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What you describe certainly sound like a good plan of attack in helping small critters Caniscandida but unfortunately it will have to be a pleasant side affect later when we finish taking these criminals down. Their unconcern for animal life is certainly appalling but children are no more important to them and must have first priority.
I am glad that we are friends now and I wish I had gotten father along in my Arkansas stories before I found this site as my intensions would then have been obvious to all. Time .... I need more time but then doesn't everyone these days?
I'll try to update you guys when I get back on those stories as they are an integral part of understanding our situation as far government manipulation of the publics perception of important events.
As for the vegetarian issue I fully intend to be the most devout follower of that discipline and share a meal with you very soon. As a matter of fact .... everyone that reads these words will join us in that day when the Lion lays down with the Lamb and we all dine on the food prepared by God.
On Or, what I learned watching The King of Queens last night posted 2 years, 7 months ago 13 ResponsesThat my story and I'm sticking to it
Caniscandida. Here's a link to the story I promised you.On Or, what I learned watching The King of Queens last night posted 2 years, 7 months ago 13 Responses
Anything to make a buck
Aw shucks ... that's nothin. If you want to see some ground water pollution with a punch check this out. If you live close to one of these operations in Texas and drink well water you don't have to worry about buying halloween costumes for your kids because they'll glow in the dark.
Just stick a couple of antennae on their head and give them a ray gun so they'll resemble aliens. But to their credit the TCEQ is working on a solution. An exemption for the polluters. Ain't that grand? Even the thieves in Texas are the biggest in and state sponsored to boot.
The sad thing is that the Texas TCEQ is just like the Oklahoma Mafia and won't warn the surrounding citizens about this problem.
Why? Simple. This is oil country folks. Protect your local economy from law suits at all costs even if it means sacrificing a few kids.
But really .... the Texas negligence with the in situ uranium mining pales in comparison to what Oklahoma ...Texas ..... Kansas .... and most of the other oil producing states have done and continue to do to our aquifers today .... As we speak ..... and when I show the world about it and the damaged lives and property they will be like David Duncan says ....."Heart Broken for Life" it's incredible beyond belief. Far more devastating than Bush's bombing of the Iraqi water plants. And it's right here at home folks.
On Alabama's Bankhead forest next? posted 2 years, 7 months ago 2 ResponsesNot a problem Rod
Apology accepted and please accept mine for being snotty in my reply. I guess we're all sort of on edge these days with so much information at our finger tips and most of it bad. But it won't be that way much longer.
1 Corinthians 4:5
Hey I'm not sure what I said to make you think I didn't like Northerners caniscandida. I have so many friends from your neck of the woods that I couldn't even begin to count them.
I've never thought of them as not being my brother and sisters. Good customers to.
Good evening to you all. Mark@TH
On David James Duncan posted 2 years, 7 months ago 24 ResponsesNow I think I fit in maybe
It never crossed my mind and makes no matter to me anyway. The thing is no matter who we are or what passion we are devoted to I think in this environmental equation we have to lay aside our differences and pull together. Obviously you are very dedicated to your cause caniscandida and I admire that but ..... I see kids drinking poison here and politicians telling them everything's OK because they don't want to pay for their misdeeds.
The one whose eye is on the sparrow sees this much clearer than I and he still loves those that hurt children with such ease and disregard for life. This mystifies me but I know it's true and more importantly I know that he has ordained that we must be his body ... his hands and his feet and in order to correct the situation.
Someone must take the first step and even though I've used huntin boots and placed the second step square on political butts with no reserve at least I'm motivated. That's what we all have in common here .... That's what we all share and we should all find strength in that because if we don't ..... we will fail ... not a matter of if but when.As you guys know we live in the country and yesterday someone dumped a dog out near our house. This happens several times a year and so we try to care for them until we can find them new homes and such. This particular dog got adopted in my kids hearts right off and I knew my dog food bill was going up right away.
I just told them we probably needed a spare dog in case something happens to one the current residents anyway and if they could pick a name that I like we'll keep him. The dog himself does not understand that he's been saved. He does not understand that he now has what we call a bird's nest on the ground.
