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Efficiency and Conservation
Building efficiency and conservation improvements, remodels, and modifications are a option that would put local people to work on local projects. Maybe even fund local organizations to hire engineers, develop appropriate local strategies for conservation, secure a work force, train them and make them available to the community to do such jobs.On American Progress' 'Green Recovery' plan posted 12 months ago 21 Responses
Welcome To Southland DR
Welcome to So Cal David. Now what is this thing you say in the title, something called "rain." Sounds familar, something from a long time ago. I will have to Google it and see if that might jog my memory.
Be careful with fire while visiting down here.On L.A. bereft of clouds, rain; climate change the culprit? posted 2 years ago 3 Responses
Good News
It is so refreshing to see recognition that leaving power supply development to the market is a fool's strategy.On Wind power installations set to soar 63 percent this year posted 2 years ago 6 Responses
Storage Is Critical
As a small 600 MW operator of the grid I must say that storage is vital to operation of the grid. We, the people, need storage so that we can take in more renewables than something on the order of 33 percent. Having simply EV, only electric vehicles, will not provide the storage that is needed.
This is why a smart grid is so necessary. We must coordinate the delivery capability and need for electricity. Storage helps us align that delivery capabilty with the need.
I suspect that there are some economic inefficiencies here. In other words, I think that utility that serves the hybrid plug in vehicle during the peak periods can contribute a positive cash flow to the owner in terms of energy or cash, only problem is I am not sure of the value of such flow. I suspect it is significant.On 100 households to test out plug-in hybrid Pruises in California posted 2 years ago 3 Responses
Shortages and Rationing
While markets work as long as supply and demand are within the linear operating range of supply and demand. I fear that if supplies are short enough that reality will result in a rationing reaction.
I do not yet believe that Americans wll stand by and let people reach that depth of desparation simply because the poor can not find the money to pay the price for a product that has been driven to outrageously high level in order to send a price signal to the masses.
I think that the power of potentially limiting power or water is under-rated or has been largely ignored. I see no reason to continue to feed power and water to those who chose to be inefficient dispite their ability to pay.
We all must, especially those whith sufficient resources, must practice efficiency and energy conservation. On CBPP launches a climate equity program posted 2 years, 1 month ago 5 Responses
Smart Grid
A number of utilities are taking this step to upgrade the system. My approach has been to employ fiber optics to the substation, secure Wi-Fi to the customers via street lighting standards, and then Wi-Fi, 800 MHz mesh, or even broadbank over powerline low voltage to the meter or other intelligent devices.
With Wi-Fi in the streets other applications beyond electric power data gathering and control are possible.
On We need a grid as smart as our bombs posted 2 years, 1 month ago 1 ResponseConvert Lanes
Converting lanes that are now used for motor vehicles to lanes for human powered vehicles would improve safety, save energy, and reduce emissions, plus provide the humans powering such vehicles vital exercise.On Commuters in Seattle avoid congested roads by driving less posted 2 years, 1 month ago 5 Responses
Reduce the Number of Lanes
Reducing the number of lanes may have even greater effects on reducing GHG.On Widening roads does not, in fact, reduce emissions posted 2 years, 1 month ago 14 Responses
We May Have to Consider Municipal Food Products
It may be time to consider a limited venture into food products by municipalities. Granted in cities like Burbank and Glendale California we have the resources to do an effective job in producing quality food products,as long as we focus on local needs and tastes and can do a substantiable development. It is worth consideration. But smaller municipalities in Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Vermont, Iowa, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wiscousin, and other states with strong municipal roots may want to consider such action in conjunction with their local farm organizations.
BTW, Wonder Bread shut down in Glendale today. It may be a sign of the times. They blame the union, but they are big enough to overcome union issues, hell their bread sell for less than their competition.
Any ideas of good food products you might consider be developed by your local city?On How to stick it to the ice-cream Man posted 2 years, 3 months ago 22 Responses
Interesting Topic
In addition to the voltage reduction it is possible to reduce overal demand by reducing the frequency. Frequency reduction has the addition benefit of adding power into the grid. The energy returned to the grid is related to the mass of the spinning turbines and rotors connected to the grid, which can be quite substantial. Typically a system expresses this term in units of MW per .1 Hz deviation.On Keeping the air conditioners running in muggy Pennsylvania posted 2 years, 3 months ago 3 Responses
Ice Storage Is Cool
New buildings should employ thermal storage. This should become part of any new building standards.
Efficiency should be become as mandatory as renewable standards and enforceable at the time a building is significantly remodeled or title passes.
In the cases of extreme energy inefficiency I have thought about having the utility simply fund the improvements from rates and making the improvements mandatory.On Two crazy environmental stories via podcast posted 2 years, 3 months ago 7 Responses
That's Right Gar
Price signals are not enough. We will need some price signals, but in order to be really effective the motivations have to be big enough to get people to change. For example, for some the rebate for a new refrig may need to be $1800, for a new air conditioner $5000. But even at these rates the cost is less or comparable to supply side storage solutions.
