Comments mskellyann has made
- Well, since I majored in biology and philosophy in college, I think I'm capable of following your attempt at an argument, as incoherent and closed-minded as it is. You can't expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you keep repeating the same two quotes from the same two scientists, over and over. On top of that, your precious quotes do not actually address the issues Mr. Philpott raises, or the scientists to which he refers. He is saying that we need to look at our practices, which is eminently sensible given the huge problems with CAFOs and industrial-scale agriculture. (Also, industrial pork can barely be termed "meat;" it bears little resemblance to organic, free-range pork.) Your posts are repetitive, ad hominem, and do not address the complexities raised in the original posts. If I were you I would hesitate to describe someone else as "wander[ing] down the line between illogic, misinformation and intellectual dishonesty." (Also, I'd like to see the line that can meander through three discrete areas!) That's all I have to say to you. May we meet again when you can be less reactionary! Goodbye.On Time for the mainstream media to face the factory farm-swine flu link posted 1 week, 5 days ago 23 Responses
- Yes, we've had flu epidemics before this. However, I can't even dignify your line of reasoning with the name of "logic." Just because flu epidemics have existed in the past does NOT mean that CAFOs can't be contributing to new strains of flu virus. In fact, it was probably CAFO-like human dwellings, including poor sanitation, that contributed to the terrible epidemics of the past. (Read a description of Manhattan in the first decades of the 20th century to get an idea of the conditions.) Airplanes and other places where humans are packed in together with recycled air certainly help spread disease, but because they are temporary, they do not make good places for new strains to form. Again, the possibility that CAFOs may be contribuing to new viral strains does not mean that CAFOs are the only potential causes of new strains. Just because we've had epidemics in the past does not rule out the role CAFOs may be playing in new viruses. Please - think before you spew. Thank you.On Time for the mainstream media to face the factory farm-swine flu link posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago 23 Responses
- Um, what about Philpott's references to the science of the matter? This is NOT about people catching swine flu from pigs. It is about CAFOs creating the perfect environment for the development of a virus like this. Read the whole article, folks!On Time for the mainstream media to face the factory farm-swine flu link posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago 23 Responses
- Excellent column; thank you for the sanity!On Save us, [insert techno-fix here], you're our only hope! posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago 7 Responses
- You are too funny, foodprovider. "Flaunt," indeed. Nope, no flaunting, just arguing logically. "You will bash the credability . . ." Nope, just thinking critically. Critical thinking is what I like to use along with my "common sense and faith in God." "GMO technology is a tool given us to use, why not use it?" *sigh* Because, as I've said before, it's based on faulty premises and bad science, and traps farmers in debt. It's also incredibly dangerous to existing plant breeds. I won't argue with you in future, I just thought you might really be open to learning. Boy was I wrong.On Bill Gates reveals support for GMO ag posted 1 month ago 44 Responses
- If you'd actually looked at the authors' names and publication date, you'd have seen that the study you linked to is not the same one I linked. Predictably, the one you found was published in an industry journal. If you want to read the one I linked to, go to a library. Thanks for helping make my point! Bye now.On Bill Gates reveals support for GMO ag posted 1 month ago 44 Responses
- Impact of Bt cotton adoption on pesticide use by smallholders: A 2-year survey in Makhatini Flats (South Africa) (2006) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T5T-4JHMHHR-2&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1062262638&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=df2f49ae1989b0d80b6a6b0c09a65625 http://www.steps-centre.org/PDFs/STEPSsumBtCotton.pdf has a good overview of some of the other issues faces by famers internationally, including cultural and educational issues. If GMOs are going to "feed the world," something non-GM crops can do already, incidentally, then they need to be able to be used effectively by poor farmers in isolated areas with little or no formal education. Why should they adopt GMOs, a scheme which only enriches American agri-chem companies, when they are now rediscovering excellent traditional techniques, techniques which had been abandoned by their grandfathers because of the "green revolution?" Even in GMO crops are effective in reducing pesticide use, the basic danger of introducing a non-evolved genetic structure into plant populations strongly argues against their use.On Bill Gates reveals support for GMO ag posted 1 month ago 44 Responses