He still lowers his head and cowers when I step outside to show me that he knows he's not supposed to be here. So I try to stop and pet him and tell him that he just won the canine lotto but still it will take a while before he forgets that this is not his home as he understands it.When he finally accepts that I'll have a friend for life. Soon he'll find a job that he thinks is his. If you all know anything about dogs you know that most of them live to serve their masters so if you don't give them a job they'll find their own.
Coming here kind of makes me feel like him so I guess I'm a little touchy and I apologize for that. I think I have some important things to give and share so move over caniscandida .... I won't divorce my wife or stop eating at Bills catfish but I will respect your beliefs if you'll respect mine.
On David James Duncan posted 2 years, 7 months ago 24 ResponsesKey words Rod
It's all about key words. Here's a few you may want to work on. Facetious ......... satirical chicken humor ..... reading comprehension ....... and decaffeinated Coffee.
And while you're at it you may want to go back over this a time or two and see if anything jumps out at you. Gristmill posting rules.
1. Don't be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.
2. Try to avoid profanity. The English language is vast and magnificent.
3. Try to avoid profanity. The English language is vast and magnificent.
4. Do not direct personal attacks at a poster or fellow commenter. Substance, people. Substance.
5. Don't be a troll. (Troll: Commenter who makes outrageous or provocative statements purely in order to derail discussion.) You know who you are.
6. No spam, no solicitation, no links to porn, no internet detritus of similar ilk.
7. Seriously, don't be a jerk.
But seriously it's OK with me if you act like a jerk just don't tell caniscandida that your being mean to me. Apparently she didn't understand the post either and thinks I'm on her side now so she's off my back and onto yours. Guess she quit reading before she to the part about talking with a mouthful of fish. I hope you have your satellite laptop with you wherever your at David D. and enjoying this because you owe me a chicken dinner if you're ever in Oklahoma. Sheezh .... I'm going back to lurking now before caniscandida jumps on me again with the vertebrae stuff. She has me about ready to scream.
On David James Duncan posted 2 years, 7 months ago 24 ResponsesNow That's A Mouth Fool
I stand corrected. David James Duncan is a fish murderer and may very well be a follower of that great fisherman whose name we can't recall.
I have proof.
After a little research I've determined that David James Duncan only wants the dams on the snake river removed for personal selfish motives. You see the dams cause what is known as temperature impairment and cause the fish not to survive in these lower temperatures. If not for the temperature reduction problems getting the fish up river would be as simple as moving them up river manually. (in cousin bubbas pickup)This is all outlined here in an EPA document.
What made David James Duncan think we wouldn't find out?
Temperature impairment also promotes other unsavory occurrences
that stir up pollutants .... kill fish .... and generally wreak havoc with the eco system of rivers and streams.
It's painfully obvious to me that David James Duncan simply wants to save these fish so he can become a serial fish murderer and glutton to boot. I'll simply snub him if ever we meet him at Bills Catfish in Lone Grove Oklahoma where cousin bubba and I go every Saturday night. Thanks for the direction in life.ps
As you may have noticed in the EPAs 303d report the state of Oregon suffers from 930 rivers and streams which are temperature impaired. David James Duncan sure has his work cut out for him as a "River Keeper" and also as a fish carver. I may have to go help him get rid of some of the excess fish .... But I promise .... I won't talk to him while I do it .... I never talk with a mouth full of fish < that's the universe squared by the great fisherman.
On David James Duncan posted 2 years, 7 months ago 24 ResponsesFollow Me, and I will make you
I think we pick out heroes by who we are and our villains by who we aren't.
I grew up in the heart of the country that the song southern man focuses on but
my Father started teaching me racial equality and respect for others at an early age ... no matter what color their skin was. I think Neil Young personifies that philosophy and is willing to try and effect positive change in that direction at some costs to himself but .... I don't think he hates the haters I think he despises the hate .... makes a statement about where he stands and leaves you to take care in your approach to him.
David Duncan seems to me to be a person that loves nature and relates things to his love of freedom. He takes me on a trip to my past. My Father was a treasure hunter and we spent a lot of time outdoors in beautiful surroundings. He gave me some big adventures for a kid to wrap his mind around and dreams to store. When I hear David Duncan speak I don't hear braggadocios words but rather a person with a sense of who he is ... a dulcimer and a mountain ... a campfire in the past ... anyone can jump into the future but the past is hard to touch.