I continue to seek supply side storage options, but the demand side options are real as well. It is amazing how many 1970 era air conditioners we have in town. One can easily shave 6 to 7 kW off the peak of a single house (3000 square foot house) by upgrading to current state of the art, and that is without even touching the insulation.
An example of AC storage is the Ice Bear a residential ice storage unit. http://www.ice-energy.com/ , these units allow the air conditioner to be turned off during peak periods and just circulate cool air using air. The cost of these units is about $3000 per kW and it can reduce losses on the lines.
With a smart grid one can determine where these units are most needed and target those places. But one needs the information available via a real time metering system rather than the read once a month method we employ today.
On Information is power posted 2 years, 4 months ago 24 ResponsesDemand Response for Real
I have been using demand response to control power supply costs since 1977 for many reasons. Over the that time I have seen many of the frustrations that many of you speak of. I have become cool to price response. I have had more success with demand response. However, I have never met much success in the residential sector with demand response.
Gar is correct, storage is a cool approach. There are load side storage approach as well. For example, St. Joesph Medical Center here in Burbank recently built a Cancer center. In that building they incorporated thermal storage so that the utilty could shift the thermal load off the peak. The cost to put that storage in during the design stage of the building was only $125,000. For the 1000 kW of storage that provides no supply side approach can equal such a low cost.
Turning swimming pool motors off during peak load periods is another effective means to reduce peak loads. We also shift water pumping to off peak periods.
The Smart Grid can help better identify the loads during peak periods so those loads can be better understood and reduced. I think the time for smart grids has come. We are begining the development of a Smart Grid system that uses Wi-Fi technology to read the meters and control the devices.On Information is power posted 2 years, 4 months ago 24 Responses
National Geo
Probably a good point. What did you think of the major article on the melting of the Greenland icesheets? Does such an article count for anything?On Shell and Nat Geo team up to create 5.4 million pieces of trash posted 2 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
Free Bus Service So Cal
A number of cities in Southern California have free bus service. Burbank, Glendale, and Pasadena all offer extensive bus service in their communities for free. Free bus service is seen as a public good in that it reduces congestion, promotes safety, reduces pollution, and reduces the need for parking.
Replacing street parking with bike lanes would be the next big step so that people can bike instead of taking the buses.
Cars are the enemy of urban lifeOn A perspective from Eric Mann posted 2 years, 4 months ago 29 Responses
A Little Cool
"We're done" just might leave the other person with a wrong impression. Another approach would be to to cap the conservation with something on the order of "It has been a pleasure talking with you, glad we had this time to talk", then give the person time to state a similar expression and then excuse yourself.On Well, not that dirty posted 2 years, 4 months ago 16 Responses
Revenue Neutral
Why must a carbon tax be revenue neutral? Is it even possible to be revenue neutral, as when it comes to giving the money back or reducing another tax it is in effect like paying someone else or giving someone a tax credit and most likely there will be some motive behind such credit or payment, I doubt it will be random.
In the end I think that the carbon tax will not be revenue neutral. It will collect money, the money will be part of the revenue of the state or federal government collecting it and there will be budget outlay that will spend the money in the form of payment or tax credits to people, agencies, or companies.On Picking apart an argument against carbon taxes posted 2 years, 5 months ago 22 Responses
Thank You Sunflower
I would be happy to help you with some of that engineering stuff. I will post my email on my profile. You have some good ideas, I would be happy to help you dig through them some more.On Picking apart an argument against carbon taxes posted 2 years, 5 months ago 22 Responses
Good Point Re: IPH
I have not seriously consider IPH for plants in the past, let alone for solar, but in order to get the extra efficiency it may be worth the effort in working out the operational and financial complexities of aligning the operational needs of the processes as well as the cost of capital issues between an industrial user and a utility user.
I tend to like the Mohave better than Kern as Kern does not get the sun the Mohave gets In addition, Kern lacks the transmission to get power out as well. Can't do much about the sun or the fog and unfortunately the Kern transmission issues have no viable opton yet. In the Mohave it may be possible to get a site near Adelanto, Lugo, or Deavers stations and there is the proposed Green Path Project to the Salton Sea. I think something can be worked out, it is question of time and willingness to work through the details.
As an alternative to the IPH, perhaps a steam cycle turbine with an organic cycle turbine for the bottom.
Sunflower do you know of an engineering firm that can deliver on the less than a $1 a watt for a plant. Washington, CH2M Hill, RW Beck, and Black Veatch all talk much higher than a $1 a watt, more like $4. Even as high aa $2 would be good too for solar, especially if it could be done in conjunction with a geothermal plant. Geothermal is estimated to be $3 a watt by several sources.On Picking apart an argument against carbon taxes posted 2 years, 5 months ago 22 Responses
Replace Coal Fired Generation
As long as the new plants replace coal fired generation who cares if the agency continues to exist. They need only fund the building of plants which can be done by those equiped to build such plants.