- You have got to be kidding, foodprovider. Your analogy is backwards: you are listening to the agri-chemical companies rather than the poor plodders who sift through the science and the pseudo-science. Reading Cummings's book is more like listening to James Hansen back in the 80s. You want to know where you're wrong? Here you go: 1. You say plant genes are inserted into other plants. While this is problematic in itself, it is not the whole truth. Non-plant genes are also "inserted," including animal and bacterial genes. 2. You say farmers have been sued for saving GM seeds; basically, for breaking contract. What you omit: organic farmers have been sued for growing GM crops when they are obviously not under contract, simply because of cross-pollination and contamination of their crops. So not only does an organic farmer lose organic certification for the contamination, he or she is also sued for it! 3. The shotgun method IS still used. The whole process is utterly imprecise. But there is further imprecision - genes are combined without any regard to an organism's evolution and integrity. The introduction of a new gene may have the unintended consequence of making it vulnerable to conditions it was previously resistant to. 4. Again, your comparison between hybrids and GMOs. Totally disregards the history and the science. 5. You constantly claim that you use less fertilizer than you did before. This is disingenuous. Yes, less fertilizer may be used. GMOs combined with no-till methods may drastically reduce the need for fertilizer. But studies show that chemical pesticides, on the other hand, have drastically increased with the use of many GMOs. After all, GMOs such as RoundUp-Ready seeds are intended to maximize profits: spend for the seeds, then spend for the RoundUp. Just because you don't use certain pesticides doesn't mean that that's how other farmers operate. 6. Bt acts in a totally different way as a spray than it does as part of an organism, partly because GM Bt is in a different form from naturally occurring Bt. As an organism in a spray, it breaks down naturally over time and is activated only in the guts of susceptible organisms; therefore its effect on non-target organisms is minimized. Bt transgenics, on the other hand, HAVE been shown to harm non-target organisms and beneficial insects. 6a. Bt transgenics, you imply in your response to askantik, reduce dependence on pesticides. This is not true. Again, studies have shown that just as much insecticide is being used on Bt cotton as on pre-GMO cotton. I don't have the time to pull apart any more of your "argument," much of which is incoherent. All I ask is, learn when you're wrong. Spend some time reading instead of just spewing. Please.On Bill Gates reveals support for GMO ag posted 1 month, 1 week ago 44 Responses
- Again, foodprovider, read Uncertain Peril and find out just how baseless is the "science" of genetic modification. It is not a precise "insertion" of a new gene, for starters. Also, hybrids are utterly different from genetic modification. You're often mad that non-farmers are talking with authority about farming. Well, I figure as long as folks are well-informed, they have a right to talk about a subject. The key is being well-informed, which few people seem to be when it comes to GMOs. Those chemical companies/agri-industries did their job well. Please become informed before talking any more about GMOs, foodprovider.On Bill Gates reveals support for GMO ag posted 1 month, 1 week ago 44 Responses
- "Why can't GMO ag be part of the solution?" Well, first, because it doesn't work. The science is so flawed it shouldn't even be dignified with the name "science." Second, because it traps farmers even more in a cycle of debt. I recommend Claire Hope Cummings's book Uncertain Peril: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Seeds.On Bill Gates reveals support for GMO ag posted 1 month, 1 week ago 44 Responses
- Which is why you'd need a coop. Here in Vermont, a cooperative approach is making "cow power" a viable option. And here's hoping that dairy farm sizes are on the decline, and the number of family farms increases instead.On CAFOs: 'Above the Law' like Steven Seagal? posted 1 month, 1 week ago 4 Responses
- Well, as I lived in the UK for a year, and UHT milk was all I used, I don't think my impression of it was owed to bad samples. I drink unpasteurized, unhomogenized milk now that I live in Vermont, but even compared to the fresh milk you buy in the grocery store, UHT milk was awful. In FoodProvider's case, I think it's safe to say that if it was consumed more than two months before the expiration date, it was stable - it just tasted really, really bad.On Pollan shoots down organic myths at Grist event posted 1 month, 2 weeks ago 25 Responses
- Sounds like UHT (Ultra High Temperature) milk, which folks sell on grocery store shelves in the UK. Truly nasty stuff! I am so thankful to be able to buy milk directly from the dairy farmer up the hill!On Pollan shoots down organic myths at Grist event posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 25 Responses
- Funny. I live in a farming village, and I can tell you that it is almost impossible to get ahold of vegetable-farmer friends by phone or email this time of year. They're working 18-hour days planting their garlic and trying to get everything in - squash, root veggies, kale, etc. Yet Foodprovider's comments - delivered with the authority of the working farmer - are regular and unstinting, posted at times of the day when no farmer I know would be inside at his or her computer. Really makes me wonder . . .On Quick thoughts on the USDA's 'Know Your Farmer' program posted 2 months, 1 week ago 14 Responses
wind development
"It does little good to build a hydroelectric dam at the end of a dry canyon." Witty. But solar might work well there.
