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Celebrate by killing billions of innocent animals

Celebrate by killing billions of innocent animals - What is wrong with you people! Really think about it, how can you celebrate at the death of so many innocent animals.

Do people honestly think that by eating dead animals, you can have more fun? and eating the skin of animals will bond them more with their families?

Sad, really sad! On To make the Thanksgiving centerpiece a sure triumph, go heritage -- and reach for the deep-fryer posted 1 year ago 5 Responses

Have meet every vegetarian?

This article wrote "Vegetarians have long evangelized about their eating habits, declaring that a diet of plant-based food is the best one for a small planet."

If telling the true to the masses that over consume means "evangelized", sure!

If more people were vegetarians I bet the millions of hungry people around the world could eat the grains and use the resources that is used to make dead innocent animal meat.

Why is Grist becoming such a vegetarian/vegan hater! - Why is there so much mocking and pro "eat animals". Your mag, is about saving, not killing.

I am going to give your mag a few more tries and if your "environmental" articles are still pro meat,, I'm not interested in reading your crap!On How to green your grocery list posted 1 year, 3 months ago 8 Responses

Num Nut chef,,, promoting killing animals...

There are so many publications now a days that are encouraging more ethical eating, and from grist we get another "pro kill and eat dead diseased innocent animals" article! Grist is about saving resources, (which by the way should include all the resources that are unduely used to produce meat)!

Like your previous "pro meat" articles you are promoting a Num Nut "chef" called Jamie Bissonnette. I do not care if you are eating "all" of the animal,,,, do you think that justifies the pain and suffering the animal had to endure. NO! How about you actually encourage people to eat ethically. Write according your markets niche versus being so pro killing animals.

No wonder your core sponsors are leaving you!
On Getting to the meat of the matter with Boston chef Jamie Bissonnette posted 1 year, 4 months ago 21 Responses

Dislike - but lets compare.

I personally dislike PETA - for for other reasons than this.

However you have to remember three things

1) The interns/employees volunteers etc.. are choosing this the animals never chose to be hurt!

2)    the people in the marketing campaigns, can stop this any time they want, animals on the other hand have years of abuse and can not just get up and leave
3)    If we are going to criticize one organizations marketing campaigns, surely, we sure about do the same for the: beer companies, car companies, fast food ad's, clothing, fashion etc...

If you are going to criticize them lets do it to all industries that use/exploited/degrade women.

I only have this one life, so I am going to try my very best to make a positive change. --- The Happy & Healthy Vegan ---

"living lightly on the land"

- That is such nonsense! The cabin would take more land away from the local wildlife, and when people get there they are not there to mix into the natural life. Instead they leave trash, hunt local wildlife, cause more buildings to go up as their friends now want a second home too!

Honestly, why not just have a tent and go camping, pick up your stuff at the end and than go home.

Why do humans like to make very thing so much more complicated than it has to be. Why do we insist on using up every last resources to have more sh!t that we actually need. There is no other species that causes this level of destruction that we do every day!

I only have this one life, so I am going to try my very best to make a positive change. --- The Happy & Healthy Vegan ---

Stop feeding animals and than eating them.

Yes, I know I have said it before, and I will say it again.

Stop unnaturally and over breeding animals. Stop using the resources (land, water, money, wood, electric power etc...) to have animal meat. Instead use the resources and foods to feed the millions that are hungry! Honestly, its that that complicated. Of course many rich people and people that the USDA, will not like it, but at least millions of young children and their families will not be dying of hunger due to the west (and not Indian and China's) need for dead animal meat.On USDA pessimistic on hunger outlook posted 1 year, 4 months ago 11 Responses

which one was the most damaging?

Out of all the factors (climate change, ocean pollution, overfishing, tourism, and development), I would be interested in knowing which one is the most damaging?

The real sad thing is we as humans can stop all of the factors, yet we chose not to!
 On Penguin declines don't bode well for the rest of us posted 1 year, 5 months ago 8 Responses

This is your milk and beef lunch and dinner

This is your milk and beef lunch and dinner.

http://video.hsus.org/index.jsp?fr_story=27958d7bf4de8b77 ...On More use of growth hormones would boost sustainability of dairy industry, says study posted 1 year, 5 months ago 19 Responses

good sense of concern - but off the mark!

CountBlah - I agree with you there is so much abuse done to animals, - whether they are dogs, cats, or cows! I too have watched animal cops and walked away feeling a complete sense of anger and hurt.

However I would like you to consider the following points about a vegan world.

1. People would never just all of sudden stop eating animals. It would a gradual effect.
   
2. The gradual consumption in animals would decrease the demand, hence decreasing the supply, as it would not be as profitable.
   
3. As demand drops, animals would not be unnaturally breed as they are now.
   
4. The fewer animals would gradually go back to the way they use to live before humans captured and caged them. No animal was born into a cage, before humans made it a profiting business.

Please remember animals were fine before we got involved. And they will be fine when we stop messing with them. With time animals are very adaptive.

Its us human animals that do not know how to change!

I enjoyed reading your opinion and I hope you can learn form mine. - if you ever want vegan or vegetarian recipes, I would love to share!

I only have this one life, so I am going to try my very best to make a positive change. --- The Happy & Healthy Vegan ---

hey biodiversivist

I think you are misunderstanding my words. Its like if people want to eat less meat - great! thats good news. However why do people need to use a title "Part time vegan". you either are a vegan or not. - Its like saying part time pregnant. SEE WHAT I AM SAYING?

Plus its awareness, because atleast main stream mags are writing about this stuff.

Plus, I think you actually knew me, you would know I write the way I talk, - which is a very lose conversation style. - with a hint of "attitude". I hope you can see that. and if not oh well!

I only have this one life, so I am going to try my very best to make a positive change. --- The Happy & Healthy Vegan ---

Thank you

I'll check it out next time I am in costco. Yeah, I like different veggie burgers. I am noticing more companies are offering more vegetarian options! ~ Cool ~  

I made vegan chocolate cake the other day, - I bearly got to eat it as everyone around me was so busy stuffing their faces with it!  ~ made me smile ~

I only have this one life, so I am going to try my very best to make a positive change. --- The Happy & Healthy Vegan ---

Tom ask them

How we can promote schools to eat more locally grown, organic and healthy fresh foods?

Right now it seems that schools have strong contracts with too many large non organic suppliers.