For example, take the San Juan plant in New Mexico and the municipal utilities in California that take such power. Those utilities include Redding, Santa Clara, Modesto, Los Angeles, Glendale, Riverside, and Anaheim. Build a similar sized renewable project in California Mohave Desert to replace that energy. They then back off, or shut down, their take from San Juan and instead take the energy from California renewable project, paying the renewable project their marginal savings.On Picking apart an argument against carbon taxes posted 2 years, 5 months ago 22 Responses
180 Billion Is Big
I would expect a 180 billion a year public works program would be bigger than a simple subsidy, in ten years it would pretty much eliminate coal if over the years a variety of renewable technology were deployed. The solar trough is an example of an expensive but practical and proven technology. Rather than being a subsidy make it a market where competeing technologies compete for funding to build real live power plants that will replace coal. Fund the program from carbon tax. In the end the carbon will be reduced.On Picking apart an argument against carbon taxes posted 2 years, 5 months ago 22 Responses
Use Taxes To Build Solar
It seems a carbon tax, say $30 a ton of CO2 or 33 cent tax per gallon on gasoline, could generate sufficient money to build solar trough, geothermal, and wind energy.
At 20 million barrels of oil per day and 33 cent a gallon, that looks like it would generate a $100 billion a year for new renewables. Do the same with a coal tax, and that would generate on the order of $80 billion a year.
At $4000 a kilowatt, we could build 45,000MW of solar trough per year for 180,000,000,000.On Picking apart an argument against carbon taxes posted 2 years, 5 months ago 22 Responses
Audience
I forget that the standard audience for discussion purposes is a class room. I my experience people hate to treated as if they are children and respond better when one gives them a chance to think for themselves. I realize that this is generally not the case, the typical model for audiences is that of children.On Public presentations on global warming -- not as easy as you might think posted 2 years, 6 months ago 22 Responses
Do Neither
I support the do neither but I am not ready to give up on the study of CSS. However, I seek a realistic view of the true cost of CSS so that it can be used as a comparision to renewables.On A new report posted 2 years, 6 months ago 39 Responses
Whiskerfish, Thank You
Thank you, very useful resource.On Public presentations on global warming -- not as easy as you might think posted 2 years, 6 months ago 22 Responses
The Challenge Of PowerPoint and Keynote
I enjoy the life Gore put into Keynote with his presentation and believe that Powerpoint holds even more potential. Unfortunately, it does so much with so little that the so little wins.
I wish I was talented enough to do that with PowerPoint or Keynote that those of Gore's skills can do. Rather I must focus on one slide at a time and simply explain the hell out of it.On Public presentations on global warming -- not as easy as you might think posted 2 years, 6 months ago 22 Responses
Why Our Behaviors Must Change
Within the last generation of the human race we have dramatically increased our energy use and how we chose to prepare our meals. Globally the world is seeking to replicate our behavior. Unfortunately such behavior is not stable, it can not be maintained unless we come up with what appears to be an unbelieveable adaptation response.
Should people seek to maintain this high energy standard of living under increasingly high cost energy they will meet economic resistance. People will seek to maintain life, and a life as close to that which they understand as they may be able. If they see a means to reduced energy use that provides them a life which they can enjoy they will adapt to that life style.
By making small adjustments over time we will better discover how we might best live with less energy and with better food and may be an improved social life by relating move with our neighbors. On Start with CFLs, and let the lightbulb go on posted 2 years, 6 months ago 25 Responses
Isn't That the Truth
Those who are boring do tend to accuse others of lacking either creativity or engagement. I hope I am not one of those, but that is others to judge. I chose to leave that to the critics, in the meanwhile I will live my life and make real that which I envision. I find entertaining others a means to an end in my work and a great experience in my relations with my friends. I wonder what might be said of those who suggest others lack creativity or engagement. I suspect they are probably very insightful souls who seek to correct such rude behavior. A trait which I truly regret I may at times express. I am sorry of such failures.
The fault, my dear Caniscandia, lies not in our audience but in ourselves. Dullards are a result of our inability to express rather than their ability to listen.
Regarding linear expression. After a decade of Powerpoint presentations many have become bored with the predictiable nature of Powerpoint presentations. When a person can forsee the next point and how it develops it is absorbed in a manner that is incremental. I think it is that incremental nature of Powerpoint with which I rebel. While generally effective, sometimes one needs to inspire others to move beyond the incremental. Further, I think that people like to be moved beyond the incremental.
Change occurs in the non-linear region. The mistake, the chance, the whatever is where the future resides. In that vision the audience can create its own future. We who communicate can only stimulate that response and that is a gamble, not a science.On Public presentations on global warming -- not as easy as you might think posted 2 years, 6 months ago 22 Responses
All We Are Saying is Give Reduction A Chance
5% reduction per year is good rule. Let it start with each of us.
Start driving less, car pooling more, and enjoying the variety of temperature in your everyday life, like cold in the winter and hot in the summer. Eat less, eat local, and eat fresh. Ride your bike not only for fun and exercies but to get the groceries and replace fossil fueled trips. Enjoy social interaction with your neighbors rather than people on the other side of town. Drive less, use less, enjoy more.
