Comments JohnCaley has made

  • Wood Fires

    Thumbs down for usefulness, thumbs up for innovation.

    If we have to metabolise the Earth to gain transient energy then this planet will fail.

    Electricity generated from non-biological methods is the key to a sustainable future, both in industry and in transport, and domestic.

    The  electrical solution is the dream solution, all the rest are tangents and even though praiseworthy they are but distractions.

    All distractions must be ignored and the focus should be fair and square on electricity.

    It is possible, and the supply of salt is not biological and totally recyclable while leaving no footprint.

    Until this is realised this planet is playing games. On New company says it can make better, cheaper biofuels posted 2 years, 4 months ago 40 Responses

  • Nice Logic

    and I expect quite possible.  Continuous culture excreting fatty acids. Then crack the fatty acids. Someone is thinking.

    That would solve the "transportation fuels".

    Next of course is electricity storage and generation.On New company says it can make better, cheaper biofuels posted 2 years, 4 months ago 40 Responses

  • End World Now ! ! !

    Want the world to end, quickly ?

    Stop using coal.

    I wish y'all knew science. Because y'all have no understanding of science I waste my fingers.

    omegafour.com

    Yes, by all means stop using coal after the world's climate is back under control (after the truth is accepted and acted upon), then use salt for energy production and storage.  No ecological footprint.

    But the surest way to bring an end to civilisation, then life on Earth in the very near future is to reduce the heat capacity of the atmosphere.On Yeah, coal again posted 2 years, 4 months ago 11 Responses

  • FantasyLand

    A quarter of adult New Yorkers have elevated blood mercury levels, according to survey results released today by the Health Department.

    Among women 20-49 years old in New York City, the average blood mercury level is 2.64 µg/L (micrograms per liter), three times that of similarly-aged women nationally (0.83 µg/L).

    -- Approximately one quarter of New York City women in this age group have a blood mercury level at or above 5 µg/L, the New York State reportable level.

    This is after the fact... you have cleaned up your act.. and of course more needs to be done... worldwide.

    But women produce babies.  The findings above are NOW, and not 50 or 100 years ago, when resident levels of mercury would have been much higher.

    Mercury is genotoxic, bad genetics in father and mother. So babies get a load... and their neurons are corrupted... and they grow into adults.

    YOU today.  

    Unfortunately the degradation of the genetic line has been going on for a LONG time, maybe four generations.... each progressively more inaware of reality.

    FANTASYLAND, whoo hooo.

    omegafour.comOn Enemies of the human race posted 2 years, 4 months ago 1 Response

  • Great News NOT

    >> "since the best measures to stop global warming are politically unpopular, it's obvious that environmentalists are all frauds and we shouldn't do anything to stop global warming." >>>

    Yes y'all are frauds, on ALL SIDES

    Why ? because y'all hate to open your minds and explore reality. Y'all know don't you

    Why? because some idiot told you so.

    Its obvious that NOBODY will do anything to stop the demise of this planet's life forms.

    S O S

    omegafour.comOn He thinks we're too shallow to beat global warming posted 2 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses

  • No Credibility

    Sorry, but Dr Hansen should know better.

    He has destroyed his credibility.
    I suspect he is a Nuclear Power stooge.
    omegafour.comOn Yeah, coal again posted 2 years, 4 months ago 11 Responses

  • Salt it Away

    The future of energy production is in salt for  storage and local generation of electricity; maybe processed as the primary product of solar furnaces.

    For cars, the answer lies in hydrogen oxides.

    The no footprint hand of future science.  Old science has had its time to find solutions and they were not found, so why expect to find solutions now in old science.

    A radical change in attitude must be engendered if there is to be a future for Earth.

    omegafour.comOn Hillary pays tribute to Iowa politics posted 2 years, 4 months ago 23 Responses

  • Buy Buy But..

    >> Prophesies of a new wave of coal-fired generation have vaporized,  >>

    Gloat all you want to.. smile, ...might as well

    Freezing to death with a frown on your face is not a good look.

    I would be buying coal stocks....... LOL
    but I wouldn't be here to see them go through the roof when the BigOil swindle is totally exposed; and what value is money at the end of the world?

    Y'all are going to cause the depression feared from greenhouse gas panic.... but worse

    extreme cold is rather unpleasant without water and greenhouse gases.
    On In which I rejoice posted 2 years, 4 months ago 3 Responses

  • PS

    from link

    >> eliminating millions of dollars in mercury-related fines  >>

    I almost missed this very worthwhile motive for removing atmospheric mercury emissions.