Schools would be good plac eto provide organic foods so that kids can start to learn that local organic foods are more healthy

Thank you Tom.

I only have this one life, so I am going to try my very best to make a positive change. --- The Happy & Healthy Vegan ---

Actually I do - latenac.

Your question: "Do you recognize all the field animals that might have been killed bringing your dinner to your plate? I mean the mice, squirrels, rabbits, insects, etc., etc?" -

My answer: Yes. I grew up in Orthodox religious family. And every year we had days (usually one or two) where we fasted to absolve the sins of causing the death of the field animals for our foods. Now, as an adult I do not belong to any religious infrastructure. But I still dedicate one day of fasting to acknowledge this. The fasting is not a self denial, but rather reorganization, of the lives that were lost. And the importance of being grateful for what I have on my dinner plate.

Your question: Do you recognize the migrant labor that goes into your food?

My answer: Being an immigrant myself, I do recognize the hard labors my counter parts have to endure. I am lucky to have a professional white collar job, but I know many immigrants that work on the fields as well as the slaughter houses. The people that work in the fields would rather pick vegetables and fruits than the work in the slaughter houses. Slaughter house have accidents are at an alarming rate, but are not reported due to illegal immigration status or legal lower economic status.

Anyway, this veering off the point. --
On Food Network star Alton Brown adds a pinch of sustainability to the pot posted 1 year, 5 months ago 27 Responses

F'ing hilarious!

Honestly, Caniscandida  and Askantik, its not worth the time. - I have read both of your thread here and on other posts, and I am always so amazed how people react on this forum.

This is meant to be an environmentally consciousness mag. I see so many words/phrases like "green", "sustainability", "locally grown", "support your local farmers", "factory farming is bad" blah, blah, blah. But as soon as someone suggests not eating animals. Well now that becomes fights words.

On the one hand these and other articles alike want people to change. Yet when there are questions about changing ones own ethical eating patterns. - There is such a abrasive fight, (often turning into personal attacks).

As a conclusion, I think these authors and readers only want change, - to a certain extent. A change that only supports their current way of eating, but allows themselves to feel better about the dead animals they eat.

Now, here is the real kicker - When a vegetarian or a vegan wants that same platform to ask for change, they are called hypocrites, preachy, self-righteous, --- and all sorts of other names!  - Just because they are pointing out a more ethical way of eating!

Oh and by the way - "Chicken Moment" - what the F is all that about. Whether you personally know your chicken, or you don't, do you really think the animal cares either way? I mean, seriously do you think the chicken, says "Well, now that I have seen the face of my killer, I feel so much better!"

F'ing hilarious!
On Food Network star Alton Brown adds a pinch of sustainability to the pot posted 1 year, 5 months ago 27 Responses

Good Article Tom

I sometimes wonder about this when other people in my office get sick. And they take lots of meds, but it does not seem to help them every much. Your article makes a good valid argument against such poor sick conditions for the animals and people. On U.S. officials dither while antibiotic-resistant bacteria strains creep into our pork supply posted 1 year, 5 months ago 10 Responses

Ron Steenblik -

Gosh, I honestly feel like I need to defend every comment, but that's okay.

1. Majority of the animals that are eaten are unnaturally over breed. - In the US alone 10 billion animals are killed for food per year. - Those 10 billion animals are not reproducing naturally. So once humans stop over breeding the animals population will decrease.

2. What is wrong with "do something to keep them from over-breeding"

3. Why do we get to decide how many animals get to reproduce at what level? - Surely you do not think that this earth belongs only to us - or do you?

4. What is wrong with allowing an animal to live to its old age, like we do?

KPM - Did you not read my comment..

to Tom, saying "We are both fighting the status quo. I very much hope that at least one us wins."

I have congratulated Tom on his excellent writing many times before. I am sorry if that seem to be over shadowed by my wanting less abused animals.

I am not trying to alienate anyone that wants to protect and care for animals. I have great respect for my local farmers. As a vegan I have even gone to my local dairy farmer and spoken to them about how much I respect them for their hard work and not selling their land to housing construction as so many others have on the last ten year in North Ogden, Utah.

I see the cows in the morning grazing on grass and enjoying the sun. And in the winter I see them protected in the barn away from the cold snow munching on the food the farmer is providing. - I feel happy seeing those cows everyday.

However, those situations are rare. And there are far more abused animals. And that abuse occurs because their there is profit in producing animal meat. If there was decreased or no demand for those animals dead bodies do you think the same level of abuse would occur?
On The USDA's new ban won't keep sick cows out of the food supply posted 1 year, 6 months ago 43 Responses

Well, well, three responses in one.

Granny Green, - lets pretend that Ghandi did eat meat few times or few years. Whatever. But really Ghandi left a legacy promoting peace. And how can you have peace in the world when you show no kindness to the slaughtered animals on your dinner plate?

Tom, - When I started reading your accounts of appalling animal abuse and meat & dairy industries. I was very impressed with your writing. I still do applauded you for bringing these stories to us. However why do you seem to think that my veganism is not a political stance. I believe it is a simple demand and supply. If you do not demand abused dead animals than there are no/less abused dead animals. Can you honestly telling me that just because a animal is raised locally there is absolutely no abuse caused to the animal?

Tom, please do not give me lecture on consumers rights. I am consumer activist. I buy local fruits, vegetables, organic grain. I go out of my way to buy house cleaning/personal products that are truly environmentally friendly (versus just a green coloured lable). I spend more money to buy something I ethically agree with than support big business that causes so much destructions to humans and animals. - My veganism is as much about political activism as it is about my inner peace and wealth.  

I can not politically protest for better animal treatment and still at the end of the day eat the animal. - what is the point in that?  

When you really want change, you stop the demand of the supplies. - It does not get simpler than that!

Joeblueskie, - I will not be quitting my day job - but that's because I make too much money in my current profession! Now whether it is a small family farm or Tyson, - the definition is the same. I agree the conditions are extremely different. But the result is the same. Animal killed for meat for people to eat.
On The USDA's new ban won't keep sick cows out of the food supply posted 1 year, 6 months ago 43 Responses

Green Granny - your comments are misguided

Green Granny, - thank you for the misguided funny comments. Its Monday morning and I needed a laugh.