He seems to love to do that and it shows in his words. He try's to paint of picture about what he sees not in front of him but inside of him.
If his confidence sometimes seems a little blown out of proportion please be reminded that I don't choose timid heroes ... I don't admire those who carefully put one foot in front of the other but those who brazenly tell you what the good book says like Neil Young.
If he eats fish that's his business and none of ours. You won't stop fish eaters by beating them with your words. If you try to paint a picture of the reasons you are who you are you'll attract many more followers. Those are the people who change things for good in life ... leaders ...... not storm troopers.
Like that great man he spoke about ... who liked to eat fish with his friends.
What was his name again?
On David James Duncan posted 2 years, 7 months ago 24 ResponsesReminds me of Neil Young
I like David's style of writing to. He reminds me a lot of Neil Young.
Sort of progressive assumption. His thoughts to me kind of leap from one plateau to the next under the assumption you're still following because you're still reading. That's the way Neil Young is. Either you're with him or you're not. To me both also have the same style in this respect. Every word they speak to them is spiritual. Nothing done half way.
I read an article by Neil Young the other day and I was totally blown away. It seems Young and Duncan both have seen some grief in their days weather personal or impersonal. Young doesn't mind relating personal stuff and it seems kind of hard for either of them to relate it at all at once but much harder to leave anything out.
Of course I've loved Young's music all my life and was there in his heyday with the 8 track blaring Southern man so I could relate and tag along no problem. If you don't know the man and relate to his lifestyle it's harder to understand his words. Duncan on the other hand I've just now discovered since I didn't take time to read much until the internet made it sort of mandatory. I think I'll enjoy his work. I enjoy deep thinkers. No fun wading through shallow minds.
On David James Duncan posted 2 years, 7 months ago 24 ResponsesMy Position on Life
caniscandida
I'm sorry. I just did a google search on your user name and saw all the post about chicken farms you did. I realize now that you went to my site and thought that I was defending the Arkansas chicken industry. Not so. The ethics of animal farming is a complete separate issue and to tell the truth (and I apologize for this position) I don't have time to consider that at the present.
I will say this. When I was kid I liked to hunt a lot. Now that I'm grown I can't. I've really had to wrestle with some issues of my oldest son Zach who likes to hunt. I don't forbid him to but I've had several heart to hearts with him about the subject. The rest is personal and closed to discussion.
As for the chicken farm issue we raise cattle so I never really thought about it in that respect.
As for Arkansas and the Lake Tenkiller pollution I think you should take a closer look at where I'm going with that. I just posted in another segment of this board about MEOR
and all the health hazards and pollution associated with it. The pollution we have now is just the beginning ... the tip of the iceberg so to speak. With 2/3s of the oil reserves left MEOR is becoming the only way to fly.
Let me try to summarize the situation. Oklahoma has thousands of miles of rural water lines and hundreds of rural water systems piping contaminated water hither to yon. One story I'm finishing soon will better reveal the deception of our state government in this matter.
The reason we have impounded all these rivers to make lakes is because the oil companies have trashed our ground water in a way that is almost unbelievable. It's briefly described in the link above. The thing that I'm trying to get across to the lawyers and the poultry farmers and the American people is that Lake Tenkiller and the water quality is not what's at issue there.
What's at issue is a setup. A showcase for the future.
Our rivers and lakes and drinking water or full of pathogens .... Salt water .... BTEX chemicals ..... Radiation ...... and God knows what else because of our gluttony for oil.
The future only holds more of the same and the result is going to be more and more dead people and animals. As a rule you can't win a judgment for a dead cow or miscarriage of fetus but jury's do tend to be sympathetic to dead children.It's my belief that the Oil companies are using Mr. Drew Edmondson and Lake Tenkiller in order to develop a view screen for America portraying the farmers and ranchers as the culprits. Establishing a mind set for this thinking in America has already been accomplished to a large degree.
As an animal rights activist that may seem a good thing to you but as an American you should consider it an affront to freedom and the early warning signs of a totalitarian government in the making ... all done under the pretense of the greater good ........ energy.
That's the salve our state uses on it's own conscience.
Not a good thing at all I'm sure you'll agree.
If such is not the case then prove it to me. Just call Mr. Edmondson and ask him when plans to file suit against the oil companies for all the damage they've done to our people and our ground water.