    >> This does not include mercury that is "lost" and not monitored at the plant, an amount estimated to rival releases from power plants in certain years.  >>

    Aren't these guys just so thoughtful.  

    Truly I weep with despair.

    omegafour.comOn New study reveals chlorine plants could actually make money by switching to mercury-free technology posted 2 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses

  • Game Over

    A mist of mercury vapour hangs over the USA and many other places in the world.  Even today.  And more importantly for YOU, it has been there for your entire lifetime.

    Have you had your quota... err the kids? Passed on from parent to offspring.

    Y'all would destroy your brain, mental capacity, personality, attitude to life and each other
    AND THE WORLD

    just for a few bucks more.

    I really suggest y'all acquaint yourselves with the literature on neurotoxic, genotoxic and cytotoxic mercury metal/mental poisoning.

    (Oh, BTW, mercury is a bit player in the mental destruction game)

    Forgive them for they know not what they play with...

    The population of the world in a majority of places are toxic... and their minds and therefore their actions are toxic.

    THIS IS SERIOUS.  

    Global Climate Change Denial (or BigOil obstructionism) is just a symptom. Violence and intolerance and ME FIRST are just symptoms of an aberrant mental state.

    All your jailed prisoners are toxic to the eyeballs... their actions are very predictable, and tragic for them.  And tragic for all of us.
    (even more tragic for poison-free people living in a poisoned world)

    Y'all are destroying my world.

    A concerned scientist.

    omegafour.comOn New study reveals chlorine plants could actually make money by switching to mercury-free technology posted 2 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses

  • Ignore Me At Your Peril

    >>  "playing climate change poker,"  >>

    No way.  The game is more like Russian Roulette and all the chambers are loaded.

    Whatever you do to solve the Carbon Dioxide problem will have NO, zero, zilch, remedial effect.

    Reducing the heat capacity of the atmosphere by removing the carbon dioxide overpressure will make climatic matters even worse.....and hasten the inevitable demise of life on earth.

    No one is listening,,, LOL, well I shall wait, I will be alright Jack; sometime very soon the whole world will be screaming and crying.  Don't say I have not warned y'all.  Ignore me at your peril.

    omegafour.comOn Ante up posted 2 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses

  • Oil Stooge

    This site is an oil stooge.On This week's coal-sucks update posted 2 years, 4 months ago 22 Responses

  • Reality Check Point !

    >>  It is not even established for our environment that we [should] deprive ourselves of gasoline >>

    you MUST stop using oil.  Oil should be banned, and the oil companies should be made to clean the oil layer off the micro-layer of the world's oceans.

    >>  So even if it were someday to be shown to have some small effect on the environment, I see no crime. >>

    this guy is either totally insane or totally ignorant.

    Most likely both.
    It is easily shown by reality (something the USA is short on in this the final days) that oil on water inhibits water evaporation, and hence stifles rainfall. Drought and much much worse follows.

    The crime could well be the EXTINCTION of life on Earth

    and for those that need it spelt out

    EXTINCTION OF HUMANKIND

    It oil worth it ?  Are you up to facing reality ?

    omegafour.comOn Here's wishing you plentiful petroleum posted 2 years, 4 months ago 4 Responses

  • Weather and Climate ?

    .>>all the flooding that's been happening in Texas and Oklahoma, as well as Bangladesh, Australia, China, Afghanistan, England. >>

    A flash in the pan for a very small part of Australia's coast.... won't see that again for a long time.

    The Northern Hemisphere is a different case.  Occasional deluges will happen due to evaporated ice water melt, but in my analysis, there will be little real (record) flooding.

    Look to the records of the last flood of equal magnitude in an area; it is still within a recent time frame, so nothing unusual.

    What is becoming unusual is the persistent clear sky weather and general lack of rain.  The vegetation attests to the general dryness.

    NOTE: local weather is not world climate.  To confuse the two is just misleading the readership.On Literally posted 2 years, 4 months ago 6 Responses

  • No Freaky Weather

    Wonder why anyone would think that

    >> Will we suddenly get 12 feet of snow in a few storms this winter?  I wouldn't be surprised. >>

    It will never happen.  This world is going into worldwide drought.

    Cold at night hot during the day, and yep, frost, and fire.

    Nothing unusual, it will be desert weather day in day out.

    Oh, the occasional rain storm as hot air meets the cold of dry air.

    Oh, and plenty of tornedos across the partched lands.

    Nothing to do with global warming, but a lot to do with an oiled sea surface.