Big challenge, but you need only do 5% per year.
On Start with CFLs, and let the lightbulb go on posted 2 years, 6 months ago 25 Responses
Ironic
Why can't explanations of how to better communicate briefly be as short as they recommend other presentations be or as entertaining?
I am not sure I understand how Keynote is better than PowerPoint. I use Keynote, I like Keynote, but I also use PowerPoint if I have to use my computer at work.
Communications is non-linear. Not that linear is necessarily bad, but it is boring. Discovery, like communications, is non-linear. Helping people understand the discovery is good communications.On Public presentations on global warming -- not as easy as you might think posted 2 years, 6 months ago 22 Responses
Burbank , CA
This last year Burbank Water and Power hired a NY polling firm to survey its residential customers. Most of its customer said they would be willing to pay $15 a month more for reduced carbon emission electricity.
However, I don't think it will take that much to develop wind and solar over the next 15 years.On Reality checking the polls posted 2 years, 6 months ago 43 Responses
Soft Shell Crab
Seem to see very little soft shell crab this May. In the past there seems it has been more widely available.On Top scientists appeal to WTO posted 2 years, 6 months ago 5 Responses
Competition
It seems in my experience that as competition increases for a job two things happen, one, is that more and more people will do whatever it takes to get the job, and two, those who determine what that position is paid decide to pay as little as possible because they have the candidates. NASA seems to have maximized this effect. They have eliminated anyone with character and values and have only those who will do anything to get the top position. Unfortunately, NASA has been in such a state for far too long.On Hard to believe he's part of the Bush administration! posted 2 years, 6 months ago 24 Responses
Nice
Practical bike and good quality stuff. My bike is similar, but not motorized hub or battery. Worth considering.
On Ultimate Seattle hybrid plug-in posted 2 years, 6 months ago 25 ResponsesVolt Good FIrst Step
This is good news and I am glad that GM is taking this step. I hope Ford is not far behind. As Gar Lipow points out the Volt is only the first. And looking back on history and what the first of any new car looked like it is not too bad of a first start.
At work we got after market plug in Prius and it a fine car. Well over a 100 miles per gallon with a 20 mile one way commute.
On Looks like the plug-in might actually happen posted 2 years, 6 months ago 55 ResponsesTax Revenue
I understand that as a carbon tax is a tax and it is a tax that is expected to reduce other taxes it would be assigned to the House Ways and Means Committee for its consideration. This committee would not be expected to continue a policy of issuing debt to cover revenue needs when it has carbon tax revenue. In other words it would not reduce taxes if the tax base in total is not sufficient to pay the obligations of the government.On Conservative critique of the carbon tax posted 2 years, 6 months ago 8 Responses
Cap and Cheat
The cap is the thing that does the work in reducing carbon dioxide. The concept of trade is another. One who trades brings to mind another word, traitor.
The most common approach to trading emission credits is t to move the production to another place and import the stuff. A cap and trade policy is a policy that leads to cap and off-shore.
We will need import restrictions that heavily tax or restrict imports from countries that fail manage CO2 emissions if we are to prevent the cheaters.On Getting something done is the priority posted 2 years, 6 months ago 10 Responses
Thank You, Good Reference
I am quite familar with EPRI. I see from the article you reference they have been making some advances on those solid state transformers. Looks like it still is not ready for customers trials. But I will keep an eye on them.
What I thought interesting is that this single device can produce a wide variety of electricity. It may have interesting applications on the renewable side. For example, as an alternative to an inverter on a solar panel. As a step-up transformer for a wind turbine.
As an alternative to an inverter it may be able to make it possible to use with a solar panel (with a battery bank) to provide power to a residence during an outage. On Massachusetts is going to blow posted 2 years, 6 months ago 9 Responses
Smart Meters
Thanks GreyFlcn for the smart meter references. I am very interested in those as well. I have a program underway now at our utility that will use the Itron Smart Meters and links them to an energy database using Wi-Fi. The conceptual design for the Wi-Fi just got done this last week.
Meters are the devices that measure the energy used by a customer while transformers change the voltage and current of the electricity delivered to the customer. Typically in the United States electricity is transformed from 12,470 voltage to 240 within a few hundred feet of the customer's service entrance. Transformers are linear devices that use magnetic flux and coils as the means to transform electricity.
There has been talk of solid state transformers in the past but I have not heard much of them in recent years. The concept was to employ solid state switches to reduce the losses of transformers and reduce higher order harmonics for cleaner power. I suspect that by adding a processor and network capability they might better fit into distribution automation systems, outage management systems, and transformer load management systems. I just have never seen any of these devices as utility grade products. If they do exist I would be interested in trying some, provided they can talk Wi-Fi. On Massachusetts is going to blow posted 2 years, 6 months ago 9 Responses
Transformers
Where would a utility acquire smart, networked, solid-state transformers for distribution applications?On Massachusetts is going to blow posted 2 years, 6 months ago 9 Responses
Ummmm
My math regarding the summer rates for power in the Palm Springs area is not in my post and with that the associated pay back.
