Comments Gary Gifford has made

  • It won't have a 40 mile range

    Just like the 55/61 mpg the Prius was supposed to get...Try 44 in the real world.  Has anyone considered heating and air conditioning?  There's no waste heat off an electric motor. Cold mornings and windshield defrosting will require heating coils that will eat up a lot of electricity.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Is a 40-mile all-electric range too much? posted 1 year, 1 month ago 20 Responses
  • Practical Application

    This may not be the solution to our energy needs,  but its part of the solution and certainly more than just wishful thinking.  Here's an article about research into trying create an automobile alternator using heat from the exhaust.  Getting rid of the drag of a mechanical alternator would certainly save fuel.  Put it in a hybrid and this could be a source of free electricity.  Every little bit is a wedge...

    http://www.physorg.com/news131711988.html

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On The one clean-tech breakthrough that could lead to a core climate solution: Thermoelectricity posted 1 year, 2 months ago 10 Responses
  • As I stated in my original post....

    An excerpt (and main point) of my previous post that Sunflower was responding to:

    "Fossil fuel subsidies, especially those that effect large parts of state and congressional district economies, such as coal subsidies in largely coal producing regions, will need to be replaced with something that will convincingly make up for the subsidies.  Subsidies for solor, wind, geothermal or even subsidies totally unrelated to energy that are of equal economic value to the previous fossil subsidies of a region will be what is required to get the consensus needed to further the shift away from fossil fuels."

    I agree with all the things you say we need.  Sensible directed incremental solutions are the only things that the electorate will accept, especially when it effects them personally.  We should be promoting solutions that are feasible, not one's based on emotion.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On A solar grand plan posted 1 year, 9 months ago 29 Responses
  • Get real

    Sunflower

    I don't know where you live and it doesn't matter, but if voters face the prospect, or the PERCEIVED prospect of unemployment ( due to Coal Industry sponsored propaganda) or a significant disruption of their local economy, they will not support any politician who supports policies that do not support their cause, and, as a result, those politicians will not support policies that will cause their constituents to perceive that they will be unemployed or have their local economies disrupted.

    It's just simple politics.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On A solar grand plan posted 1 year, 9 months ago 29 Responses
  • Replace, don't end, subsidies

    It wont be politically feasible to simply eliminate fossil fuel subsidies.  Fossil fuel subsidies, especially those that effect large parts of state and congressional district economies, such as coal subsidies in largely coal producing regions, will need to be replaced with something that will convincingly make up for the subsidies.  Subsidies for solor, wind, geothermal or even subsidies totally unrelated to energy that are of equal economic value to the previous fossil subsidies of a region will be what is required to get the consensus needed to further the shift away from fossil fuels.

    What this could look like is a huge pork market.  What it should be presented as is a comprehensive renewable energy bill designed to soften economic losses of the most effected regions.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On A solar grand plan posted 1 year, 9 months ago 29 Responses
  • Contribute!


    Thanks for posting the link to Rice's site.   Andrew Rice is running against whacko denialist Senator Jim Inhofe of Oaklahoma.

    I just made a donation to Rice's campaign, and I don't live in Oaklahoma.  I encourage all Grist readers to do the same.  It may be the most effective "carbon offset" you can make.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Boxer vs Inhofe, round 2: The Rumble in Rayburn posted 2 years, 2 months ago 1 Response
  • use hybrid vehicles

    A much more reliable backup power system would be to run a DC/AC inverter on a Toyota Prius with its large 300 volt battery and allowing the engine to charge it as needed.  Yes, its fossil fueled, but how often are you really going to need it?

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On DIY renewable energy projects posted 2 years, 3 months ago 12 Responses
  • Exactly!

    The big problem with progressives (democrats) is that getting us to agree on anything is like herding cats.  The Republicans don't have this problem.  They are organized and support all conservative causes.  We shoot ourselves in the foot when we criticize democratic candidates and limit ourselves to our own progressive causes.

    Everyone here supports stronger environmental regulation, but we should also be supporting freedom of choice, the rights of ethnic minorities, universal health care, public education, unions and all of the other progressive causes out there.  When we unite, we become stronger.