    Seems that y'all are just going to have the theories dumped by time, before anyone here will understand the science or even look to the evidence.

    I wonder why y'all do not want to look ?

    omegafour.comOn Global warming cancels 4th of July celebrations posted 2 years, 4 months ago 28 Responses

  • Will you survive ?

    LOL, sometimes I feel like that.

    The MOST important information, analysis and conclusion for the future of humanity, and in effect I am actively blocked on all fronts.

    Denial and disbelief are the two front runners... unfortunately as each day goes by the prognosis for the world grows dimmer.... and still no one really cares enough to open their minds.

    Oh well, to each their own fate.... and in this case it will be one of their own choosing.

    Don't ever come back to me and say that
    "I did not say it long and loud enough for deaf people"

    omegafour.comOn Grist in NYT posted 2 years, 5 months ago 7 Responses

  • Much more to come

    World drought is coming, local droughts are increasing

    and much worse than local or worldwide drought is very rapidly approaching.  CO2 ? Bah!

    And when I mean drought, well, like NEVER before.

    omegafour.comOn Global warming cancels 4th of July celebrations posted 2 years, 5 months ago 28 Responses

  • Points Well Put and Taken

    Ok, all suggestions taken on board.

    I have been following a spiral education course on Gristmill, where concepts are introduced at a low level and slowly made more concrete as time goes on.

    Unfortunately this mode of education presupposes that all the posts I make are read by all people.
    It also presupposes that readers are familiar with the articles posted at my website.  Sadly I have a life, so I can not play carer.

    As you have correctly observed, "a chip in the eye" is not a good look, but if you had followed the progression I have been following, I was greeted with disdain, disbelief, even hostile ad hominen attacks and the "of course" we here know the lot, its all over the web so who are you, attitude was blatant.

    A hard line to breakthrough.  This is not an isolated Gristmill problem, I encounter unbelievable resistance all over the net.  There are very powerful forces that do not want Big Oil made liable.

    I have nothing to do with Planktos, and IMO Planktos is doing the right thing, but it really does not know why.  The CO2 motivation is a dead end, but the seeding of the marine micro-layer may just be a solution to the oil slick problem.  It is the solution I proposed in my novel.

    I intend (if possible) to communicate with Planktos and add some suggestions.

    Unfortunately the petroleum oil slick forcing climate change may well be intractable, especially now that synthetic oils are produced. These are designed to strongly resist oxidation and microbial attack.

    Unless the whole world comes on board, the game is lost.

    I think to discuss oil slicks post-by-post with a group that have no access to oil slick data is more than difficult.  This is made even more difficult because the slick is under 1mu in thickness so it is basically invisible... maybe a slight silver sheen is seen on the ocean surface.  However the presence of the oil slick is well documented in peer reviewed publications. It is common knowledge amongst marine micro-layer biologists, and I expect oil companies, and of course NASA has studied these slicks..... as well as the coast guard and so on .....

    As for FAQs, I do think if people do not read the articles I have compiled, then FAQ responses will also not be read.  Maybe I may still be writing individual responses right up until the last day.

    I do intend on my site to highlight an explanatory line of posts in a thread that would  appeal to the general public.  But really I think it is all self-explanatory, otherwise I would not have included the articles in the compilation.  

    The compilation at present unfolds in time (over many years), so as you suggested there is a need to tidy it up to make a case.

    Just let it be said, that the ultimate outcome of the ubiquitous marine micro-layer oil slick will be
    first, world drought, with all the trimmings
    then an Ice Age like none before it.  Very rapid changes.

    So people who think they can profit by hiding facts will also be frozen solid.

    I can not stress that action needs to be taken NOW, and Planktos seems to be the only one stepping up to the plate to have a go.

    They may just be a solution even if for the wrong reasons.On In an op-ed, Russ George claims his company has been unfairly maligned posted 2 years, 5 months ago 29 Responses

  • Lead ?

    >>  Are we so scared of this challenge that we cannot lead?  >>

    Cannot even discuss in an open and honest manner.
    IMO, anyone who knows the truth is scared, like really scared.

    Shouldn't y'all be concerned ?  There is well documented corporate misinformation in the climate change debate, so just what is the truth when discussion is censured.  

    And ask yourself why is there disinformation and misinformation and deliberate lies to hide the truth ?

    Brave New World of lies and deceit, at a most critical time in history.  Is this the Roman Empire on the verge of total collapse ?   On An editorial in the NYT posted 2 years, 5 months ago 10 Responses

  • Nothing is on the Table

    There is nothing on the table that is suitable for a sustainable future.