In any case, I was out in the Palm Springs area today looking more into that with the local utility. The reason it does not fit in is that with the rebate a customer must sign up for time of use service. As the rebate is capped that makes the deal uneconomic.
This kind of makes the rebate deal ineffective.
On Making a market for solar in Eugene, Oregon posted 2 years, 6 months ago 7 ResponsesNet Metering California Style
At least one meter installed to read the net usage of the residential customer with that meter and any other meter installed at the cost of the utility. No additional charge, hell there is no additional cost, it is just a meter read.
I think this form of net metering with a nice rebate is the way to go. I am surprised how few people take advantage of this program here in California.On Making a market for solar in Eugene, Oregon posted 2 years, 6 months ago 7 Responses
Security
An attribute I have liked with this concept is its ability to provide phyisical protection to a downtown area like Los Angeles or Century City or a specific facility. If a number of these are placed into operation the cables can support a mesh to make it difficult for airplanes to pass.On Neat posted 2 years, 6 months ago 31 Responses
Is This A Good Deal?
Would you rather have 15 cents a kWh or $3 a watt rebate with net metering? I think I would rather the rebate and the net metering.On Making a market for solar in Eugene, Oregon posted 2 years, 6 months ago 7 Responses
It Is A Shame
To bad that Robert Rapier thought that this process would be such a savior and that he feels that his life force depends so much upon it being successful. I hope that he is larger than this set back. This is experimental work, we should tie our furtures to such experiments.On Crap, another means of continuing business as usual failing to survive scrutiny posted 2 years, 6 months ago 11 Responses
Transmission & Distribution Losses
Our transmission system does not piss away 20 to 40 of the power sent sent down the transmission. That is silly. As an electrical engineer I can tell you that if such losses were half that value we could not maintain voltages within the close limits that everyone enjoys in North America, yes including Mexico. Neither Mexico nor Canada have anything like 20% losses in transmission and distribution, on the average.
Now I would like to point out that on peak the losses can be large. I would agree that the losses during peak could be as high as 20% but not as large as 40%. The transmission grid is in sorry shape and resistance to new transmission construction is a serious issue. Distribution on the other hand amounts to upgrading current lines.
It is important that peak usage be limited. We must curb peak usage and reduce total peak demand. This means moving any loads that can be moved from the heat of the day to other times in the same day.
On And if not, why not? posted 2 years, 6 months ago 20 Responses
Working Less, Spending Less, Wanting Less
It sounds like love to me.
Love displaces work, gets us to spend less (on ourselves), and reduces the wanting of more material things. Love of the earth fills us with wonder of its beauty and richness of all that it does and could provide in sight, sound, comfort, and delight.
Religion is best served with love. When religion is without love it is as Godless as hell and the difference can not be found by the objective soul.
When we free ourselves to true love we open ourselves to less work, less spending, and less want.
Loss of love can be too much of nothing and that can make a man feel ill at ease. Freedom can be just another word for nothing left to lose and freedom ain't nothing it it ain't free, might also be such a loss of love or of faith. In any case digging deeper into work, spending more, or wanting more is not going to be as meaningful as finding hope, love, and faith.
Environmentalism is about that, yes it is.On Green the Pope way posted 2 years, 6 months ago 29 Responses
Cap on Trading Price
While the key thing with cap and trade is how the distribution of the initial allocation is made the trading mechanism is the next important matter. In the 2000 energy crisis in California many utilities in Southern California ran out of NOx RECLAIM credits and could not operate. So we went to the RECLAIM market to buy NOx credits in response to the electricity shortfall. The cost of those credits went to unbelieveable high prices. Had it made possible to pay a fee or tax instead of being forced to buy from a failed market (a market where supply fails to meet demand)it would have capped the price of the RECLAIM NOx credits to the tax rate.On And if not, why not? posted 2 years, 6 months ago 20 Responses
Good Measure
Any one who believes global warming is a serious matter should support this legislation at the Federal level. We have to begin the process of valuing CO2 emission no matter what the source or how dependent a region is upon an energy source.On Could the unthinkable become thinked? posted 2 years, 6 months ago 2 Responses
Crazy, Back to the ?
Make the point by point attack on the idiots who thing that global warming is a non-event. While this might seem to be silly it is surprising how just keeping on keeping on can be effective.
Keep on keeping on.On Vote! posted 2 years, 6 months ago 96 Responses
Who Cares
CAFE has long since been an standard that does not have a reach. It is like the two minute hundred yard dash or the 16 minute mile. Who cares? My stupid Ford Five Hundred that I drive just over 4000 miles a year can achieve the goal of CAFE.
On The logjam is breaking posted 2 years, 6 months ago 17 ResponsesLike It Could Be The 60s
Imagine if this guy who was just Vice President of the United States runs for President and gets beat by such a narrow margin that recounting the votes in this one state makes all the difference, and as a result the other party wins and takes the office for the next eight years. During this time we get engaged in war that we can not win nor gracefully exit. The country becomes divided. This young 30 something conservative thinker, Kevin Phillips, comes up with a plan for taking over the south. The Vice President who got beat in 1960 hires him, adopts that strategy and wins the presidency. Phillips says times change about every 40 years, it is a cycle of American politics. And at that time air and water pollution were being hotly debated as to the impact humans had on those basic elements.