Also all the people they've killed and all the cancer they've caused. If you'll get on our SDWIS site you'll realize that's its very hard to find a water system in Oklaohma that has ever passed a radiation test. The conglomeration travesty that the EPA calls "Variances and Exemptions" allows our Oklahoma government to feed this swill to our people with impunity.
All I can say right now is that I haven't had time to develop the Arkansas story line farther because of the need to spend so much time learning but when I do you'll see a whole different story. Not one .... I'm afraid ... that considers so much the life of a chicken but one that holds human life sacred and worthy of protection at all costs.Herding cattle for slaughter is one thing .... But herding people to the same should never be seen again under our sun. We saw enough of that at Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Auschwitz and Birkenau. Haven't we learned our lesson?
What I was trying to do with Arkansas was start a fight that might wake every one up .... I just didn't realize the control our government has over the media. I think if you'll look closely you'll see we have the same goals. Preservation of life.In a few days I'll make a special post for you. Something that really made me feel bad.
Something that gave me more cause to fight. If you'll watch you'll understand.
Once again I truly apologize for the misunderstanding.
On Biofuel facilities that use fossil fuels help no one, waste resources. posted 2 years, 7 months ago 21 ResponsesThanks Rob!
That's some pretty neat stuff. I especially like the geothermal oil well concept. If we can get the Oklahoma Mafia to quit polluting our aquifers we're saved.
Oklahoma has dilled over 450,000 oil wells and as far as I can tell not one abandoned well has ever been found to have been plugged as the law requires. That should save a bundle on opening them up for retooling. Thanks again, Mark H.
On John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry chat about their new environmental book posted 2 years, 7 months ago 20 ResponsesWell I Never!
Dear caniscandida
Please accept my apologies for a tardy reply but I've been tied up with kids and track meets and kids with flu .... a parents work is never done it seems. I also want to express my regret in the fact I did not recognize you as a Lady after reading your first post. I know you can't see me right now but I do have my Toby Keith hand me down cowboy hat removed as I type these words of apology.
And I would like to state as a matter of fact that I was so mistaken about your identity that I supposed you might indeed be mr Inhofe himself hurling taunts and jibes at me incognito as it were.
Your reference to voltiare reinforced that belief to almost a certainty as it's plain to the world that anyone who can do to our children and our environment what our Oklahoma law breakers have done .... must certainly have no fear of God before their eyes. That ..... I'm happy to report will soon be corrected in Oklahoma to begin with and then on a national level.
Until that time I can only hope that mr Inhofe would be so brave as to speak with me as I'm quite certain that I have many questions that he has no answer for. I'm going to step out on the water here and say that I belive I can get mr Inhofe much more flustered than Al Gore did as I'm not bound at all by the same gentlemanly constraints.
I'm afraid however that I'll have to wait until I see mr Inhofe in person and speak to him at his trial if I'm allowed to do so at that time. As for now I'll go ahead and bet you a thousand dollars against a hole in a donut that he won't dare to have a conversation with me as I'm quite certain mr Inhofe knows all about me and he also knows the fate that awaits.I have enjoyed our little tit for tat but I'm afraid I need to put you on my ignore list now as it seems to me that your potty words may be breaking the rules of the boards and I certainly don't want to encourage that in any way. You have a good life now ...... hear?
On Biofuel facilities that use fossil fuels help no one, waste resources. posted 2 years, 7 months ago 21 ResponsesOklahoma Bio-Fools
Thanks JMG. That looks like a good read. I'll check it out. I don't know if you guys are familiar with this are not but recently our governor bad henry proposed a bill to present an Oklahoma research center a $40,000,000.00 grant to study the development of refining techniques associated with converting switch grass into ethanol. http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/5419736.html
Talk about an exercise in stupidity. The only ranchers here who have land developed well enough to grow switch grass effectively are wheat pasture cattle growers. The cow market is good right now but if the rain doesn't hit right it's chicken one day and feathers the next. Rain doesn't care if you grow wheat pasture or switch grass .... when it rains it pours when it don't we're poor.