    All energy sources must leave NO FOOTPRINT

    A simple criteria, but it seems to be a difficult principle for people to understand.

    There are NO FOOTPRINT solutions to energy production and storage, both in power and transport.On A guest column from K.C. Golden posted 2 years, 5 months ago 28 Responses

  • Good Arguments ?

    I have a site full of good arguments for ... yes, not what you want to hear !!!

    I suggest you digest my site's data or you read my book "The Death of Clouds".

    Unfortunately reading omegafour.com may not leave you convinced; Why? because it contains a compilation of relevant scientific data/articles, some I have appended comments.

    BUT all the entries are written in scientific language, so the impressions you may gain on reading may not be accurate, so there is a real danger in reading the data without an interpretor.

    (compare to reading a legal document, and then telling a lawyer what you THINK it all means...
    ! what it does mean and what you think can be fatally different)

    My book lays it out within hard science fiction storyline, a novel even children can understand ..

    It explores the reasons, both for human inertia and the naturally unfolding sequence of consequence, the inertia of the climatic system, the data, the prognosis, the future scenario, the solution and the most probable future outcome.

    The Gristmil blog is entirely unsuitable to reproduce data, and even to deeply discuss a scientific issue.  This is a "now" forum, topics rush through with no respect for importance of length of discussion.

    You do realise I can not reproduce here the library of scientific thought that underpins the whole surface logic.

    All I can do is alert y'all, give you access to reputable scientific data, and access to a layman friendly compilation of the science and implications.  And I am here to answer questions and be interrogated.  That is all I can do via the Internet.

    Of course I am not interested in the carbon dioxide overpressure.... My interest is in the oil slick on the sea.  However Planktos' activities will somewhat help both, CO2 and the oil slick thickness.

    Unfortunately the problem is far greater than I have implied, and in truth there may be no way out of this climate change problem.  Extinction is almost certain.

    There certainly is no way out via people running in circles and dumping their misconceived criticisms.

    Keep that up if you don't want to know, but shoot me first, go right ahead.  ... but don't you ever think of the children.  Its called the future!!

    The fatal climatic changes WILL occur in YOUR lifetime.  No one seems to realise how little time there is left, that is if there is any time left.

    This is my opinion as a scientist.  The evidence is there, the science is there, the logic is there , all we need now is people power to affect change.  We must all stand and shout!

    Join S O S.... and throw your weight around.  There are many who do not want the future to be squandered and some of us actually like the biosphere we live in.On In an op-ed, Russ George claims his company has been unfairly maligned posted 2 years, 5 months ago 29 Responses

  • I know How it Feels George

    >>  Amongst the de rigeur nutters, there are many intelligent people also questioning this scheme  >>

    People who just open their mouths, will prevent remediation.... forever.  

    This world does not have any choices.

    One does get very tired of mindless and destructive criticism.  Hey, it is so easy to be a doubter, or a groupie.  It is so much harder (almost impossible in this age) to stand upon your own two feet and actually understand and add to a discussion.

    Once more around the merry-go-round of mindless rubbish, meanwhile our world drifts aimlessly towards death.On In an op-ed, Russ George claims his company has been unfairly maligned posted 2 years, 5 months ago 29 Responses

  • David Roberts

    I would rather be myself rather than hide.

    I don't seem to be able to get it through to people just how serious this climatic situation is.

    Dr J Hansen, the IPCC and most climatologists think global climate change is very serious.  What is happening is serious, that is no debate.  The debate is about the cause.  It is very unscientific to hold a case so dear that discussion is censured.

    However there are serious climatic disrupters that have been observed that have not been addressed in any reports I have read.

    All I ask is to be able to present my case for a concern so serious that I must be forthright.

    Unfortunately I am a scientist and with that comes my totally different way of thinking, and in some cases I hold a fatal assumption that y'all know the deep knowledge that a student of science holds.

    I am not asking you to trust me, I am asking that the evidence can be presented for open perusal.  I would not normally be so passionate about the demise of the human race, but I really must.

    So please forgive me for being what I am, I only mean good, I am not a stooge, nor a puppet nor a troll, just a concerned scientist.
      On Vote! posted 2 years, 5 months ago 96 Responses

  • Micro-Layer Collapse


    >> Far from harming marine life, George says, the plans of iron enrichment will actually revitalize phytoplankton, whose numbers have been steadily dropping over the last couple decades, as was reported in a Dec. 7 paper in the journal Nature.