Will Gore be our Nixon? Will there be a Midwest strategy that will return the Ohio River states to the progressive fold? On Chait on the netroots posted 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Responses
SC Energy
I am the technology guy for the utility I work for. We are having SC Energy do a plug in conversion of a Prius so we can test it out. I am interested in the storage Vehicle to Grid stuff we have been talking about.On The lost art of conversation posted 2 years, 7 months ago 36 Responses
Change Is In the Air
I suspect the fuel source of that plant change within four years.On Once a year, the press notices that politics is bad for the environment posted 2 years, 7 months ago 3 Responses
Thanks
Cool meeting notes. Sounds like you had a nice day. I went over to Glendale and helped a friend put a solar panel up on his roof. It will produce 80% of his electrical needs. We talked about the killings. Seems like more of those with significant mental problems are being incorporated into society than days gone by. We also noticed that many of those windows that they broke through were not double pane. You would think a technology school would have had double pane.
I never noticed the deal about the pledge of allegiance to the dominant religion, I am surprised it is not written down, I woud have guessed it was. It is such a formal practice, I would have thought it written down. I have noticed that there has been a lot of rain in Seattle. The drought continues in Los Angeles, even though this was the rainiest week in a year. While it has recently been very winter like in New York, up util like January 7 it was unusally nice. Likewise, it was a nice winter in Minneapolis this year, but there were some pretty bad storms. Getting to be more bad storms it seems, but on the whole the temps are up.
I had breakfast with some of members of the Pasadena Mac Users Group today. Understand the next Mac operating system will not be out until this fall. We Mac Users sure know what it feels like when you do not believe in the dominate God. Seems like everyone is blindly following Windows. Mac even plays Windows, there is nothing magic there. It is hard to turn people around.
Glad to hear the Prius drivers in Seattle are getting better mileage on the highway. That Civic Hybrid does very well too. I am getting a plug in hybird this next week, unless it is late again. Looking forward to the milage that one will have.
Have a happy Earth Day.On The lost art of conversation posted 2 years, 7 months ago 36 Responses
State Waiver
I would not expect the current administration to give any state a waiver for greenhouse gas regulations. On You heard it here first posted 2 years, 8 months ago 8 Responses
Pat Wood Was Bush's Boy
I note an above reference that Pat Wood did Order 888. Actually that came about as a directive in the Energy Policy Act of 1992 and the FERC Chair was Elizabeth Molher. In my view 888 was a progessive reform.
When Bush became President he installed Pat Wood as FERC Chairman in 2001. I do not think Clinton would have put a person like Pat Wood in charge.On It's not the view: it's the vision posted 2 years, 9 months ago 132 Responses
Hydrogen For Lighter Than Air Craft
Another approach might be to use hydrogen as a lifting gas and then electric motors and pv panels to propel the craft.On Now and later posted 2 years, 9 months ago 21 Responses
Selfless vs Self Interest
Helping stop the Guinea worm, feeding the hungry, and caring for the sick are examples of selfless acts that kind people do in order to help others.
Converting to biofuels, intergrating wind into power grids, and making the air cleaner are things that people do that are in their self interests. It allows them to keep on doing that which they have grown accustom.
A significant portion of environmentalism is about our own self interest. People are getting interested in global warming because the weather supports fears that there may be a problem here that could affect us.
I think as the self interest associated with global warming continue to be understood more widely, that support for climate action will, similarily, continue to grow. I do not believe that it will be as easy to develop interest associated with the Guinea worm as it has been to develop interest with clean air.
Things that may actually affect us are more motivating than things that primarily affect others. Environmentalism is not the charity that feeding the hungry, caring for the sick, and clothing the naked are. I can understand why the selfless act might be viewed as the more noble, and in this case, both are progressive and their interests generally aligned.On How do you choose yours? posted 2 years, 9 months ago 54 Responses
Wind Generator Net Output
Wind generation has auxilary loads as do other forms of generation. Wind generation has some special voltage and reactive power requirements that make interconnection more complex than steam turbine generator or combustion turbine generators. However, these requirements are by no means excessive.
In any case, federal regulations require that wind generators use FERC accounting standards and EIA requires that energy reporting be according to uniform standards. Failure to report such energy production is now subject to regulatory fines and even criminal charges under the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
Wind generation output is that electrical output after all auxilary loads and waving shaping losses are taken into account. I am very familar with the energy metering associated with power plants including wind farms.On It's seductive -- and wrong posted 2 years, 9 months ago 54 Responses
Underground DC Transmission
Amazngdrx DC transmission can be done underground, it is virtually impossible with 500kV AC as reactors are required every 25 miles or so. DC faces the problems associated with in-rush current on start up and then harmonics associated with the grid. These things can be engineered out with switched reactors. I think for now we would have to use oil filled cable, but there has not been much DC underground yet.