1)Mahatma Ghandi - please do not quote my vegetarian hero to support your a animal eating arguments! Mahatma Ghandi was a vegetarian, and not only due to his religious connections either, but rather due to moral and ethical way of life.

2)"It is possible to raise animals "humanely".  Pet owners do".  -  How many pet owners slaughter their pets and than eat them? - I for one have not seen anyone participate in that sick way!

3)Thank you for agreeing that the vegan diet is "ethically superior", however majority of people do not follow the vegan diet to be "superior". They do it do be kinder.
On The USDA's new ban won't keep sick cows out of the food supply posted 1 year, 6 months ago 43 Responses

How about

"Do sane people with good hearts still eat ANIMALS?"

The answer would be NO.

Canis. I understand what you are saying, but in my opinion HSUS, is making a process. Okay there can be two paths:

a) Humans avoid eating animals for their own health sake
b) Humans avoid eating animals for the animal kindness.

I believe humans are too selfish, and therefore will chose opinion A more than they will ever chose opinion B. - Regardless, which opinion the result is the same. - The animals can live their life in peace and away from abuse, cruelty, and slaughter.

I believe humans are too selfish, and therefore will chose opinion A more than B. - Regardless, which opinion the result is the same. - The animals can live their life in peace and away from abuse, cruelty, and slaughter.  On The USDA's new ban won't keep sick cows out of the food supply posted 1 year, 6 months ago 43 Responses

Thank you

Thank you. Of course I knew this, but its great resources to pass it on.

Thank you

Happy Healthy Vegan. On What's wrong with what we eat posted 1 year, 6 months ago 2 Responses

- erm,,,

And how many years did that take!

I am not a supporter of wally world, or its delayed reactions to issues that have been occuring for many many many years!

Whatever they are selling, I am not buying! On Wal-Mart tightens safety standards for toxics in toys posted 1 year, 6 months ago 4 Responses

I am truely green.

I am 31, and this is my death plan.

When I all old and bitter (well, actually I am bitter now, but anyway). I want to have party. Eat all the foods I love, play my fav. music, and just have a laugh. Dance a bit, laugh at all the be left in some remote mountain place, pop a few pills and die. My body will be eaten by animals. Now you can't be greener than that!

Now if I am off'd in some accident, I want to be cermated. - But I am really hoping for the mountain theme! On Dissolving your corpse is the green way to go posted 1 year, 6 months ago 12 Responses

I am not buying it!

The "We kill wildlife" - oh I mean "The Fish and Wildlife" people are probably washing the blood of their hands right now! -

Humans killed those poor and innocent seals and we all know it!

So whatever cover up these murders are selling, I am not buying it! On Sea lions actually not assassinated, say officials posted 1 year, 6 months ago 2 Responses

solution - yes or no?

Can we put the polar bears in Canada?, - so they can eat the seals.

• then the fishermen do not have to brutally kill the seals.
  
• the fishermen can allow the pollar bears to eat the seals ands leave fish for the people?

Thanks  
The vegan with a solution. On Alaska legislature looking for polar-bear skeptics posted 1 year, 6 months ago 159 Responses

more abuse!

Honestly, if I knew that these camels were going to be treated well and kindly sure, I am all for this. But considering the source "Livestock Development" is providing this information, I can only imagine animals being pushed to their limits with little care and food.

I think more the oil shit continues the more the animals on this planet will be used and abused to their limits! until one day we will have nothing! -

Humans are the only species that use up so much, yet provide so little in return! On Indian camels celebrate high oil prices posted 1 year, 7 months ago 2 Responses

- thats why I like Apple and GOOGLE.

Other IT companies are trying to find renewable resources to a) help with their own enegry consumption and b) help find better solutions for the public in general. But in the mean times Bill Gates is causing more harm.

I hope Apple uses this against them in their PC versus Mac commericals.

- thats why I like Apple and GOOGLE. - they are hype and in touch with trends and issues. On Legislators protest Gates family's stake in Big Stone II posted 1 year, 7 months ago 9 Responses

what about?

What about no underwear day? are we going to have one of those?

Seriously, I bet we could save the planet by wearing no clothes. think about it!

1. We would not need all the cloth
   
2. We could save energy by not making clothes,
   
3. We would save trees by not buying magazines about clothes and fashion
   
4. We would save food, because more people would care about what their bodies looked like and they would not be as fat and overweight
   
5. We would save money by not over eating - see point above
   
6. We would not kill animals for fur

10 billion animals are killed per a year,

so of course there is going to be problems!

I suggest the best way for the reform is to take out the animals part. - I bet that will solve everything!

So basically, stop with the animals killing, and you may have a better result int he energy and food crisis.

But no this idea will never work with the animal eating crowd! - On Independent report calls for major reforms to industrial animal farming posted 1 year, 7 months ago 15 Responses

Jonas - Reasons y people eat more meat

To think that caveman mentally makes us eat more meat is silly, because than the same mentally would make me resist wearing clothes. Because cavemen did not wear much clothing.

Q: What is it that makes people want to eat more meat?

A: There are several factors that make people eat more meat. - nothing to do with real protein
1)    the easiness of getting fast food
2)    all tasty flavors from the spices and oils the animal is cook in - (ironically all the spices and oil come from plants)
3)    Good marketing - to eat animals is a sign of wealth and freedom
4)    More women are working, and therefore going for the easy pre made boxed high fatty cheap meats. - I am not against women working, as I am professional female, however I see many of my counter parts not really cooking for their families but opening the freezer and getting out a colorful box and heating the contents in the micro way.
5)    The meat industry has brainwashed the protein myth so much it has become globally believed
6)    Domination, many cultures believe that to prove your manhood you must bring down a breast - hunting -
7)    Poor stereotypes still exist, that if you do not eat meat you are week and gay! - Versus a strong and fit!  
8)    In India people are trying to be more western by eating easily available meat
9) peoples unhealthy bodies are used to high levels of fatty foods and therefore wish to continue that fatty dietOn Are you a vegetarian? posted 1 year, 7 months ago 53 Responses

More vegan products. - great

It is great to see more vegan products. I usually buy vegan products - make up and home cleaning supply. Vegan means no animals in the product and not tested in animals. Which is great because no animal needs to die for my lipstick!

Plus, this creates more awareness, when I go to the local beauty store most assistants do not evne know what animal testing is, or which products do not test on animals. And I live in a city.