    "The plant life in the ocean is collapsing at a rate of 1 percent per year," the same amount of decline as is seen in terrestrial rainforests, George said.

    But the total amount of decline in phytoplankton biomass is equivalent to the disappearance of all the rainforests on Earth, George said, and which he describes as "an absolute cataclysmic state of collapse." >>

    Ever wonder why the CO2 levels are rising ?

    Wonder why the marine micro-layer biosphere has collapsed ?On In an op-ed, Russ George claims his company has been unfairly maligned posted 2 years, 5 months ago 29 Responses

  • Incorrect Posting

    Sorry wrong thread, technical problemsOn Remember when stupidity was something to be ashamed of rather than a point of pride? posted 2 years, 5 months ago 7 Responses

  • Micro-Layer

    >> Far from harming marine life, George says, the plans of iron enrichment will actually revitalize phytoplankton, whose numbers have been steadily dropping over the last couple decades, as was reported in a Dec. 7 paper in the journal Nature.

    "The plant life in the ocean is collapsing at a rate of 1 percent per year," the same amount of decline as is seen in terrestrial rainforests, George said.

    But the total amount of decline in phytoplankton biomass is equivalent to the disappearance of all the rainforests on Earth, George said, and which he describes as "an absolute cataclysmic state of collapse." >>

    Ever wonder why the CO2 levels are rising ?

    Wonder why the marine micro-layer biosphere has collapsed ?On Remember when stupidity was something to be ashamed of rather than a point of pride? posted 2 years, 5 months ago 7 Responses

  • Game Over

    I just wonder who here thinks for themselves.... ah no not parroting "experts" opinions.

    We can all read expert opinions, BUT a layperson should not even try to interpret those opinions.
    Science is a language all of its own, unless you walk the walk and talk the talk, you are totally misinformed by scientific writings.

    However, it is nice to see the to'n'fro, the misunderstandings, the dreams and fantasies and the total lack of communication.

    Great guys.  Always get a committee to do nothing.

    All I can do is point you to your own blog

    http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/6/28/12424/1558
    and
    http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/6/27/11955/7487

    Unfortunately you are all incorrect, both in your assumptions and parroting.

    Now to the subject, UNLESS y'all start to actually communicate and sift through the fact in an unbiased manner, well, there will be just animosity.

    But why bother, what can you do about anything anyway..... debunk or not to debunk...

    by the time y'all get your act together it will be game over.On Vote! posted 2 years, 5 months ago 96 Responses

  • Nothing Changes

    The people, especially the cross-section I encounter on this media

    >> positively makes intelligence into a disqualifying trait for >>>>>

    rational discussion.

    It seems the masses are not amused if their rock is overturned.

    Typical human trait.... wonder where the saying

    "shoot the messenger" came from.

    Nothing changes on this Earth, except existence.On Remember when stupidity was something to be ashamed of rather than a point of pride? posted 2 years, 5 months ago 7 Responses

  • Fatally Flawed

    Unfortunately any climatic observations that are made and verified are eventually interpreted by human experience and finally by human logic.

    It is the logic in
    "I think this is correct because of such and such human reasoning" that many people challenge, not the fact in this case that global climate change is happening.

    Global climate changes are far too rapid for the cause to be anything but "unnatural", unless it is caused by some cosmic influence we know nothing about as yet.

    Science is logic, and we all know logic is not well handled by many people.

    Just because some goat states his/her logic and a flock of sheep bleat along in unison does not make the logic correct.  Reality is the only judge.

    Unfortunately Naomi Oreskes takes a very blinkered view that all science is correct.

    Her example of plate tectonics is rather curious.  The original logical connection that upset the old view was considered incorrect by "the consensus" of geologists, and a bloody scientific war ensued until "the theory of plate tectonics" was finally accepted.  (causalities were immaterial)

    The evidence always was, the Earth always was, but the logic was different for different people.

    The Gristmill posters, think the facts are, and therefore the logic should be the same, consensus should rule.

    WRONG ! science rises above this myopic view, however people and scientists only change their logic by being dragged screaming to the gallows.

    I do not see any merit in the link story.

    It is myopic and fatally flawed in logic.On A professor of History and Science Studies explains posted 2 years, 5 months ago 9 Responses

  • Hansen Speculation is Flawed

    Dr James Hansen is obviously a very intelligent man.

    Unfortunately his major emphasis and logic re CO2 climate forcing is rather myopic.  Paleoclimatic data is not related to human activity, it is a natural phenomenon.

