow massive clearcutting of our CARBON SEQUESTING forests to feed big bimass incinerators. Also, many on those incinerators will be burning C&D waste containing toxins, as well as burning toxic trash. "Clean generating"? We don't think so!
On The faint silver lining of the Waxman-Markey clean-energy-mandates cloud posted 5 months, 1 week ago 4 ResponsesYup, you missed the Mobilization for Climate Justice. Check it out! The Mobilization for Climate Justice is a North America-based network of organizations and activists who have joined together to build a North American climate justice movement that emphasizes non-violent direct action and public education to mobilize for effective and just solutions to the climate crisis. The Mobilization for Climate Justice invites communities, organizations and activists across North America to join us in organizing mass action on climate change on November 30, 2009 (N30).
see: http://www.actforclimatejustice.org/
On How to get involved in the fight against climate change posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago 3 ResponsesJoe Barton has always been low-life. He has a 0% rating in the League of Conservation Voters' Vote Scorecard for the 110th, 2nd session. Barton took third place in the Fossil Fools Award and swept the field in The Earth Killer Awards . His mother must have been frightened by the planet when she was carrying him.....unless, of course, he doesn't come from this planet.
On Joe Barton not interested in moral implications of climate change posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago 15 ResponsesYour love/hate relationship with Waxman & Markey seems to overlook their illicit affair with other men in suits. Those corporate lovers have stolen Waxman & Markey away from you. Look, for instance, on how they wooed Waxman & Markey into expanding the definition of "renewable" to include polluting industries and actual increases in CO2 emissions. Like they say: love is blind!
On 14 things I love -- and 6 things I hate -- about Waxman-Markey posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago 3 ResponsesBiomass is only "renewable" in the longterm. It will take decades for CLEARCUT forests to return to the stage they were at when devasted to feed the incinerators. Even then, the health of that forest will be greatly depleted. In addition, biomass incineration is DIRTIER THAN COAL! That's documented. Ed Markey should know this, but he's in bed with the biomass pushers in his home state of Massachusetts, like Gov. Patrick, friend of Obama.
On Everything you always wanted to know about the Waxman-Markey energy/climate bill -- in bullet points posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago 12 Responses
In short: biomass is a BIOMESS! But it's being hyped as "green" and to hell with what science says.....wait...is this the Bush era?i find it hard to believe you left out a successful WWII-scale public education program on energy conservation from your list. Far too few enviros seem to be working on the usage end of the fuel cycle.
On House committee approves landmark (bipartisan!) clean energy and climate bill posted 6 months, 1 week ago 2 ResponsesYikes! What happened to Biopmess....errr...that's Biomass in Section 610(a)(2) ? The word is our national & state forests will be sacraficed for the "sustainable" torching of whole trees for "carbon neutral' energy (all that in quotes is an urban legend, btw). To quote a friend:
"The inclusion of biomass in renewable energy legislation is based on the theory that it is "net" carbon neutral - that is, that within 50-100 years the trees will grow back and resequester the carbon, so there is no "net" increase in carbon releases. Based on this theory, legislators are supporting and taxpayers and electricitiy ratepayers are subsidizing the construction of a fleet of biomass power plants from Hawaii to Florida. The problem is, climate change expected to result in catastrophic impacts within a much shorter time frame than that. In fact, these new power plants would have the exact opposite of their intended effect"
Does the present legislation reflect this??
On Speculation runs rampant as Dems reportedly reach a deal on climate bill posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago 4 ResponsesThe Markey/Waxman effort might be a good start but it's back to the drawing board fellas'! Nowhere does this legislation address the corporado's privatization of The Commons in the name of responding to the climate crisis. False solutions like the present proposed site for Cape Wind or using whole logs clear-cut from PUBLIC lands for a slew of new biomass plants is simply an invitation to loot PUBLIC SPACE for PRIVATE PROFIT. Haven't we learned ANYTHING these past few months about the corporados and the damage they do? Are we REALLY prepared to hand over our coasatlines and forests to fill their coffers even more in the name of responding to climate change? Cape Wind remains "the right project in the wrong place" and much of the proposed new biomass facilities are a "biomess", but done sensibly these efforts CAN help in the struggle to protect the planet. Expecting Corporate America to come to the rescue is deus ex machina. The corporado's bottom line is not the planet's bottom line. Folks like Greenpeace and others in Big Enviro need to rethink their priorities.
On New climate legislation overlooks a major GHG source: industrial ag posted 7 months, 4 weeks ago 21 ResponsesBig Auto b.s.
What was that old sexist ad from the early '60s: "Promise her anything but give her Arpege"? Big Auto is treating the U.s. public and congress like an abused housewife, but hey, so's Wall Street. It's the next new thing! (actually, it's the same old/same old).
Sadly, today it looks like the Dems are caving once again (i thought this was the new Obama era??) to the Bush regime. Reports are surfacing that Dems may fold on Big Auto pulling back from those court cases on CO2 emmissions, as well as a solid in-writing commitment to new CAFE standards and EVs. We need to create the kind of firestorm of protest that grew around the wall street bailout. On Big Three auto execs pledge to become greener, more profitable posted 11 months, 3 weeks ago 4 Responses
Go Bobby!