It is only consumer demand and business that meet that demand that will change the evil face of animal testing. - And gradually decrease animal cruelty in all aspects of life.
On Kate Hudson launches eco-friendly haircare line posted 1 year, 7 months ago 3 Responses

- Moving foward.

I know that the ideal situation would be to allow the sea lions to live their lives in the nature. However I am glad to see that the seas lions will not be killed.  Plus I trust the Humane society to do follow up check ups and make sure they are in good homes.  

Which ever zoo/aquariums takes them would know about the public attention on the sea lions and therefore would be more committed to taking care of the sea lions and the other animals too.

I really do love the Humane Society. In the last few years they seemed to have made good progress. - Especially in the legal department.

All my birthday present and Christmas presents will be checks made out to the Humane Society. I am proud of them!
On Northwest sea lions granted stay of execution posted 1 year, 7 months ago 4 Responses

Wackatalpide: - do you take meds?

Wackatalpide:

Did you have the same concerns of "slippery slope" when test tube babies were created, or how about the advancement of when med's occured, or what about life support machines, were at the hospitals throwning up your hands and protesting about those things?

Please do not get all "ethical" now, if you take med's than you have already been part of that slippery slope for many years now!

And whatever foods you are eating right now, is probably modified from its original source. Unless you grow every single thing yourself, you will never know exactly how "frankenfood" your food really is?On PETA offers $1 million for commercially viable test-tube meat posted 1 year, 7 months ago 16 Responses

Happy Belated Birthday!

Here is virtual toast! - To good health, good friendship and the end of animal cruelty!

So why did you not get a rat? - whats up with that? I am sure there were lots of rats at rescue place.

Rats are said to be very intelligent. One day when I have child, I hope we can have more pets, but as for now, my husband has put a limit to my saving more animals!!!On Cats and dogs contaminated with chemicals, says study posted 1 year, 7 months ago 11 Responses

great with live animals, not so good with dead one

Can, - Thank you so much, but I am not good with dead animals.

I tried cooking chicken once and nearly killed the man I was dating. The middle of the chicken was still frozen and the outsides were burnt. Well, the only reason this guy ate the whole thing was to be nice to me and to get "some" after dinner. Despite the chicken accident, we are now married. And there are only live animals in the house. I am too "chicken" to cook with the dead ones.

But upon your suggestion, I shall buy some little dog food. Thank you. On Cats and dogs contaminated with chemicals, says study posted 1 year, 7 months ago 11 Responses

Agree 100% plus.

Raevynn, I so agree 100% with you! - My experiences have been the same. With three more additions, -

1. Better health - lower risks of gaining weight - which is often the root to other long term serious health issues. Also the short term health issues are also limited. I noticed over winter, most people in my office were sick, - but me! Hence major savings on meds for now and in the future.

2. Greater connection with nature - it is so nice to handle fresh earthy foods, - a handfull of grains, feels good. Versus skin and blood and some weird bump that you have no idea what it is?

3. Clear skin, - okay now I am being self involved, but seriously, my skin glows and I feel oh so sexy! -

The happy vegan. On An earthy recipe for treading lightly on earth and pocketbook alike posted 1 year, 7 months ago 5 Responses

McDeath and Killer King and Cocain coke

McDeath and Killer King, have more marketing money to attract kids. Infact in recent months, McDeath campaigns have taken a "green" theme. And it is truly disappointing that people look at these commercials and think that McDeath is now healthy! - Believe me eating a few slices of apples dripping with sugary corn syrup, is not healthy!

Also, - for sh!ts and giggle, watch any popular tv between the times of 3 to 9, and see how many junk food companies are pushing this horrible "food" look like!

Even if Americans kids stop/decreased eating junk "food", there are so many new markets that will keep these companies in business - India, China. etc.. On Coca-Cola and McD's top brands among teens, study says posted 1 year, 7 months ago 6 Responses

WHY NOT?

If stops cruelty to animals. - I am all for it.

As far as the "ick factor" oh pleaassee anyone that eats dead animals, should have got over the ick factor - already! I mean whats was great about eating a diseased skin of a corpses?On Meat of the future may be grown in a lab posted 1 year, 7 months ago 14 Responses

No wonder people hate Americans....

"its intention to make Poland - the Iowa of Europe.-"

Its bad enough that eastern Europe is struggling compared to Western Europe, but now there will be even more economic depression. Congratulations Smithfield, for killing animals and reducing human living standard for the small local farmer in Poland.

Smithfield's CEO will get bigger bonus, and the poor farmers will become penny-less and go hungry at the same time more resources will be used to raise and kill more innocent animals!

No wonder people hate Americans....
On The hog giant CAFOizes Poland and Romania to gain access to Western Europe posted 1 year, 7 months ago 2 Responses

I would have loved it if the Bush Admin..

I would have loved it if the Bush Admin had gone to the moon or mars about "8 years ago". I would have packed him a lovely lunch for his trip. And wished him the best of luck. With a smile, I would have said "don't come back too soon, little bush!".

Infact, in retrospect, I would have told him that that there were WMD on the Moon, and that he needed to go and investigate.
On Take care of Earth before ruining other planets posted 1 year, 7 months ago 5 Responses

To Konklarii

Firstly, it does matter if the seals are babies or not. Its a photo! And it is only in the last 20 years that baby seals have been off limits! -

Secondly, many Canadians do object to the seal hunting. - It is not as you point out "Most of the opposition to the seal hunt comes from the US, not Canada".

Also you seem to justify violent acts with traditional occupation. If we all continued doing the same thing, and justifying the cruelties, we would all still be caveman and cavewoman. - Life is constantly progressing. Your priority should be how can be make this a better future for yourself and the world around you. Not lets support a barbaric way of living.

Please do not justify cruel seal (or any animal) hunting by saying you have no choices. We "specially" in the developed countries do! I doubt majority of peoples jobs are the same as their great grand fathers. - its about progress - life moves.

If economics is the problem here - as it often is - Does it mean that every seal will be killed in the hope to fish more? Because the fish population is decreasing. - so really according to your suggestions every seal should be killed?

I am not happy that the seal hunters died. -  wrong place, wrong time, - wrong club!
On Militant activists charged in seal protest posted 1 year, 7 months ago 23 Responses

Canis, - my friend

I am a great believer of non-violence. However, I think that approach has been exhausted and resulted in little achievement. Recently on Facebook, I have been in "discussion" with pro seal hunting people. I have listened to their opinion and than tried to explain to them the devastation of their (promoting) seal killing actions.