    This fact is rather important since the present climatic changes on this planet are related to human activity.  What is happening IS a SPECIAL climatic case and it is totally unnatural.

    This is evidenced by the extremely rapid rate of climate change we are experiencing.

    So trying to tie historical climatic changes (where causes of Ice Ages etc are speculative at best) with current climatic changes can only lead to speculation upon speculation.

    True, greenhouse gases are measurably increasing and theory may support some assertions, but that theory remains theory.  What will be the outcome of increased CO2 in the atmosphere will really only be known in the fullness of time.

    IMO, I would not act upon the assertions of a theory without any real world experimental evidence.  

    I find it very strange that Dr J Hansen's climate change thrust is towards a CO2 greenhouse forcing, as I expect he is privy to observational data that he seems to be completely overlooking.

    Unfortunately I do smell a scientific disconnection, so I have to completely discount any assertions he may make.

    It is true the Earth is in trouble, however the why will remain very speculative until all the facts are honestly laid upon the table.  This has not happened to date.  

    There is much misinformation, disinformation and plain downright lies being passed around.... a state of total manipulated confusion.

    The only reality is the contortions the world's climate is experiencing.  The question remains begging..
     "Does the Earth have time to play silly games?".On Hansen says scientists need lovin', too posted 2 years, 5 months ago 6 Responses

  • True Love

    >> do whatever you want.......  but don't mess with our cars! >>>

    yep, they would rather die by heat exhaustion, freezing or whatever, but don't mess with their cars!

    Now you may realise the protection Big Oil has.

    Even extinction of the human race does not break their love.

    Is this rational ?  NO !.... a world really gone mad.

    Don't ya just luv the selfishness.  Even their children, their future are expendable.  True madness.On Namely, for someone else to pay for it posted 2 years, 5 months ago 15 Responses

  • Alternative

    You forgot

    I choose COAL and PLANET

    but I will trade you OIL

    If you choose OIL, then you reject PLANET

    Already with almost 100,000 fires raging in the USA, drought ever widening, y'all still aren't serious.On It ain't working posted 2 years, 5 months ago 6 Responses

  • Trust ? What's that ?

    >> good reason to doubt the sincerity of the Bush administration  >>

    Aw, come on, the guy has been sincere right from the start when he abruptly changed tact on global warming straight after he was elected.

    Y'all gotta trust a person like that !

    We all have to trust politicians, y'all still vote hey

    If you didn't trust them y'all would boycott the polls !

    But only I tear up ballot papers, crazy eh ?On Hold the applause on the administration's posted 2 years, 5 months ago 9 Responses

  • Common Crowd ? NO!

    >>  When an argument from authority is invoked it is perfectly legitimate to then examine said authority's, um ... authority  >>

    And thus the innocent but entirely truthful little guy that said

    "What you guys on about ? That emperor HAS NO CLOTHES ON !"

    Often in this age, the wool is pulled over your eyes, and like sheep y'all bleat together.

    Thus is the difference between a scientist and laypeople; between science and politics.

    Politics will bring the downfall of civilisation... it has done so many many times in the past.

    BUT ScientistS walk their own walk.  On Articles about climate skeptics posted 2 years, 5 months ago 2 Responses

  • WAKE UP

    from links provided

    >>  Dr. James Hansen, arguably the best climate scientist on the planet.... his research was being suppressed ......  Dr. Rick Piltz resigned ...... Since that time, Congressman John Culberson (R-TX) has circulated a letter cosigned by dozens of congressmen and senators claiming Bush's 2007 budget "Eliminat[es] virtually all scientific research funded by NASA".  >>>

    Why does this behaviour NOT RING alarm bells here ????

    We have SCIENTIST being repressed all over the world... and yet y'all just laugh.  Oh, the IPCC is it!!!!, a political load of cow dung, a smokescreen, propaganda at its worst.

    Why do y'all not see through what is going on ????

    The world is headed for a MASSIVE Ice Age, politically this is not good eh?
    But the people must know, and steps must be taken to prevent/mitigate tyhe consequences, even if the civilisation goes into melt down.

    It is irresponsible for money to think the longer it can rule the better.

    The children, the future is being held to ransom.

    WAKE UP

    Join S O S
    Save OurSelves
    omegafour.com

     On Articles about climate skeptics posted 2 years, 5 months ago 2 Responses

  • Lethal

    >> to save the most profitable industry in the world, in history, from taxes. The fossil fuel >>>>>

    and the most lethal On One small step forward, one step, uh, sideways posted 2 years, 5 months ago 5 Responses

  • ?Facts, may be false, ever thought of that?