There just isn't the tools are the fools here for that non-sense. These guys are just money laundering and we pretty much know that because the research center is the Nobel Foundation ..... otherwise known as Nobel Drilling Corp and also Samedan Oil Corporation. http://www.nobleenergyinc.com/neiweb/history.htmThis whole bio-fuels thing is utter madness if you just stop and think about it. These guys are herding us like cattle and we're not smart enough figure it out.... we all know it doesn't make sense now and it's impossible to make the numbers work anyway you look at considering the staggering amount of fuel needed and the production capacity we have.
Where will grow food to feed the world if we plant switch grass and corn everywhere? Food commodities is what has kept our trade on an even keel up until now isn't it? ..... what will we do then .... Trade spare switch grass to make up energy shortfalls?
On Biofuel facilities that use fossil fuels help no one, waste resources. posted 2 years, 7 months ago 21 ResponsesI See What You Don't Mean
But I doubt that any of the other folks here in Oklahoma would. They think Voltaire is Extra community service to shorten your probation duration. God to them is real enough and even our hunting dogs are smart enough to know that you run for cover when it thunders although the lightning has already come and gone .... because you may be sharing a storm cellar with someone who believes in Voltaire and not God might just take exception to it.
On the other hand you and Voltaire would never fit in here anyway because you'd be too lonesome. People here don't hang with folks they can't understand and usually they just say ... what's that dude been rollin in his smoke and leave you talking to yourself.
Communication is the order of business here and even if we do sound like Larry the cable guy we're still smart enough know what God has to say on that subject and it's makes perfect sense to us .... if the trumpet makes and uncertain sound ... who will prepare himself to the battle? Does that make sense to you? Makes perfect sense to meee but of course I've never seen the inside of a box squared by light-years like God has. On Biofuel facilities that use fossil fuels help no one, waste resources. posted 2 years, 7 months ago 21 Responses
No Such Luck Friend
I'm not sure about coal but we're not running out of oil. We still have 2/3s left in the ground here in the USA but it's not the gravy train that it first was. It's the hard to reach oil down deep and most is being removed with the help of MEOR ... Microbial Enhanced Oil Recovery. http://www.obio.com/meor.htm
These are the little critters that are engineered to metabolize the oil and slick it up for easy greasy up and out and also to grow in solution channels in order to plug them for better pressurization of the rest of the formation. That's great if they stay where they were put ..... But .... in states like Oklahoma where oil money grows and salt water flows they have a tendency to go down our rivers and into our aquifers every now again. http://oaspub.epa.gov/tmdl/waters_list.control?state=OK&a ...
Then they go house hunting in our drinking water systems lines and develop into what's called biofilms http://www.edstrom.com/Resources.cfm?doc_id=23
And there they live to give ...... disease. These bacteria bio films are pretty much Nation Wide but the MEOR type are souped up versions that have and are becoming more and more immune to all the disinfectants and anti-biotics we can throw at them. (which are called biocides and are also killing us)
These SUPER GERMS are then piped directly into our hospitals because of the fact that our hospitals are not aware of the problem. http://www.okiespotlight.com/Print_This_Oklahoma.htm
That's why most hospitals have gone to the "Out Patient Treatment" whenever possible to prevent nasty staff infections which are running rampant in health care facilities.
Another un-benefit of MEOR in corrupt oil states is all the food they send down hole to feed these filthy little pathogens. The lunch they like to munch best are Nitrates which have a tendency to be already a serious contaminant in Oklahoma Aquifers thanks to your friendly neighborhood oil companies. http://www.okiespotlight.com/2002_Integrated_Report.htmThere are many other deleterious side effects encouraged by our fearless leader associated with MEOR http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:FQkMURwuab0J:www.fos ...
But the most devastating things are the thoughtless use of our ground water to buoy the oil to the surface. (oil floats on water you know) This creates a need to re-inject contaminated salt water injection fluids into fresh water aquifers through which the oil passes in order to keep fluid levels high. This of course eventually makes the water in the aquifers unfit for human consumption. Oklahoma is at this very threshold as we speak. That's why I've created this web site.
www.okiespotlight.comAs a footnote I would like to add that our current shortage of oil is actually a shortage of light sweet crude oil. But we do have plenty of "Sour Crude" http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2005/08/sweet_and_sou ...
but ..... what we don't have is enough refining capacity to remove sulfur from sour crude to Fed Regs. That's why everyone is crying that we need to build more refineries ....... So we can trash more aquifers with these bus and bug food.