Dealing with the pro sealing killing community is/was very hostile and difficult. One particular young woman told me "Seals are the pigs of the ocean and every one of them needs to be killed". That was a mild opinion! in comparison. - This type of hostility was over the internet thousands of miles away. So now imagine what the Sea Shepard's are going through.  -

In retrospect everyones actions are never 100% prefect, but I am proud of the sea Shepard for doing something, versus nothing.
On Militant activists charged in seal protest posted 1 year, 7 months ago 23 Responses

I support the Sea Shepherd's

I support the Sea Shepherd's. But I feel sorry for them as they are going to have to fight against very large corp. fish industry. The fish industries can get top lawyers influence the government and law system. - The only way we can stop seal hunting. - Clubbing - is to stop the demand for fish. When there is no demand it is not profitable for the supplier to supply fish products.

I highly doubt the Can. government will actually do anything positive for the seal's, as they depend on the fish industries money hand outs.On Militant activists charged in seal protest posted 1 year, 7 months ago 23 Responses

Fine the employer on the earth!

I am a legal immigrant. I came to this country - from London, UK - 8 years ago.

I can see both sides of the debate to illegal immigrants. However, some pock-c wall is not going to help stop people from coming over.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, needs to set much higher fines for employer hiring immigrants for labour. I have seen so many street corners, in the morning (in Cali and Utah), where a big van drives up and picks up a few out of tens of illegal immigrant men to do labour work on housing/gardening constructions.

Putting up a wall, is taking money away from a current week economy, whereas fining employers would put money into the INS, and help people gain legal access to this land of the "brave and free".

However, I am sure that the current is too scared or dependented to ever go up against construction tycons. - Wimps! On Eco-laws pushed aside for faster building of border fence posted 1 year, 8 months ago 9 Responses

what of animals that eat animals?

Lion:
a) no choice of millons of different foods
b) no factory farming
c) no chemicals
d) no horrible years of confinement
e) no pollution caused due to factory/intensive farming

Human animals

...okay... you get my point, we have the greatest ability in choices, yet we chose the worst ones, for our own health, for the health and kindness involved for the animals, and for the planet at large!

BTW. - vegans did not create an "industrial agricultural system". What are you talking about!

By me calling "you" selfish I am intolerant. Just because I used a word. Selfish. So by you commiting the act (which is great than any word)of eating animals what does that make you? On 'Heart-healthy' pork from pigs with bad hearts posted 1 year, 8 months ago 33 Responses

atreyger -

Now you are just being silly. - If you think most vegans feel we are better than other people, maybe that something to do with how you feel, and nothing to do a vegan!

Maybe when the topic of eating animals comes up you feel outof sorts. But please do nto take it out on vegans. We are not sub/super humans, we are just people trying to our best in a less than perfect world. My actions as vegan, aims to reduce cruelty, but before you start pointing fingers, how about you ask yourself a) what are you doing to reduce cruelty and b) is it enough?

Ps. Next time you meet a vegan try not to not pre-judge. On 'Heart-healthy' pork from pigs with bad hearts posted 1 year, 8 months ago 33 Responses

About time.

This is good start in the right directions, but we need them to do more than just "consider" it, actually do it!

Honestly for Can. it would be better to make the seal industry a tourist spot, and earn money versus killing the seals!- Lets start seeing big fines for the seal hunters!On Feds to consider endangered-species protections for four species of Arctic seals posted 1 year, 8 months ago 3 Responses

Pangolin - you just don't get it do you?

Everything you have shown as problems with growing grains/lentils is doubled, because that resource is going to animals and those animals use up more resources, to make food for limited people.

Plus, why are we feeding animals grains that should be feed to starving people?

Surely, you don't believe that the current American Standard Diet, is good for this country. Do you not see the fat and obese kids in this country? - I tell ya, if they ate more vegetarian meals, and less fatty meats maybe diabetics would not be at an all time high. Nor would blood pressure, or cholesterol. Have you seen the expanding waist size of people in this country?

I agree a vegetarian/vegan diet maybe not the answer to everything, but is great start.  

As long as there are people defending the notions that is killing this country, the tax payer is going to continue paying for more drugs and suck up more resources.

Congratulations, you have succeeded in eating your sick dead animals.  

Its okay,  people like you will never get it!

Surely, you don't believe that the current American Standard Diet, is not good for this country. Do you not see the fat and obses kids in this country? - On Antibiotic-resistant bacteria thrives in CAFO pork, and Wall Street gobbles up Big Meat shares posted 1 year, 8 months ago 25 Responses

Pangolin, Yes and No.

I agree about improved "hygiene" improving human conditions, and limit the number of diseases.

However factory farming and intensive farming causes much more damage then we can even understand.

Let me give you a very simple explanation. If you put 1000 pounds of lentils/beans in a small tight space, nothing happens. You can continue to eat them after a long time. (grain reserves).

However if you put 1000 animals in a very small space, and if even one animal is sick, that disease spreads, and it goes into your food system. - If this were not the case, why is there so much use to antibiotics given to animals?

I find your explanation of eating meat "oh because other animals do it", to be insulting and rather silly. Lions do not factory farm, nor do they pump their prey with hormones, nor spray their prey with arcsine.

Plus we as humans have a choice to eat better. -

I hope you can understand this crucial point. We can get protein plus any other healthy survival foods without "constant" killing.

JavaEarth. The happy and heathy vegan. On Antibiotic-resistant bacteria thrives in CAFO pork, and Wall Street gobbles up Big Meat shares posted 1 year, 8 months ago 25 Responses

Oh did I mention

Oh did I mention a Vegan diet is better for feeding the hungry people of this world. Stop feeding the grains to animals, and feed the hungry people.

Over 95% of the US would rather suck up the resources and pollute the planet, just so you can eat your diseased and dead animals.

Sad really. On As the feds bail out Wall Street, here's a food-related fix for Main Street posted 1 year, 8 months ago 12 Responses

I heart trains. New train in Northern Utah.

I grew up in London, UK. I love trains. I love the speed, and I love the stress free journey, I love being able to take quick cat nap on the train or read a newspaper or great book. Most of all, I love trains because they do not make as many stops as buses and are not effected by the street car traffic.