    I caught the tail end of a former democratic political strategist on the tube the other day.  I didn't catch his name.  When he was asked by the interviewer who he liked as a democratic candidate, he said this:  "I like all of the Democrats and none of the Republicans".  That is the best response to that question that I have ever heard.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Good ideas, those posted 2 years, 3 months ago 9 Responses
  • A good start

    Getting a well respected and experienced Republican like Warner from a big coal state supporting a cap on carbon emissions is huge.  I would rather  there be something started along these lines that can be improved under a Democratic administration than nothing at all.  Bush and (hopefully) Inhofe will be gone in 18 months and if the infrastructure provided by this is in place by then it may be easier to raise the targets.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On But what will it look like? posted 2 years, 4 months ago 8 Responses
  • Money could be spent better...

    Its been said that only the rich buy offsets.  I believe a more accurate description of the offset purchasing demographic would be folks with some discretionary income who are really up on the climate change problem and concerned about it. (i.e. 100% of everyone on this site, but less than .2% of the general US population).  So it really is a small contribution to a huge problem.

    I myself offset my emissions. That is, the ones remaining after having purchased a Prius, a new fridge, changing out all my incandescents to CFLs and some other energy saving devices and changes in habits.

    I've also contributed to John Edwards campaign, Environmental Defense and others, and I can't help but think that if I took those dollars that I've put into offsets and put them into more PAC fundraising efforts that they would have more of an effect on the climate by way of improving our leadership in Washington.

    I'm only personally able to afford so much to improve our global situation, and I want to make sure my dollars are being put to their most effective use.  So I might just start offsetting my emissions by making more political contributions....  

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Many offset critics appear to be shadowboxing posted 2 years, 4 months ago 76 Responses
  • I'm tired...

    I read most of these comments.  In threads like this, folks should be required to provide at least a one sentence summation of the solution that they propose to whatever issue is being addressed if they wish to refute the arguement being made by the thread starter. I see a lot of well thought out bitchin and very little alternative solutions being offered.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On With the right rules in place, it could work posted 2 years, 5 months ago 115 Responses
  • Where's the pyrotechnics?

    For the finale, I was expecting a pyrotechnics display with a large Swastika rising up behind the band.  I'm kinda disappointed..

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Worst music video ever posted 2 years, 5 months ago 6 Responses
  • Most people still don't get it.

    Senator Kerry

    Most Americans (including politicians) are still unable to grasp the gravity of the climate crisis.  Its easier to tune out and worry about the social injustice surrounding Paris Hilton than it is to fight to save the planet and the human race.

    Al Gore has made great strides, however, there is still massive indifference among the general public about fixing the problem.  I see it everyday, and I live in the liberal SF Bay Area!  Where there is indifference and apathy with the masses, so shall there be with our government.

    I don't profess to have a solution, this is just an observation.

    I am enjoying your book.  Thank you for all you do.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On More intransigence on climate change posted 2 years, 5 months ago 38 Responses
  • Pretty cool

    I thought of this about 3 years ago and a scientist told me I was out of my mind.  There would be some energy lost via heat during compression, but the cooling on the flipside during operation could be harnesses to create the most awesome automotive air conditioner on the planet.  You could make popsicles in that thing.

    I wonder if the engine is designed to run in reverse and operate in a regenerative (compressing) mode during braking.

    In any case, whether compressed air or batteries, plug in hybrids are the wave of the future.  An internal stand alone liquid fueled generator or compressor designed to come on only when needed and able to operate at its most efficient speed is much more efficient than something that comes on more often and that has to respond to varying loads and speeds.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Compressed air, not hot air posted 2 years, 5 months ago 4 Responses
  • Somewhat convincing

    The basic arguement makes sense.  Its very simplistic and would be a good conversation starter with someone who's on the fence about doing the right thing about AGW, but beyond that, it doesn't provide many answers.

    Lots of trolls on that site....

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Some guy and a camera posted 2 years, 5 months ago 6 Responses
  • Kosher solution to nuclear waste?