We need urban and suburban folks and businesses to use much less energy, and then to look for local ways of producing energy. Otherwise the rural poor get exploited once again.
"Ever wonder why lots of people don't live in the windiest places?" I live in a windy place, near where folks want to build a massive wind development. It's a beautiful place; tourism is a major part of our economy. It's quiet, too, which is another reason people want to live or vacation here. Oh, and 3/4 of our bat population is already gone thanks to white-nose syndrome. Pressure changes around massive wind turbines cause bats' internal organs to hemorrhage. So you'll understand why we may not want to ravage the view and the bat population further so that energy can be pumped to Boston and New York.
Not to mention a fact my fellow enviros never seem to mention: wind development on forested mountains means forests clear-cut, roads built, habitats eliminated or reduced, and migration patterns disrupted. It's not so simple as "harvesting energy where it's available."
More thought, please!
Kellyann
On What are the chances of passing a renewable electricity standard this year? posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago 4 ResponsesWind farms
I want so much for this county to embrace renewable energy, but the picture of the wind development in Grist's email really scares me. We need small, local energy sources, not large wind developments in rural areas where the energy is often exported to another state.
Ideas?
Kellyann
On What are the chances of passing a renewable electricity standard this year? posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago 4 ResponsesWow . . .
We're at least a month away from that here. But it's nice to dream! Thanks, Grist! :)On When the season's first edible weeds poke through, it's time for gumbo z'herbes posted 9 months ago 8 Responses
Human population loss
Just think about what reducing the human population means, bailsout. What climate change is already doing in Bangledesh, for example.
The human population is too large, but we need to address it by working on birth control and education, not by hoping for plagues and natural disasters.On Climate change risk underestimated: study posted 9 months ago 3 Responses
Dear Umbra,
We understand your position as advice-columnist. What some of us were upset about (re: the raw milk letter) was your ignoring the risks inherent in big-dairy operations and your tone when discussing pro-raw milk folks. The comment about their "zealotry" was unnecessary. One can protect oneself legally without necessarily kicking a group that's already down.On Umbra on composting tainted food posted 9 months, 3 weeks ago 7 Responses
The problem is . . .
Free-range, organic, locally-raised and -slaughtered chicken is available only to the few of us who a) raise our own chickens, or b) live rurally, near people who do. Food is not a hands-on thing for most Americans.
And that is what needs to change. Any bright ideas?On Cheap-chicken ad from KFC hides true cost of food; here's a tastier, low-cost alternative posted 9 months, 3 weeks ago 17 Responses
Soil
I had the same reaction - "Nope, not the soil, thanks!"
Pretty much everything else left me smiling.
Kellyann
On Obama references energy, climate challenges in inaugural address posted 10 months, 1 week ago 13 Responsesfriarslantern
What you said. This was the most disappointing Ask Umbra ever.
And I'd like to add that those who sound like "zealots" only do so because they are fighting against the massive agribusiness and its friend the FDA, whose viewpoints totally dominate the "conversation." See Wendell Berry, for example.
My husband and I drink cheap, raw, organic milk from a small, responsible dairy farmer. It's great, and we've had no problems, nor have any of the other people (including families with small children) who get milk from the same dairy. The state of Vermont recently passed a law (H616)making it easier for dairy farmers to sell raw milk, which makes small-scale organic dairy farming more sustainable within the local economy.
And there ARE health benefits to raw milk as well; large-scale tests haven't been done precisely because of the way the FDA and USDA marginalize small family farms. See www.ruralvermont.org for information about some of the tests done by independent scientists. There is also testimony from the H616 discussion. If you'd like in-depth explanations of the tests and hearings, Rural Vermont will provide hard copies of anything not linked to on the website. One thing I'll add here - the healthy bacteria (like those in your gut, which keep you healthy) in raw milk was found actually to IMPEDE the growth of harmful bacteria. If you add e. coli to raw milk, the healthy bacteria will fight against it and may even eliminate it; if you add e. coli to pasteurized milk, the e. coli stays and multiplies.