    >>  Facts are facts. >>

    ah ha, and where do these "facts" come from ?

    Politicians!... so you see, you know squat about facts.

    I can assure the facts are not on the table, and the facts you think you know are contrived and congenially couched to placate panic.

    I suggest YOU PANIC !

    omegafour.comOn That you won't hear in the mainstream media posted 2 years, 5 months ago 18 Responses

  • All your thoughts are FLAWED

    >> starts from flawed assumptions.

    all your assumptions are flawed.On What good carbon policy should -- but often doesn't -- reward posted 2 years, 5 months ago 13 Responses

  • Integrity +

    >>  which would not speak well for their integrity

    Planktos is the only ethical organisation with a worthwhile solution, and yet as per usual, the rest of the world puts them down.

    I understand !, Y'all really want this world to end.

    Well so be it... I am not of this place.

    >>  catching up with the science here)

    don't bother there isn't any, and any suppositions made will be entirely off the truth, dangerously so.
    On Illegal, but they'll do it anyway posted 2 years, 5 months ago 5 Responses

  • One China

    One truth y'all do not understand.

    China is ONE people

    The West
    >>  often turn into kleptocracies ruled by thugs.>>
    Your path is to hell, unless you REALLY WAKE UP !

    China will beat the rest hands down.... but I guess y'all are poor losers, so make war, uh ?
    You will still lose.On That you won't hear in the mainstream media posted 2 years, 5 months ago 18 Responses

  • Serious ?

    >>  Seriously, everyone should read this paper.

    Hey it is much easier to ignore reality, after all what can any single person do ?

    Hansen is not stupid, though I am sure you wish he was.

    S O S Save OurSelves, omegafour.comOn Is anyone listening? posted 2 years, 5 months ago 8 Responses

  • S O S

    S O S, Save OurSelves....  

    Protest now, protest for there will be no tomorrow.

    omegafour.comOn Convincing evidence for the central role of protest and a troubling cost-benefit analysis posted 2 years, 5 months ago 17 Responses

  • How long can they get away with it ?

    >> If you're a manufacturer in any industry you're going to consider what the implications are going to be 10 years down the road,  >>

    The oil industry MUST be shut down, NOW !
    I suspect they know it, so of course they will stoop to extortion to fill their coffers.   They won't fess-up until they are forced to, and so far everyone still loves their car.

    LOL, I expect Big Oil will be liable for the remediation of the Earth... sued for their last toe hair... oooh wouldn't want to be in the oil business.

    omegafour.comOn Hardly new, but brazen nonetheless posted 2 years, 5 months ago 8 Responses

  • Toxic State

    >>  If "Western Civilization" if failing, which civilization are we comparing it to?  >>

    a sane poison-free society, driven by compassion, empathy and a need to co-operate with each other, ensuring at all costs a future for the children.
    Where self is not held dear, and the whole of LIFE is held sacred.

    Mmmmh, totally alien isn't it !

    >>  I believe that all people, regardless of where they are born, should be given an equal chance to make of themselves what they will, within a sustainable vision. >>

    Unfortunately there is a saying

    "You are what you eat"

    You live in a rubbish dump, chock full of genotoxic and neurotoxic and biotoxic accumulatable substances.

    Why do then expect that you are sane ?
    Why then do you expect your offspring are the way they would be in a non poisoned world ?

    Why do you not understand "you are what you eat, drink and breathe"

    So you must understand people are SICK and do not know it... unfortunates that naively trusted the society around them to look out for them.

    Instead they were all shafted,,,, all, from the very top to the muddy bottoms.... traded for illusion.... money !!!

    To even have such levels in society betrays the toxic state of grubby mad affairs.

    omegafour.comOn What a nice idea posted 2 years, 5 months ago 45 Responses

  • It is all as it should BE

    >>  the problem with reduced participation.>>

    >>  (though they seem to drop in and out, don't they  >>

     >>  anybody who sets himself or herself up as a "contributor" in a blogging forum such as Gristmill believes that he or she has something worthwhile to say, and that there are people out there (out here!) who will want to read it. >>

    Seems Gristmill has all the answers and any dissenter is treated as a heretic.

    IMO, PLEASE realise that most if not all posters that come here come for good reasons.... if their intent is not good then time will tell.  But posted content and opinions should be more respected here than they seem to be.

    Welcome opinion that is not just yours and STOP creating a climate of fear.

    >>  What unique features of "western civilization" are contributing to global climate change?  >>

    Ghandi would not see western civilisation as good in any way.  I will say this again, the West is very poisoned, its body and genes are poisoned, its thoughts and actions and lack of concern are all poison generated.  