    Check this out.  Apparently an Israeli company has figured out a way to turn nuclear waste into harmless glass by annihilating it with plasma.  At about 1/10th the cost of burying it and instant neutralization of radiation, it sounds too good to be true.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Nuclear power is too risky posted 2 years, 6 months ago 12 Responses
  • Priorities

    The problem of generating enough electricity cleanly is a much more difficult problem to solve than the bird issue.  I fully believe that an effective, low cost "bird deterrant" is just over the horizon that will solve this dilemma.  Build the windfarms.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On On a new McKibben editorial posted 2 years, 6 months ago 18 Responses
  • Pay at the pump influences habits

    Most Americans fuel by putting an atm or credit card in the pump, not by emptying out their wallet of all their spending cash.  This cushions the effect as the fuel expenses get lumped with groceries, movies, vacations, clothing and everything else we buy on credit.

    So the credit card is high this month  $4000 rather than the usual $3600 or so...oh yeah, we went to that bed a breakfast.  Or it must be the new TV and eating out a bit more.  

    Only in the longterm will people notice that its a bit harder to pay the bills.  Most Americans don't understand their finances and have no idea how to place a value on the hours they work and how to best spend the fruits of their labors to get the best value and most enjoyment/security from their earnings.

    Gas will need to hit at least $5 per gallon before folks really change their ways.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Do gas prices affect behavior or not? posted 2 years, 6 months ago 18 Responses
  • Lakoff

    I've read Lakoff and I completely agree...his ideas are an excellent place to start.  Another great book on political framing is "Take it Back" by Paul Begala and James Carville.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On A new study with intriguing conclusions posted 2 years, 6 months ago 10 Responses
  • Who is this jackass?

    I found this video on the computer model myth.  Does anyone know who the jackass at the end is?  I've seen him before, but I can't place it.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On New Scientist's troll-b-gone posted 2 years, 6 months ago 4 Responses
  • own worst enemies

    Those who feel a "carbon tax" is the best solution (like me!) shoot themselves in the foot every time they call it a "carbon tax".  I've posted on this before.  Just the notion of a "new tax" is a non starter and will never fly because after hearing "tax", most Americans wont even listen to the sensible explanations of "tax shifting" or "progressive tax".

    When proposing such a solution (or when bringing it up for that matter) proper framing is needed.  Start people in the right frame of mind.  "What we need is tax reform in this country.  We need immediate tax credits for all Americans and a system that makes polluters pay"  is just one example.

    Conservatives took hold of this country in the recent past due to skillful framing and the emotional appeal of their views.  

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On A new study with intriguing conclusions posted 2 years, 6 months ago 10 Responses
  • sun and CO2 to ethanol?

    This article is interesting.  It's either a scam, overly optimistic or the solution to all of our energy needs.  Sun and bottled CO2 into liquid fuel....what could be better?

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On It could be fantastic, but nobody's built any posted 2 years, 6 months ago 5 Responses
  • Better ways to save

    Yes, there are definitely better ways to save electricity.  Turning shit off (like lights) is the best.  CFLs and LED lights are the next best thing.  I plan to check the consumption of my fridge soon (doesn't matter right now because I can't afford a new one while still paying off the Prius!)

    My biggest sin is my computer which is on 24 7.  Its a flatscreen Mac, and with the screen on its dimmest setting it uses 60 watts and on standby about 40.  Modem, router and printer use about 10 watts on standby.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Unused mobile power adapters still use energy posted 2 years, 6 months ago 5 Responses
  • maybe not

    I checked my and my wife's chargers (different types) with a Kill a Watt meter with no phones plugged in and each showed energy usage of zero.  One charger is a Motorola and one an LG.  So this claim is either not true, or is true for only certain phones.

    In playing with my Kill a Watt meter I did learn something:  If an AC/DC transformer stays warm when the device is off it's using energy.  If it is cool, it's not.  The worst energy vampires are chargers for cordless products such as drill batteries, mini vacuums, etc.  13w for my drill charger, 4w for the dust buster....24 hrs a day.  Both are now unplugged.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Unused mobile power adapters still use energy posted 2 years, 6 months ago 5 Responses
  • You've got it backwards...