There is also a Dairy Bacterial Testing company in our area which will do on-site tests; perhaps there's one in your area, too!On Umbra on raw milk posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago 20 Responses
Burt's Res-Q Balm
I got this in my stocking this Christmas, and gave it a try, even though I usualy dislike Burt's for its heaviness and strong mint scent. The Res-Q Balm has a lavender scent instead, and goes on very light. It also doesn't make your lips shiny. I love it!On A review of natural and organic lip balms posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago 17 Responses
food for cars
I'm not convinced that giving one's money to agribusiness is a better choice than giving it to oil companies. They're symbiotic at best.
And thank you, sje333, for reminding us about the link between biodiesel and asthma!On Umbra on biodiesel vs. hybrids posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago 12 Responses
Iron and Bennington ware
Yes, iron is so easy I can't understand how Teflon ever caught on. And it doesn't take water to clean, which is even better for the environment. Also, for those of us who are vegetarian, it gives us much-needed iron supplements!
In terms of the reduce-reuse-recycle trinity, you can get old cast iron that's just as good as new, and cheaper. I got a skillet at an antique store this summer that was ridiculously cheap and had been refurbished and pre-seasoned.
As for baking dishes, I prefer Bennington Pottery ware. Not only is it tough and safe, it's also beautiful and distribues heat better than other bread pans or pie plates.On Umbra on green cookware posted 1 year, 1 month ago 12 Responses
Orlio
Orlio is another organic, Vermont craft-beer company. Their black lager is as close to the perfect fall/winter drink as I think it's possible to be.On A tasting of five fall-friendly organic dark brews posted 1 year, 1 month ago 4 Responses
Oh, dear God, no -
and that's all I can say.On FDA releases guidelines for developing genetically modified animals posted 1 year, 2 months ago 3 Responses
Garden of Eden
Thought by whom to be the location of the garden of Eden? Not by biblical scholars, who almost unanimously agree that the Garden of Eden story is a myth and that the place described is of cosmic, not geographical, significance. The four named rivers in the tale (one of which is completely unknown to us moderns) correspond to no geographical location.On Snippets from the news posted 1 year, 2 months ago 1 Response
Did you read the articles?
It's not only about the money and it's not only about the view.On N.Y. wind rush brings corruption complaints, divides rural communities posted 1 year, 3 months ago 6 Responses
For those who don't understand the anger . . .
. . . read the articles.
I already dislike wind power for its extreme landscape-altering abilties. This is not an aesthetic concern: I think that, once many landscapes are dominated by windfarms, they will be seen as more "ours," that the turbines will put a human stamp of ownership on the land. That is unacceptable to me. The last thing we need to do right now is to mark more of the land as dominated by human beings.
But there are other problems, too. Like the rural poor getting bribed into hosting turbines that harm their sleep and their health. Like poor rural communities becoming further devalued and disrupted by developers who only see the bottom line, who want to build lucrative power-exporting plants. Like the communities themselves selling out, and being left bitter and hopeless when they realize they can't renege.
Evidently, this is already happening.
I live in a relatively poor, rural farming community, and I can tell you, people leasing their land to wind developers and shutting down their farms WILL destroy a way of life.
People move to where I live for the tranquility, to learn to revive skills and crafts that have almost died out in the last 100 years, and to make art. Same as the areas discussed in these articles. Now people who've lived there for decades are moving away - they can't sleep because of the noise and the landscape is ruined by those big man-made turbines. I understand their anger.
This side of wind power is something that environmentalists must understand before they ask rural folks to sell out. On N.Y. wind rush brings corruption complaints, divides rural communities posted 1 year, 3 months ago 6 Responses
Crystal lasts longer than a year!
My husband and I both use the (same) crystal, and the one we're using has already lasted a year and is only half-gone. Pretty cost-effective!On Making a stink about green(ish) deodorants posted 1 year, 3 months ago 36 Responses
Eco-bags
are reusable, unbleached-cotton bags. They can be mashine-washed and last much longer than plastic bags. They're good for veggies, grains, beans, and nuts. Just not beets. Unless you want red-splotched eco-bags.On Umbra on storing produce posted 1 year, 4 months ago 15 Responses
Wait a second. . .
Didn't we already know this? Is this the second study to come out with this information?On Ocean acidification to weaken coral reefs, make islands more vulnerable to storms posted 1 year, 5 months ago 2 Responses
out of touch with the Real
What about the fact that the majority of video- and computer-game addicts are so absorbed in their games that they're rarely even aware of what's going on in the outside world (I have numerous family members who are, or have been, gaming addicts, so I know whereof I speak).
What about the lack of a personal connection with nature? As environmental educators have been saying over and over and over, you don't care about what you don't know, and you need to care in order to protect something.