There is a new train system put in place in Northern Utah.

Most people here do not take nor care for the public transport, however when the gas prices go up and there is only one income supporting the family for 3 to 4 kids, I am sure that attitude is going to change. Utah has the highest numbe rof people per family in the US. Becausee the average couple here has 4 plus children.

The new train will go from Pleasant view to Salt Lake city. On Defying conventional wisdom, NC residents express desire for public transport posted 1 year, 8 months ago 27 Responses

Jabailo, - a few questions?

Jabailo, - a few questions?

How many years do lions keep their food (prey) in confinement without any quality of life?  
How long does a lion keep its pray in the same conditions of factory farming?
Do lions have the same vary of choices, like we "HUMANS" do?
When was the last time you saw a lion saying to himself "Oh, shall I have a nice elands, or a nice grilled veggie pizza"

See what I am saying buddy! I look forward to your responses.

Thanks
JavaEarth
On 'Downergate' reveals gaps in mad-cow testing and trouble in school-lunch sourcing posted 1 year, 8 months ago 12 Responses

Thank you Tom.

Dear Tom,

Week after week, you inform us about such sad cases, for that I thank you.

The sad part is there are probably more downers case every where today, and it seems like we are just waiting for another media exposure to animal cruelty.

At some point, our government needs to take accountability of its actions. And we as the people need to stand up and fight against big business's that feed us sick foods. We as a society need to use our money to chose better options.

But sadly we do not use the freedom we have, to fight for good human health and good animal kindness. Instead we continue to either live in denial or even defend the same notions that are killing us and thousands around the world.

Respectfully
Javaearth - aka The Happy Vegan!
On 'Downergate' reveals gaps in mad-cow testing and trouble in school-lunch sourcing posted 1 year, 8 months ago 12 Responses

So anyone know what happened to the Sealions?

Can someone help me understand what that means for the Sealions. A few months ago, I read on Grist that the state of OR. was thinking of killing many sea lions because they were eating only "4%" of the salmon. ONLY 4%!

I personally never want to see any sealion be killed for eating the only thing it has. Unlike the Sealions, people do not have the need to eat salmon, we have lot of other (less expensive) types of food. We have many healthy and cheap alternatives.

So anyone know what happened to the Sealions? - On Salmon fishing season in California and Oregon may be canceled posted 1 year, 8 months ago 8 Responses

Eskimos need to shut their pie holes!

Eskimos in Alaska and Canada need to shut their pie holes, and stop killing seals and polar bears!

Infact, I don't even think it is the Eskimos/iniuts, - whatever, that are pushing for the anti polar bears, I think it is the oils companines and they need an excue so they use the Eskimos for their agenda!

Honestly, people just stop the madness of: KILL, KILL, KILL.

It feels like, humans are not going to be happy until they kill every single animal, and then they'll start killing their own grandmothers! On Inquiry made into delayed polar bear decision, green groups sue posted 1 year, 8 months ago 4 Responses

kill kill kill.

Mans answer to anything that does not fit prefectly with our way to life: kill, kill, kill!On Australia military will kill hundreds of kangaroos posted 1 year, 8 months ago 16 Responses

Thats was just too funny!!!!

chicken pimp - that has made my day! On Moby's new video pokes at KFC posted 1 year, 8 months ago 4 Responses

To Angry African - suggestion!

Here is a suggestion:-

"Instead of eating more dead animals, how about you actually help your fellow Africans, and feed them the grains. Stop feeding the grains to the animals that you eat! Help the millions of Africans that are starving every year because the food that should be going to them is being feed to animals! ... And maybe you'll be the "Kind Compassionate African", versus the "Angry African"!

At some point the US and European aid may not be  avaliable to give to your country, because most people will be trying to feed their own families!

So again, I suggest eating lower on the food chain. - but only if you care! or you can just carry on eating your dead animals!

Good luck with the angry issue! On Rising food prices hit home around the world posted 1 year, 9 months ago 10 Responses

Angry African dude - I have a few questions:

Do you wake up every morning and say the mantra  "I am from Africa - and we love our meat".

Why do you think eating fresh vegetables, grains and beans is disgusting?

Colonialism, - Africa was not the only country under oppression, - There was also India. And as an Indian woman, I am against oppression, but unlike you I actually try not to cause cruelty nor oppression to any other creature on this earth!

Instead of eating more dead animals, how about you actually help your fellow Africans, and feed them the grains. Stop feeding the grains to the animals that you eat! Help the millions of Africans that are starving every year because the food that should be going to them is being feed to animals! ... And maybe just maybe you'll be the kind compassionate African, versus the "Angry African"!
On If deals go through, three firms will own 90 percent of the U.S. beef market posted 1 year, 9 months ago 8 Responses

To Caniscandida

Interesting story. In India, when a woman is getting married, she gets special bangles. and one set of bangles is called "elephants teeth". Depending on the wealth of the family the girl gets either no "elephant teeth bangles", or a very large set, with craftman ship on the elephant teeth.

Well, even as a child, I use to look at the other Indian womens "elephant teeth" bangles. - However, it did not seem right! well, now as a married older woman - well I am 31! I understand the evil in those bangles. I use the word evil, because it is!

I remember this because the article you sent me said that the elephants in africa are killed for their teeth, for exports to Asia! - India!

P.S. When I got married, I asked not to have the elephant teeth bangles, even though I was very able to afford them! On First wolverine in 30 years spotted in California posted 1 year, 9 months ago 21 Responses

okay now - we all have to promise not to shoot it!

okay now - we all have to promise not to shoot it!

Sorry, I just see so many animals being killed, that I wonder how long before some hunter or ranger will come and kill the poor wolverine! On First wolverine in 30 years spotted in California posted 1 year, 9 months ago 21 Responses

The USDA - does not care!

There are many other places that have worse cases than Hallmark. Wait a few months, and another case will pop up, and then another and another!

The USDA, does not care! They do not care about your health. They care about profits and ties with the meat industries!