What do i think? I think a whole lot of folks on this thread have drunk the compromise Kool-aide. Can't have an EPA administrator who's too strident! Goddess forbid! As to enviros being pissed at RFK, Jr. over Cape Wind: HA! A lot of us ALSO think Cape Wind sucks. Far too many enviros are too quick to cave on privatization of the Commons and to centralized power in their efforts to turn back the climate crisis.
As to "overheated work on Republican vote theft", you mean like the two stolen elections that gave us the Bush regime?? (you've GOT to be kidding). Furthermore, do you really think a f'ing lawyer ISN'T a "detail oriented managerial type"??
I don't know what's going on here on this page, but it smells like a lot of you have stepped in a steaming pile of compromise. Phew!On Obama considers RFK Jr. for EPA posted 1 year ago 34 Responses
Spinning in the wind....again
Arrgghh!! It's the Kennedy/wealthy viewshed strawman again! Everyone run for your lives!! Shame on Grist for misrepresenting the Cape Wind issue by implying it's simply about the view from Hyannisport. Grist editors need to read ALL the arguments and stop spinning for the Cape Wind privatizers and Big Enviro.On Massachusetts town could be first to build offshore wind farm in U.S. posted 1 year, 5 months ago 31 Responses
Anyone sick of Komanoff pimping for Cape Wind yet?
There he goes again! Cape Wind surely won't "directly reduce the burning of fossil fuel"; if the ill-advised industrial wind plant IS ever built its power will simply be added to the grid. There's no real guarantee that any coal stations will be magically shutdown if CW goes on line.
Also, once again, Komanoff plays the "Nantucket Sound "viewshed" enjoyed by wealthy Cape Cod landowners" card. Ha! There are countless working-class opponents of Cape Wind, people whose livelihoods will be destroyed or endangered by the project: navigators, fishing families, fliers; as well as middle and low-income folks who value Nantucket Sounds beauty as it is.
As for "appropriated ownership", THAT is exactly what Cape Wind is trying todo with the public space that is Horseshoe Shoals. Cape Wind is all about privatization of the Commons. They profit, we get stuck with the liabilities.
Cape Wind: the right project in the WRONG place!
On What we lose if Bloomberg's plan goes down posted 1 year, 8 months ago 5 ResponsesW's last pitch
Deservedly, W was roundly boo-ed, whether for his bad pitch or his bad policies (or both), i do not know. I do know that Faux News cut the audio to spare their viewers the humiliation they so richly deserve.On Washington Nationals will play in first U.S. green-built stadium posted 1 year, 8 months ago 4 Responses
Where it goes
Glad to hear the new guv has brought us back onboard. As to where it goes w/alt. energy i assume it goes right into Nantucket Sound w/Cape Wind: the Right project in the WRONG place!On Massachusetts rejoins the NE climate pact posted 2 years, 10 months ago 3 Responses
Sea Shepherd opposes Cape Wind
Serious hardcore defenders of the planet have no use for Cape Wind:
http://www.climateimc.org/?q=node/400Put that sucker on land, land that's already trashed. Stop supporting the theft of the commons and the corporados who profit from it. On Climate change is pushing this easygoing enviro over the edge posted 3 years, 5 months ago 57 Responses
Sea Shepherd opposes Cape Wind
Serious hardcore defenders of the planet have no use for Cape Wind:
http://www.climateimc.org/?q=node/400Put that sucker on land, land that's already trashed. Stop supporting the theft of the commons and the corporados who profit from it. On RFK Jr. and other prominent enviros face off over Cape Cod wind farm posted 3 years, 5 months ago 57 Responses
Stop yur' whinin' and get to work
The Cape coast was a dumb-ass place to errect windmills anyway. Quit attacking yur' fellow enviros and put those machines on land that's already trashed. From the looks of this map: http://www.nrel.gov/wind/images/wherewind800.jpg
Near Boston is a superb spot. On Cape Wind, R.I.P. posted 3 years, 7 months ago 17 Responsescape wind sucks
forget "sorry bobby", sorry, bill and the armchair enviros! stop w/the voice of god trade-offs and the divisive rhetoric already! this project was still-born from the get-go. put those suckers on deer island (already trashed by the outfall pipe, etc.), put them on f'ing beacon hill or ontop of walmart, not in a flyway. jeez!
if you guys would put your energy into good use shutting down the corporados instead of trashing each other, maybe we'd have made more progress by nowOn Climate change is pushing this easygoing enviro over the edge posted 3 years, 10 months ago 57 Responses
cape wind sucks
forget "sorry bobby", sorry, bill and the armchair enviros! stop w/the voice of god trade-offs and the divisive rhetoric already! this project was still-born from the get-go. put those suckers on deer island (already trashed by the outfall pipe, etc.), put them on f'ing beacon hill or ontop of walmart, not in a flyway. jeez!
if you guys would put your energy into good use shutting down the corporados instead of trashing each other, maybe we'd have made more progress by nowOn RFK Jr. and other prominent enviros face off over Cape Cod wind farm posted 3 years, 10 months ago 57 Responses
what's missing in this picture?
Maybe i read this too fast, but damned if i remember running across the word "conservation", or how about the term: "change of lifestyle"? Deus ex machina, it's sooooo American!On Is the world ready to waltz with nuclear again? posted 3 years, 11 months ago 10 Responses