Get yourselves and your kids outdoors and engaged in the real world!On Umbra on video games saving the world posted 1 year, 7 months ago 10 Responses
Farm-fresh milk
Yes, GreenEngineer, unfortunately there are restrictions in many states aganst selling farm-fresh, raw milk. Here in Vermont, where I live, and where dairy is a huge part of our economy, there are restrictions. But they're nothing compared to some states, where folks have been arrested and jailed for selling or buying raw milk.
Ironically, raw milk is better for you than pasteurized milk, and the healthy bacteria in such milk actually inhibit the growth of dangerous bacteria. And milk from clean, happy, well-kept cows is perfectly safe. See http://ruralvermont.org/food.html for more info, including some downloadable fact sheets.
Cheers!
Kellyann
On Thoughts on the NODPA/Stonyfield debate over organic dairy posted 1 year, 8 months ago 13 ResponsesPoor wolves
While not unexpected, this still breaks my heart. Partly it's the obscene delight ranchers seem to take killing these creatures.
And it's the number one reason why I am a vegetarian. Ranchers and wolves simply cannot peacefully coexist.On Gray wolves in northern Rocky Mountains lose endangered-species protections posted 1 year, 9 months ago 13 Responses
disappointing
What about the environmental cost of making those paper plates? Not just the trees cut to make the paper, but also the high environmental price of paper mills!
Or the spiritual cost of continuing to live a "disposable" life? Using paper plates does not contribute to one's development as an ecologically aware human being.
Nor does continually buying stuff - ceramic plates, dishwasher, paper plates . . .
As someone who's had to bathe in a 35-degree bathroom with a tiny amount of hot water, bring home buckets of water when our well was contaminated, and learned how to clean everything AND have enough drinking water with just those few buckets, I find this answer very disappointing.On Umbra on paper plates posted 1 year, 10 months ago 15 Responses
one more . . .
Upper Canada Soap makes great paraben-free, non-animal-tested lotions. They work VERY well (I live in Vermont, so I should know) and have nice, mild scents.On A review of six hand and body lotions posted 1 year, 10 months ago 16 Responses
reply to Hudson
Hudson, you seem to care about animals a lot, so I wantd to tell you that Neutrogena is one of the most notorious animal-testing companies.
And I second the recommendation for the cosmetic database.
Peace!On A review of six hand and body lotions posted 1 year, 10 months ago 16 Responses
Farmers' Diner . . .
Yes, the food is great. Now if only Mr. Murphy would hire some polite, intelligent staff.
Also, I'd add Deborah Madison, who made it so darn easy to cook vegetarian food, in season. She deserves a mention for that alone!On 15 Green Chefs posted 2 years, 4 months ago 25 Responses
re: Pope Benedict is Earth-friendly???
Exactly what I was going to say.
I think Sallie McFague should have gotten his spot in the top 15.On 15 Green Religious Leaders posted 2 years, 4 months ago 28 Responses
Simple garbage solution
My husband and I had a VERY green wedding a few years ago on a Vermont hill. One thing that troubled me was food waste, until a friend with pigs and chickens offered to take it all. We only had to ask our guests to sort food scraps into pig- and chicken-appropriate bins.
Obviously, not everyone lives in a place where this can be done. But if you do, you'll be left with almost no garbage!On Umbra on greening your wedding posted 2 years, 8 months ago 11 Responses
Bible passages for eco-awareness
Psalm 8 is a great resource, as it stresses human stewardship of the natural world. It should be read in Hebrew, or in a really good translation, because it's often rendered in a way that would seem to advocate human misuse of nature.
Jonah is good, too: it's a funny story, and full of animals. In it, God "ordains" a fish, a plant, and a worm; the animals of Nineveh repent along with the humans; and it is partly because of the animals that God wants to save Nineveh in the end!
Isaiah 40-55 is filled with images of God restoring the desert into a fertile place. Isaiah 42.17-20, for example, could be read as advocating responsible water use: "The poor and the needy/Seek water, and there is none;/Their tongue is parched with thirst./I the Lord will respond to them./I, the God of Israel, will not forsake them./I will open up streams on the bare hills . . . I will turn the desert into ponds . . ." (17-18)
Then, of course, there's all that stuff in the Torah about the land "vomiting" the people out if they don't let the earth rest . . . Maybe a little too graphic for a bat mitzvah program, though. :)On Umbra on eco-tips in event programs posted 2 years, 11 months ago 7 Responses