As an alternative I believe the better approach is to convert existing AC lines to DC. The worst transmission areas in the USA is in the New York to Washington DC area and Southern California. Studies are underway to determine how to best address these transmission needs, however, no one seems to be looking at DC with a serious eye.
I think DC should be considered.On It's seductive -- and wrong posted 2 years, 9 months ago 54 Responses
I Think David Nailed It
The steps we are taking at the public side are weak. It gives the impression than the this can be turned around with some simple actions when in reality in order to reduce our global impact we are going to make drastic changes. Prices are going to go up. I believe people are aware of this and are prepared to pay in order to increase renewable energy and reduce depency on oil. It will cost more, but it is a good investment in the future.On Everything is lame posted 2 years, 10 months ago 68 Responses
Fire
I grew up with wild fires, am not so sure their effect is simply neutral. I think that to think fire to be positive is a bit too optimistic. However, I do not think fire is bad think. Fire happens.
However, I do not support arson.On Let's put bison back on the praries posted 2 years, 10 months ago 26 Responses
Key to Leadership
I have found that it is amazing what one can achieve if one is willing to give the credit to another.
Further I have found that it is amazing what one can achieve if one is willing to give the profit of a concept to another.
It may sound silly or foolish, but in the end it makes very little difference. But if you are willing to give up credit and even profit, the self satisfaction is strong.On Let's put bison back on the praries posted 2 years, 10 months ago 26 Responses
My Pet Project
Amazngdrx you have described my pet project, using dc transmission with storage to move wind energy across the country.
Burbank Water and Power together with other municipal utilities in Southern California jointly operate the two major dc lines in the country, the Pacific Intertie and the Southern Transmission System. Currently these lines only operate point to point. I am considering how they might work in a networked fashion.
We considered this twenty years ago when we were planning the Mead Phoneix/Mead Adalanto transmission projects as that project was orginally proposed to be DC as well, unfortunately we were not able to get enought participation, so it was build at an AC line but with the capability to be converted to DC in the future. At that time DC to AC conversion technology was more expensive than it is today. Further the technology at that time made networking DC to AC conversion problematic. If these conversion processes are not set up right they can have severe and rapid impacts on the regional AC transmission grid.
The project we considered for storage back in those days was a project called the Spring Canyon Pumped Storage Project. It was a project upstream from Hoover that was to have been a 2000MW pumped storage project. The project never got beyond the planning phases because of its impacts. Pumped storage, while a simple concept, increases evaporation, erosion, and impacts wildlife.
The energy storage system I am studying at this time is using compressed air for energy storage. The most current project under development is in Iowa and has been lead by the Iowa Association of Municipal Utilities. By using compressed air from underground storage to provide the oxider for a combustion turbine the power turbine's power can be all used to turn an electricity generator rather than a generator and an air compressor. Interestingly, it takes about twice as much power to turn the air compressor. In other words, a 45MW LM6000 combustion turbine could put out over 110 MW with the same amount of fuel if it used compressed air from storage rather than compressing the air in real time with a compressor.
The concept is to compress the air using wind energy when it is windy and there is not sufficient load and then employ the compressed air during those time when the wind energy is less than the need.
Another approach, which is interesting but I don't know how practical, is to use the wind turbines to turn air compressors that feed compressed air into a pipeline network much like the current natural gas pipeline system. At the load end of the pipeline turbo expanders would drive electrical generators as required to meet load. During times of low electrical use the compress air would "pack" in the network of pipelines and then "unpack" during times of high electrical generation.
The thermal reactions associated with gas compression and expandsion make for some interesting thermal considerations in this modeling. One must use the resulting heat from compression in a productive manner and one must manage the cooling from the expandsion during de-compression as well.
I hope to have some more details on this project in May for the American Electric Power Conference in Chicago, but it may be another year away. I think this approach has is the best way to move wind energy throughout the country and match generation with usage.On Let's put bison back on the praries posted 2 years, 10 months ago 26 Responses
South Dakota State University
SDSU on January 9 of this year had a seminar on substantiable land practices. Susan Andrews of the USDA Natural Resource and Conservation Service Soil Quality National Technology Development Team presented a paper called Mitigating the Negative Effects of Residue Removal on Soil Quality that spoke of the amount harvest that should remain with the field in order to maintain productivity and CO2 sequester. At the same seminar Gregg Carlson, David Clay, and Sharon Clay present papers on maintaining soil productivity relative to biomass production. Tom Schumacher and Doug Malo of SDSU also presented good papers on soil carbon.
I have the papers from the conference but I do not have links to them. My cousin is working with them to determine how to better manage his production on his ranch in SD. I will see if they have a link to those presentations.On Let's put bison back on the praries posted 2 years, 10 months ago 26 Responses
Must Be Realistic In Scope
The prairie grasses can provide fuel and store CO2, but there are limits. 1 to 2 tons of CO2 per acre can be stored in the soil each year provided you let the grass stay with the soil. If the grass is converted to fuel it does not keep the CO2 in the soil. According to the USDA there are 587 million acres of grassland in the United States. That can hold and does hold considerable CO2. Efforts to use this grassland for switchgrass or rapeseed will require a substantial amount of those grasses be left with the soil if we are to maintain the current sequestering these grasslands currently provide.