    Posted by Falsecast:

    Wasn't the government, in unholy alliance with the car manufacturers, the road builders, the developers, etc, etc, that gave us the interstate system, and the suburbs, and the suburban industrial park, and the commutes, and the strip malls, and the new developments, which led to the hollowing out of our urban centers and the paving of rural America? I agree completely with point that anything that is to be done ought to be done at the most local level possible, but I'm not sure that I would trust any level of government to reverse 60+ years of complicity in creating and promoting the car culture.

    No...it wasn't.  It was unrestrained capitalism that caused these things to occur. Blaming government "complicity" in causing urbal sprawl, gas guzzlers, etc. is a false arguement.  Government sets limits and regulations on these types of activities.  To remove government regulation would be to promote more of what you say is a bad thing.  To have a more effective government that does a better job at regulating these activities would bring about the policies that you desire.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Garret Keizer burns in anger about 'green capitalism' posted 2 years, 6 months ago 47 Responses
  • All hat, no cattle..

    I was initially enamoured with Obama's Kennedyesque style, but when I looked further, he really doesn't have many ideas.  He showed up to a democratic candidate's debate specifically on the subject of healthcare with no specific ideas about healthcare!

    All hat and no cattle.  I think Edwards has the best environmental ideas (next to Gore) of anyone running.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On That's what his support for CTL shows posted 2 years, 6 months ago 74 Responses
  • Yeah, right

    Pigs will fly before a President Newt is able to save the planet.  The problem is, most Americans actually believe that liberals are responsible for big government waste and anticapatalist policies (oil and agricultural subsidies, the war in Iraq...are you kidding?)

    The one glimmer of intelligence in the op ed is that Newt seems to be suggesting a revenue neutral carbon tax as a cornerstone to tax reform:

    Green Conservatism believes that we can realize more positive environmental outcomes faster by shifting tax code incentives and shifting market behavior than is possible from litigation and regulation.

    I'll believe it when I see it, however.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On It's not an alternative, it's a subset posted 2 years, 6 months ago 9 Responses
  • Awesome news

    I'm glad a policy maker has the balls to propose the Carbon tax.  Isn't he the one who was brave enough recently to admit to being an athiest as well?

    If this bill has any prayer of ever coming to fruition, we need to quit calling it a "Carbon Tax".  It needs to be framed not as a new tax but as a different way of paying taxes we are already paying.  Rewarding work and punishing polluters, and revenue neutrality need to be emphasized in talking points....And we must quit using the term "carbon tax".

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Could the unthinkable become thinked? posted 2 years, 6 months ago 2 Responses
  • On second thought, I have to agree

    You are a wise man.  We may have better luck just ignoring the deniers as we would trolls.

    Its funny.  Since Jaballo has no conscience and simply does this for money, he could be a paid blogger under different names for a whole host of causes.

    Denier of the link between tobacco and lung cancer, paid blogger for Hillary Clinton and John McCain at the same time, NAMBLA supporter, the list goes on and on.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Vote! posted 2 years, 7 months ago 96 Responses
  • Fewer than you think

    So why are there so many deniers on environmental blogs?  Doesn't this seem a bit counter intuitive?  I'm not interested in punk rock, and so you wont catch me on a punk rock site.  

    These deniers, who appear in Grist and other blogs EVERYDAY multiple times throughout the day are being paid to be there.  Their employers hope that their regular appearances will give the impression that the actual world population views of the realities of global warming with a skeptical eye.

    Engage them and refute them because the corporate greed that they represent wont go away.  This is the only way to maintain a true picture of what the worldview is.  

    If I were a religious man, I'd be sure that there was a special place in hell reserved for these bastards.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Vote! posted 2 years, 7 months ago 96 Responses
  • ARRRR!

    I am tired of hearing this arguement.  Someone or some environemental organization needs to do a big splashy press release about why this whole arguement is a complete fallacy and that CO2 following temperature rise is merely the result of a positive feedback scenario.  Get used to these; we are sure to face many, as the result of CO2, in the coming years!