You are what you eat!

read: http://funvegetarians.com/forum/topic/show?id=1350827%3AT ...

that will give you more information. On The beef recall shows yet again that the USDA doesn't protect schoolchildren posted 1 year, 9 months ago 4 Responses

This is so simple

1)Stop cutting trees and depleting the oxygen levels in the world
2)Stop cutting trees to grow food for animals.
3)Stop eating animals and polluting the air and water ways
4)Stop eating animals that cause sickness and make people fat!
5)Use current livestock land to plant trees and harvest grains
6)More trees will create more oxygen
7)People with better health will live better, with less depended on medication
8)Feed the whole world with grains and fruits and good wholesome foods!

Of course the animal eating lovers will argue so much with me to keep on eating their sick animals! - Yeah good luck with that! - hope the meds bills are not too high!
On With wheat stocks at all-time lows, a fertilizer magnate utters the F-word posted 1 year, 9 months ago 28 Responses

Meeting with Livingstone -

I grew up in London. In 1988, I met Ken Livingstone. He was interviewed for my primary school news paper. At the time he was the council ----- "REPRESENTATIVE" ----- of Kilburn and Queens Park.

I remember he was a very concerned council man. Even at the age of 11 I thought he had very good ideas about changing the local community. And its great to see he is still fighting for good ideas, even 20 years later! Gosh, I am sooooo old 31! - Better go get my walker! hehe.

Good on ya Ken! You can do it!
On Mayor urges Londoners to boycott bottled water posted 1 year, 9 months ago 3 Responses

It's not a them against us issue!

"So, when the animal rights movement looks at my poor species, I will look at their concerns".

Why do the animal rights and caring about humans have to be mutually exclusive - I am vegan not just because of cruelty to animals but also, because I think it is unfair that we in the USA have so much food, yet 165 million die of starvation every year. So my thing is, I buy cheap wholesome good food, and save money. I save money from being vegan - (no meat, no dairy, no cheese, no ice-cream!- it adds up). That money that I save, I send to countries that have famine and I give food to people that I see being homeless, - in my down town area.

So "why is it a them against us issue". Its not!  

Dear CanisCandida - In every group you will have the people that think they are better/greater/smarter blah,, but that's every group. I work in a large company, and I see upper management behaving just the way you described people in your above passage. Also, my time in NYC, - I noticed people had different characteristics to the people I meet in Italy, - sometimes it's just about where you are.  

Honestly, please do not make it a them (animal caring) versus  us (human caring). The two can be improved together. Because we are all connected!
On Upton Sinclair on downer cows posted 1 year, 9 months ago 20 Responses

Anthony Bourdain = moron

"vegans ... are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit" really I thought my profession was Web Business Analyst. Not enemy of human spirit! Erm I must go and report to HR of my new status.

Seriously, Anthony Bourdain, - I would love to
bi*ch slap him! And take his fairy @ss to a slaughter house and ask him, if "vegans are still the enemy of everything good"?
On Veganism as relationship deal breaker posted 1 year, 9 months ago 17 Responses

killl, kill. kill.

Peace on Earth:

Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed.
Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them.
This in turn kills man by the millions, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions like heart disease, kidney stones, and cancer.
So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for a cures for those diseases.
Elsewhere, millions of human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestics' animals.
Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easy and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth". On Elk populations getting out of control in some national parks posted 1 year, 9 months ago 21 Responses

Feed them to the lions!

If they do not show up, lets feed them to the lions! Okay, okay, maybe that's too much! But, what about doing a online conference, or something that can still allow the candidates to fit the discussion in their busy time table.

Also I think even if one candidate turns up, it would be good as it would show that there are will to make a change. Plus they can have all that time talking about their plans!
On Date set for presidential debate on scientific issues posted 1 year, 9 months ago 7 Responses

destruction done in the last year

I really do hate seeing things like this, and of course the Bush Admin is trying to get as much as possible destruction done in the last year of office! Of course they do not see the importance of bears, they just see the dollars! - so every sad!On Sell-off of oil leases in polar-bear habitat brings record bidding posted 1 year, 9 months ago 2 Responses

old aged memory

I thought he was the one Rep. that was going to make positive green changes! Erm,,, Maybe it is an honet mistake, but its a very grave mistake! Maybe his old aged memory is failing him! On Green stimulus bill falls short by one vote -- McCain's vote -- in Senate posted 1 year, 9 months ago 6 Responses

look at the whole situation

I agree with you 100%. - I wish more people including environmentalist would view the whole picture. I know that its hard, to take everything into consideration. But we to improve on all levels, not just one.

I live in Northern Utah, near Wasatch Mountains base.  despite the fact that many homes on the market are not sold, there is so many new houses and roads being built! All th land is being taken away from the nearby wildlife. On Obama or Clinton: who's greener? posted 1 year, 10 months ago 46 Responses

poop poop for Bush!

I am not a fan of Mr Bush, and I often think he makes choices, that are not in line with helping environment and natural life. I am glad that this Judge took a good stand! -

I hope there is more good news to come. We need to protect not damage and kill, kill, kill! - sorry I am thinking of the Sea Lions and Wolves situation.

Learn. Think. Try. Succeed
On Judge rules Navy must comply with sonar rules posted 1 year, 10 months ago 2 Responses

great news-

great news! - "The three banks said that they would consider funding energy efficiency measures and renewable-energy projects ahead of coal plants"

Money is very powerful and I hope this makes a new positive change! On Three Wall Street banks announce funding restrictions for new coal power plants posted 1 year, 10 months ago 20 Responses

America - learn to think for yourself!

Meat marketers and lobbyist have brainwashed so much. -  It is sad to see intelligent people saying that it's okay to treat animals with such cruelty, for the sake of their taste buds!

Organic/local has nothing to do with cruelty free! Words such as "natural", "green", "organic", "local", get thrown around so much, its not even funny! - But that does not ensure any better treatment of an animal!

If as a society we continue to treat the week creatures with such disrespect, how can we ever say we have ethics?

One day when I am mother, I hope to teach my child about ethics, respect, love and kindness, and so far I see every little of that in our factory farms.

How can we call ourselves an "advanced society", when we exploit everything that is weaker then us!!!!

America - learn to think for yourself!
On In case you'd forgotten, industrial meat is a friggin' nightmare posted 1 year, 10 months ago 46 Responses

Go Green!

Oh I have a big smile on my face! Sorry it is not often I get all giddy and happy. Infact I think I am the grist resident cynic!