So we still have plenty of oil left .... Don't let them fool you .... And plenty of other things that we could live without ...... but seem to be dieing to drink.
On When people ask silly questions posted 2 years, 7 months ago 5 ResponsesHow Did You Say To Saddle This Dinosaur?
I¡¦m with you at that. I¡¦m thinking the same thing.
Here are some other thoughts I¡¦ve had a time or two. I keep believing that someday I¡¦ll hear someone speaking intelligently about turning the billions of tons of trash we bury every day into something we can burn for fuel since we can¡¦t seem to talk people into recycling.
Couldn¡¦t we do that?
I mean it might not be the most cost effective source of alternative energy at first glance but as a bird killer it looks to get 3 or 4 with one stone so that has to count for something.#1 Free fuel for some power plant if subsidies account for processing costs.
#2 No more ground pollution to come back and haunt us as a Super Fund issue 50 years from now. (also plenty of emergency caches already on deposit :-)
#3 Consumers save a ton of money on garbage bills that they can spend in the market place and cities actually make money hauling off trash.
#4 If successful on a large scale we can stop rooting around in mother earth and destroying the foundation we call home for coal.
#5 Very low transportation costs from fuel source to market.
#6 I would think smaller more independent plants with less need for huge distribution system and hence less energy loss and that would definitely make for conservation.
As a citizen I would vote for all kinds of tax free stuff and subsidies to support that.That's all I can think of for right now. I know turning trash into treasure is not nearly as glorious as getting a multitude of corporate executives to lay down their bow and arrows and smoke the piece pipe ... and .... we would have to wear gloves and not pinky rings ... but I think it would work. But what do I know?
Didn't they laugh at the leap thinker that dreamed up Star Wars which eventually brought about the end of the cold war? Haven't we now decided that we have the ability to do that if we desire? I think I read in a book somewhere that man can do anything he sets his mind to do.
Seems to me that we need to quit polishing our business etiquette and start thinking about each other instead of how to outwit our financial selves. Maybe if we hired some good old fashioned slick talking con artists to convince the oil companies to invest in this
http://www.okiespotlight.com/audio/WaterFuel.wmv as a new energy industry before someone else does then they can save the hard to reach oil still down there as a retirement plan.After all it should take hundreds of year to get away from all the petroleum related products we now use that are low carbon generators. That is unless Captain Kirk jumps back in time and leaves a few replicators for reproduction.
I'm not very smart but it just seems to me most green types seem to be centered around finances and not futuristic thinking. It may be that everyone is hypnotized into believing that we're going to be designing new saddles for the same old dinosaur from now on.
It looks like these guys are really scared of their own shadows. I mean who's the competition? Wouldn't there be more gravy in getting water virtually free and turning it into money more or less?
Who could compete with the oil industry in that win, win, win endeavor? They already have the distribution system for the new hydrogen fuels ... the trained transportation specialists.... the refinery building expertise of unparalleled craftsmen to take us into a new green age with the profits largely going to them and them alone.What in the world are they scared of? Those guys are the real Chicken Little's and they can't seem to understand that. Go figure.
I'll tell you one thing that I know for postitive sure. If Pandora's box really did let evil into the world then it was because we didn't want to learn to think outside the box after we got here.
On John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry chat about their new environmental book posted 2 years, 7 months ago 20 ResponsesPart of something is worse than all of nothing
I remember when they first came out with those TV remotes with locating beepers. I believe what followed shortly thereafter was one of the first documented big foot sightings when a first time user found his controller in the hand of a Sashsquash standing behind his living room drapes.
So there's always a trade off .... good ideas that make life easier don't always make for good energy solutions .... But ..... there are usually plenty of revelation spin-offs that benefit us all in ways we couldn't imagine. To me the bottom line is when you have the goody from the Eskimo pie .... don't try to sell the wrapper as food to squeeze every nickel from an investment.Diversify your investments and plan for the future. Petroleum related energy products will not likely be completely phased out in this century but a drastic reduction is possible right now ... today ...... with technology we already have. The problem seems to me not one of subsidies and tax breaks but ethics and common sense issues. Looks like just plain old greed.