    Godammit!! I'm tired of all the bullshit denialist crap out there that gets repeated over and over and over in mainstream media!!!!

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On CO2 rise lags temperature rise, redux posted 2 years, 7 months ago 15 Responses
  • Optimist

    Such end scenarios are not realistic.  Humanity will solve the issue.  I am an optimist.

    Tax it now with a revenue neutral tax, and vilify all carbon fuel.  A tax will make the marketplace work.  If it isn't doing what its supposed to in 3 years, get rid of the "neutral" part of the tax, and invest in alternatives.

    Pessimists will not save the planet.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Here's what we have to accomplish posted 2 years, 7 months ago 16 Responses
  • Let the Market choose

    Seems that the marketplace will decide what it wants.  Does the change not prohibit choclatiers from advertising: "chocolate made with pure cocoa butter"?

    Who cares?  Is this the what the FDA is spending their time on?  For Christ Sake, there are bigger FDA issues in the the world than this.  Maybe the FDA has too much time on its hands and should reallocate some personnel to solving some of the serious issues facing the nation and planet.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On ADM gets its filthy paws on an immaculate confection posted 2 years, 7 months ago 23 Responses
  • I'm hurt...

    I tried to sign up as a 42 yr old college graduate, but there was no category.  I guess it's time to crawl off and die...

    This is a great idea.  I hope folks would ask a response question to candidates about their position on a carbon tax. (and basically all of Al's 10 point plan).  Cap and trade seems to be taking root, but I really think  a carbon tax is the more pragmatic and sensible approach.

    I really hope Al decides to run.  

    The guys at the  Carbon Tax Center at www.carbontax.org  have the right idea with regards to some serious policy discussion.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Students ask candidates the tough questions posted 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Responses
  • It is simple...yes

    We don't agree.  The idea of credits only applies to a sequestration scenario, because this is the only scenario that fossil fuels could be burned and not emit significant amounts of CO2.  The measurements that would be needed would only be how much CO2 is estimated to have been sequestered from a given amount of coal burned.  We know how much that coal was taxed, so we simply times the amount by the price by the percentage of co2 taxed to determine the credit.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Because shopping shouldn't require matrix algebra posted 2 years, 7 months ago 9 Responses
  • It is simple...

    Without a credit to a power-company for installing carbon-sequestration technology, there would be no incentive to install such technologies.

    The power company doesn't neet a credit to invest in green energy or carbon sequestration.  The market will take care of that.  Say I, as a consumer, am tired of paying $.37 per KWH to my utility for electricity.

    Due to the taxes, it now will actually save me money if I install solar panels on my roof.  

    As a private investor, I can invest in a new CGCS plant, and this would be a good investment, as the plant operators would have tax revenues (credits) returned to them for the coal they used, thus making the plant more profitable.

    Or as a small operator I could expand my windfarm and make a bigger profit than before, because of the high wholesale price of electricity due to the taxes.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Because shopping shouldn't require matrix algebra posted 2 years, 7 months ago 9 Responses
  • Perfect analysis

    That is the best summation of ANY issue that I have read in a long time.  

    Forget credits; the leakage, bureaucracy, corruption, political favors and underpricing in the EU have made the cap and trade system a dismal failure.  

    Carbon taxation at the well head (or tanker, or coal mine, or natual gas head) is the way to go.  Reducing payroll taxes and supplanting the lost tax revenue through taxes paid via higher prices for a fossil fuel intensive lifestyle is a true market based system for encouraging conservation.  

    I love this site:   carbontax.org

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Because shopping shouldn't require matrix algebra posted 2 years, 7 months ago 9 Responses
  • Plug ins are the solution

    A plug in hybrid also can provide a backup source of household electricity, as well as a source during ourdoor activities such as camping.

    Chargers in cars could be programmed to charge only during off peak hours to make the full use of clean off peak energy.  

    Parking lots operated by employers or public agencies could contract with small solar energy providers who provide credit card operated charging stations in each stall for recharging during the day.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On A cool video posted 2 years, 7 months ago 21 Responses
  • Where's the opposition???