Stop the killing, stop the madness, and just maybe we'll be able to live in peace. - On Green groups sue over eased restrictions on wolf kills posted 1 year, 10 months ago 3 Responses

need for positive

Well it is our responsibility to do as much as possible. Simply because it was not the animals nor the plants that caused much of the damage.

We are always negatively interfering, (building more, polluting more,  killing more, cutting trees more, destroying more). So maybe its time to interfere in a responsible and positive way!

But I think "responsibility" is trait that seems very difficult to for humans! I hope when I am an old woman I will look back and see that I was wrong.

I hope most humans do care enough to take responsibility our planet and all that live in it!  
On Conservation work will potentially be undone by climate change posted 1 year, 10 months ago 3 Responses

Care more. Act with Compassion. Live peacefully

Care more. Act with Compassion. Live peacefully

OR

Learn more. Act with kindness. Stop Killing

OR

Stop Killing. All Worldly Resources. Love More On Here's your chance to be the Pollan of climate change posted 1 year, 10 months ago 94 Responses

how is the decision made?

People disappoint me! - just because an animal is not on the endangered list, does not mean we have a free killing spree!

How does the US fish and Wildlife make these decisions?
Do they survey the land?  
Do farmers complain about a wolfs?
Do hunters give the UFWM a big bonus for extra deer for hunting season? On Rule change eases restrictions on wolf kills in northern Rockies posted 1 year, 10 months ago 16 Responses

it is like pulling teeth

Aus is banning bags by end of 2008.

America needs to too. It really sucks that we are behind on these simple things. Getting anything green done around here it is like pulling teeth!

The thinking: "if there is no money in it for me, then I do not care!"On Whole Foods to stop giving out plastic grocery bags by Earth Day posted 1 year, 10 months ago 18 Responses

we are very ego-centric

I loved watching this program, as it showed that really it is not the earth that needs us, but really we need the earth. We seem to forget that. We are so involved in our self-centric and ego-centric that we treat all other life form and the planet like sh!t.

Its humans that need to realize that we are not some great indestructible beings that get to rule everything, infact we are very week and depended on this earth.
On History Channel explores a world without humans posted 1 year, 10 months ago 7 Responses

Relocate the sea lions

what about relocating the sea lions to a different place of the waters?

These would not require death of the sea lions.
The Samlon would populate more.
The dam would be functional.On Federal officials suggest killing sea lions to protect salmon posted 1 year, 10 months ago 40 Responses

Listen - Kevin Michael.

1. As much as I love watching South Park, I do not use it as reference for my life! Instead I trying using report from the UN, or any other official well researched documentation, as starting point, then I read the opposing argument and then evaluate/analysis the situation.

2. All the things you mentioned you do to be green, I also do them. - so what's you point? - do you want a cookie for being responsible?

3. For you its just few sea lions, but Kevin a "few here and there" results in a lot of death to a eco-system we do not really understand. Kevin the eco system is far more complex then we seem to understand.

4. Where does the "kill just a few" stop? Would you like to know how many species have become extinct just the lat ten years and how many are on the verge? Maybe those tragedies started with "Kill just a few" mentally.

5. Eating salmon is not grantee goodness for my heart. Nor is it a grantee to make me live longer. Actually Kevin the best thing for my heart is to feel kindness for all living creatures, (humans and animals).

6. You are right Kevin, I am flying "off the handle" because if I asked politely and nicely "can we please not kill more innocent animals", do you really think people would listen? - I doubt it. - there is so much information around us, that sometimes the only way to get a message across is to be a little strong. - Look at current political debates. Do you think people would vote for a candidate that "showed no passion for what they believed in"?

7. Why is it Kevin that my few words seemed so "intimidating to you", yet you are consenting the death of animals that have never harmed you? - Why is it okay for you to be so sensitive, and yet have no consideration to the pain of a creature that is killed? Where is the justification in that?

thats great!

When popular companies starting making these investments, it will create a sense of competition. In this country competition has created the way for many new ventures. If the new ventures are eco friendly that is just great! - Good luck Google!On Google invests in solar thermal company eSolar posted 1 year, 10 months ago 17 Responses

Bush - bad for the - well everyone really!

Bush - every short - sighted! I hope the new President will be more educated about the world we live in!

Also I heard that the Bush administration allowed "canned hurting" to be legal, - if anyone has facts on this please let me know.

Thank youOn Bush exempts Navy from environmental law in ongoing sonar saga posted 1 year, 10 months ago 9 Responses

public transport.

If we used public transport more, there would be less crisis for the oil short-age and the environment. I have lived in the UK, where Public transport is used very well, and it also helps people be healthier by walking to and from the bus/train stops.

But here in the US - out side of major cities - public transport is seen as a poor mans option, and so often I see many SUV's/large trucks with only one person sitting in traffic.

I car pool - with two other people! its great for saving money, great for the earth and great for traffic!
On Prius: Green or greenwash? posted 1 year, 10 months ago 36 Responses

Common sense seems too difficult to practice!

Ron Michael,

I agree with your last statement that "hopefully if you are an adult you've learned that you can't trust ads or marketing to tell you the truth". Its very surprising that many people - even adults have do believe those unhealthy fast food ad's -.

Recently I was watching TV in the evening, - prime time - and I saw that most of the commercials were showing foods that were - crap! I see so many American adults, eating fast foods for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Then they complain about health issues. - gosh, maybe if they did not treat their bodies as a dumping ground for foods that have no value, their bodies would not be in such a bad sharp!

Common sense seems too difficult to practice!On 'Men's Health' uncovers some real whoppers posted 1 year, 10 months ago 5 Responses

proud of the legal and personal actions.

As sad as it, often the only way people stop doing horrid things is through legal and "militant" actions. Of course telling the Japanese whale hunters, in a kind and gentle way has not worked, as they have killed thousands of whales. So sometimes stronger actions have to be taken.

For those positive stronger actions, - thank you to all the people that are trying to bring about a positive change and to the Aussi government! - now lets stop killing the joei's!
On Protesters converge on Japan's whaling fleet; Aussie court rules Japan hunt illegal posted 1 year, 10 months ago 2 Responses

About time!

Its about time! I think it's just funny that it is taking so long to find alternatives! - the auto and energy companies make such high profits, yet their dedications to finding enviro friendly options are not explored!

Lets find a alternative that is good for us and good for the earth!
On Automakers unveil greener vehicles at Detroit auto show posted 1 year, 10 months ago 3 Responses