I came here looking to learn and I can see I'm in the right place. You guys seem to know your stuff and I know all these things have to be considered in the big economic picture but I have a question. Not one to start an argument just for my own personal enlightenment because I simply don't know if this statement is a true fact. I read this somewhere .... Can anyone verify it for me?
It takes 24.5 billion gallons of fossil fuel inputs to produce 35 billion gallons of ethanol to replace 23 billion gallons of gas.
If that statement is true .... it looks to me like those ethanol guys need all the subsidies they can get ... anywhere they can get them from ....... Or ...... ethanol production is simply a clever smoke screen to placate the masses and make us believe that we're trying to wean ourselves from our dependence on fossil fuels or in this case .... our greed. Any thoughts .... Any help? Thanks
On Biofuel facilities that use fossil fuels help no one, waste resources. posted 2 years, 7 months ago 21 ResponsesOne More Thing
I'm an Oklahoman who has been learning how to fight political corruption which allows unimaginable pollution of our ground water for about 9 or 10 months now.
I've had absolutely no help at all from a state government which is totally sold out to oil money. If you knew the right people to ask and they would tell you the truth you'd find out that I've had these people on the ropes and done more to change our situation from behind this keyboard then all the environmental activist with lawyers in tow have for the last 50 years.I've done it by research and educating people and as John Kerry says creating a grass roots movement because hey .... if the people don't move .... things don't happen. They have to be motivated with truth about what we've done and allowed to be done to our environment.
Anyone with a tug at their heart and an extra cup of coffee can make a difference one phone call at a time ... one email at a time multiplied X 10,000 really adds up.
When folks start seeing that they can make a difference like that then they begin to wake up and get green as you guys refer to it .... And that's what needs to happen.
Leave the rest to American ingenuity .... Leave the problems of the energy needs to the problem solvers but first ..... WAKE THEM UP ..... AND GET THEM GOING .... GET THEM INVOLVED .
...... The way I understand it our population is pretty much an over the hill gang and that's good because those guys have left their youth and ignorance behind them and they have the ability to see the what the future needs to hold.
They have the tools to create the needed changes.I've only recently taken time to look you green types up and read your thoughts. Boom here's the first problem I see with most of you.
Whether or not Al Gore gets solar panels and trades his Lexus for a bicycle will have absolutely 0 impact on our environment in itself. John & Teresa Hines Kerry being rich or poor will have no effect at all in solving our problems.
If they gave all their money away tomorrow for some type of environmental remediation it would only be a flash in the pan and no more.
What Teresa Kerry does have .... what John Kerry ... and Al Gore both have are good hearts and life's largely dedicated toward our planet but more importantly .... toward our people ... our youth ... and our future.
Anything more than that .... anything past a good heart .... to me is kind of like add on options that make the people who steer the good heart ... more comfortable in the journey.
It just means that they have more means at their disposal ........... more time to take the heart places that it can make a difference. If the vehicle they arrive in is without the good heart ....... then the journey is not truly a journey of the heart but simply a long weary road with no reward at the end.
So you have to ask yourself this question ..... why would they waste there time if their heart was not in their struggle?
Why bother? And if they let people who always look for fault take their money and try their hand ... what would they do? Where does their heart seem to be? If I can ever find a politician in Oklahoma who is willing to stand up and tell the truth and fight for justice I'll guarantee you the last thing I'll ever do is say one bad word much less slam him.
I guess I've gone a little past the two cents thing now ... but that's how I feel. It's not about money or how much of it anyone has ..... it's not about where you are in your green journey ...... it's about the fact that you are on the road with no looking back .... Gaining ground everyday. God speed to those people.
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On John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry chat about their new environmental book posted 2 years, 8 months ago 20 ResponsesMy 2 cents
I'm very proud to find another American with political roots that sounds like a stand up guy. I was beginning to think it was an extinct species. Bravo John & Teresa Kerry.
www.okiespotlight.com On John Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry chat about their new environmental book posted 2 years, 8 months ago 20 ResponsesInhofe makes he laugh to
Along with about 500 other Oklahoma politicians. Talk about a merry go round full of over the counter ignorance addicts these guys we have here in sooner land have to pay someone else to think up stupid ways to shoot themselves in the foot. Check out my crusader web site if you want to have a hoot at the expense of the drug store cowhands.
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jetflash On Even by his standards, this was pathetic posted 2 years, 8 months ago 38 Responses