    This intoxicated "unawareness" will lead to the extinction of LIFE on Earth.  

    Your concern is that this whole unfolding of events on Earth is happening as it should and extinction SHOULD be the final outcome.  You are complicit, you are the masses pushing towards the cliff's edge.

    Now if someone wants to swim the other way, y'all jump and try to squash and drown the dissent, such is your sick state.

    Well jump all you like, I can assure there are not that many jumps you have left.

    Meanwhile for all those readers that wish to face the outcomes of the problem of global climate change straight on, read "The Death of Clouds"

    omegafour.comOn What a nice idea posted 2 years, 5 months ago 45 Responses

  • Ghandi, Was he a GOOD Man?

    >>  he would challenge the moral integrity of so-called western civilization  >>>

    LOL, the west has no moral integrity, yes, it is a so-called civilisation.

    >>  How the hell did we tolerate the kind of poverty that brought death (and misery) to so very many people?  >>

    Oh "unawareness" is easy when you do not have a mind.On What a nice idea posted 2 years, 5 months ago 45 Responses

  • Poison Daemons !

    >>  In fact the 20th century was a monument to collective madness. I don't see why the 21rst century promises to be any different. Lets face it folks, societies can behave irrationally.  Societies can, with drums beating and flags flying, march off cliffs. >>>

    YOU MUST WONDER WHY !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Who do you trust, who do YOU call ?

    omegafour.comOn Scientists weigh in posted 2 years, 6 months ago 27 Responses

  • GIGO

    As they correctly say in the computer industry, GIGO (garbage in - garbage out)... computers can not correct the programmer's conceptual mistakes.

    An in the computer models use to generate Hansen's projections, as usual the micro layer of the ocean has been totally ignored.

    Meanwhile with all climatic systems programmed to "act naturally", of course garbage is the output.

    Humanity is depending on a correct analysis.... On Scientists weigh in posted 2 years, 6 months ago 27 Responses

  • Crash and Burn

    >>>  He has five Masters degrees (count 'em: aerospace science, electrical engineering, applied physics, business administration, and civil engineering) and a Ph.D. in aerospace engineering.

    However, his interview on NPR shows that all that book learnin' doesn't mean what he says is intelligent.  >>>

    well read all about it
    A scientist trashing another scientist, without even knowing what Dr Griffin was really talking about.

    Hows that for consensus on global climate change.

    And laypeople are so impressed, they go off and giggle.

    Where is the unity, where is the direction, where is the hope !  Aren't the facts plain to see ?

    Oh I see, agree with me and everything is OK > >  >

    But the problem is, not one of these scientist has all the facts, and so neither knows what they are talking about.

    Typical in these days of toxic pollution.On On the NASA administrator's comments posted 2 years, 6 months ago 11 Responses

  • And now to the bottom

    >> I read such things and realize the echelons of government have been turned on their heads and those who rise to the top are in fact incompetent >>

    only those at the top ?

    well well, the incompetency goes all the way, top to bottom

    and no one is concerned, because they are all looking in the same mirror.  Unaware is a better descriptor, blissfully unaware !

    Mr. Griffin is actually correct even though he has no idea at all.  

    Record breaking "air temperatures" are common, but  the records are only consistent with clear sky days, and recorded in seasons outside summer.  

    Please list all the air temperature records measured in the middle of summer.

    Please post this years list of record breaking rainfalls/snowfalls

    World wide results would be nice, thanks.

    So prove to me the world has a CO2 emission problem.

    The only problem with Mr Griffin is that he is totally unaware that the world's climate is not heading towards semi tropical paradise

    The world is hurtling towards a Snowball Earth.On Hard to believe he's part of the Bush administration! posted 2 years, 6 months ago 24 Responses

  • I have little Faith

    >> See here for an explanation of why you should believe it.  >>

    well clouds seem to be in everyone's eyes, and inconsistent ocean warming, and galloping drought...
    just for starters

    and now the talk is of a snowball Earth.... global warming is being trashed by many qualified and sound scientists.

    Climate, projected on "proxy" data, and perceived trends, all concocted to fit current observations via computer programs... err programmers !!

    well you have great faith, time will sort it out, but will humanity still be here if all the alchemy is incorrect... or worse still totally fabricated.

    An someone who thinks money will save them is standing behind all the ill informed.On The 'in it for the money' theory of climate science doesn't pan out posted 2 years, 6 months ago 9 Responses