    A couple of weeks ago, I spent about an hour on line trying to find a challenger to Inhofe in ANY party.  There isn't one yet.  When he or she surfaces, there will be a nice donation coming from me.  And I live in California.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes posted 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Responses
  • Methane missing

    The issue of methane reductions via livestock was conspicuously absent in the presentation.  Its my understanding that ruminants produce huge amounts of methane and that even minor reductions through the use of food additives/enzymes would have a huge net greenhouse gas emissions reduction.

    Anyone here more up to speed on this than I?

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On For today anyway! posted 2 years, 8 months ago 6 Responses
  • Maybe not Alarmist enough..

    MarioG and other skeptics

    I think you skepticism has been fueled by the "Swindle" "documentary".  Its full of misrepresentations and statements taken out of context.  

    Just one example:  Global temperatures followed sun spots more closely than CO2 concentrations.  This is true...until 1980  when the temperatures veered upward and sunspot activity plummeted.  This fact is conveniently ommitted from the film.

    Much discussion was also devoted to scientific censorship and arm twisting in favor of a consensus statement within the IPCC.  There was actually much more of a push in favor of a MORE CONSERVATIVE position about climate than many of the scientists believed.  I.e. many of the scientists on the panel believed that the consequences of AGW would occur sooner and be more catastrophic than the latest report indicated.

    These points among others refuting skeptical points of view occupy merely the introduction of a newly published book entitled "With Speed and Violence-Why Scientists fear Tipping Points in Climate Change" by Fred Pearce.  The remainder of the book discusses positive GW feedback scenarios, many of which were not even included in the models used as a basis for the IPCC reports.

    This work should scare shitless anyone who lives on this planet and is highly recommended reading for skeptics.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Come on, Drudge. You can do better posted 2 years, 8 months ago 15 Responses
  • Not overstating, but Selling

    The disagreements among legitimate scientists in the area of anthropogenic global warming are ones of degrees.  How much is man contributing? How much is nature contributing? When will the sea levels rise and will it be 2 feet or 20 feet?  Will catastrophic effects be seen in 10 years or 150 years?  The legitimate scientists out there all have disagreements among each other on the details.  There is very little disagreement about the big picture among legitimate scientists:  

    Global Warming is caused by human activity, the effects will be catastrophic, and mankind may be able to stave off the most catastrophic of these effects if we act now to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    There has been some "hype" regarding the Global Warming issue.  This does not make the facts of the "big picture" untrue.  Most people will not be  swayed by facts and science alone.  They need an emotional appeal.  As George Bush used "fear of terrorism" as a main theme of the 2004 election, Al Gore and others  appeal to the future of species, our children and the planet as a whole.  These are the tactics of successful politicians.  It will be politicians, not scientists, who are able to bring about change among the populations of the world.  

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On Tedious posted 2 years, 8 months ago 11 Responses
  • But Deniers persist...

    I used to blog on the Accuweather site until I did a bit of calculation and determined that it was made up of about 50% AGW deniers...So now I'm here.  I'm pretty sure there's a group of paid bloggers flooding that site.  If anyone has the time, they could use some help.  I've had enough.

    Cheers, Gary Gifford

    On An international poll points to a window of opportunity for U.S. leadership. posted 2 years, 8 months ago 9 Responses
  • Sequester Requester

    I think sequestration is just a deperate attempt by Big Coal to continue operations.  These are the problems I have with sequestration:

    1.  Wherever you bury it, there is no guarantee it will stay there forever.  After going to the big expense of gasification and sequestration, and it leaks, you are right back where you started.  Coal in the ground is safely sequestered CO2.  Leave it there!

    2.  When the gas leaks, it will not be apparent.  It will be in the form of seepage...seepage with no wind  will kill wildlife and livestock,  seepage into basements or valley communities:  death by suffocation.

    Sequestration is a stopgap measure that should be abandoned.  I would be more comfortable with nuclear fission plants that have waste reprocessing facilities along with more solar and wind.  Hydrogen for storage.  Efficiency to reduce demand.On Sequester Requester posted 2 years, 8 months ago 1 Response