We generate a lot of CO2, 6400 million tons. These grasslands that are currently sequestering are already part of the carbon cycle. We can only count the additional amount they may be able to sequester by growing more grass and keeping the grass with the soil.
The land will not be able to both store CO2 and provide fuel. If we chose fuel we run the risk of reducing the sequestering that these grasslands currently provide and will increase our effective CO2 emissions.
In the end we have to stop the burning.On Let's put bison back on the praries posted 2 years, 10 months ago 26 Responses
Sounds LIke CARB Are Under Reaching
At Monday's California Air Resesources Board meeting on AB 32 they have targeted only a 10% reduction in CO2 emissions. Sounds like Bush is doing them better. I suspect the CARB has in it usual approach set low standard for the transportation sector. If Bush is calling for 10% reduction how can the CARB only ask for 10%?On They're up posted 2 years, 10 months ago 7 Responses
Nit On Land Conservation
Using the EIA data the United States in 2004 emitted 5,912,210,000 meteric tons of CO2. Converting 1.8 tons to meteric tons, equals 1.6 meteric tons per acre, results in an area of 3,613,017,222 acres or 5,645,339 square miles. That would be a square of land 2,375 miles by 2,375 miles.On The meme all the kids are talking about! posted 2 years, 10 months ago 22 Responses
Energy and Net CO2
South Dakota State University last week presented an analysis that showed that using the farm ground in eastern South Dakota for corn ethanol requires that at least 45% by weight of the corn be returned to soil in order to not deplete the soil in order to keep the energy balance positive by not requiring excessive nitrogen for fertilizer and in order to maintain the CO2 storage level that soil has historically maintained. This 45% figure can vary considerably depending upon the nature of the soil and rainfall. Areas with less rainfall will require more of the corn be left in the field. That part of the state gets about 18 inches of rain a year.
I have not seen the report as it was just presented at a conference last week. The University of Minnesota Cedar Creek research facility has done similar work and has shown the importance of leaving significant amounts of the plant matter in the field and that the energy balance requires responsible management in order to keep it positive.
I suspect that regulation will be required in order to keep production levels at substainable levels and avoid over farming.On Is ethanol skeptic Pimentel right after all? posted 2 years, 10 months ago 11 Responses
Plenty of Room Back In Rural America
Those of you that don't understand why a person would leave the rural life should really get it out. I grew up there, love it, live in the City now not because I ran from the country but because I love to be involved in what is happening today.
But for those of you that would like to live back in the Country there are plenty of places that would love to have you. You really ought to consider checking it out. South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas have many small towns that have plenty of room for a family or two.
In my experience those 50 and older do best in making the adjustment to country living. Small towns are unique. The small number of people in the towns, there were 180 people where I grew up, make each town more unique that those who have lived in towns bigger than 5000 can really appreciate.
Back there in the remote north central part of the US you really can forget how many people there are in the world.On One woman's eco-evolution, from off the grid to on the clock posted 2 years, 11 months ago 19 Responses
Me Too
Sounds like policy that provides cheap corn to poor countries has been wrong and that policy that takes away cheap corn to poor countries will be wrong. I suspect, based on the concern for high prices, that providing higher priced corn to poor countries would not be a proper policy as well. I think this reflects a general frustration with the situation. I don't think it is related to effective policy.On More from Lester Brown on ethanol and food costs posted 2 years, 11 months ago 10 Responses
Hard to Stay Connected
In order for a V2G to be useful for spinning reserve it must be able to stay connected to the grid during a major failure. The reason this is required is simple, in the event of a failure the power will be needed, in order to use the power the source must be connected to the grid and capable of feeding more power to the grid during the failure, it should not disconnect. Currently an inverter performs as you state, it detects the lack of power in an outage and disconnects. The disconnection will occur if the frequency varies as well as loss of power. In the event of major generation loss there will be frequency decay and inverters will trip off. It is hard to stay connected.
The complex issue is staying connected to the grid during a regional generation and transmission failure. The electrical waveform during such disturbances can be very non-linear and impossible for an inverter to attempt to match. The engineering associated with this issue is called stability analysis. I would not say it is too complex to engineer, just that it is complex.
I see what I forgot to say was that the non-spin portion of the contingency reserve requirement can be met with load reduction. Therefore, by tripping off the load and serving the local home with the vehicle rather than the grid there is a value associated with reserves. It just is not the spin portion. I am not sure going for spinning reserve recognitiion rather than non-spin is worth the extra equipment and engineering that each installation will require.
In a parking structure with 300 to 500 cars I think I may well go through the engineering required.
On It's not the key to making renewables work posted 2 years, 11 months ago 23 ResponsesReserves
Reserves have gotten more complicated over the years. Used to be there were planning reserves, operating reserves, and regulating reserves. But the use of these terms varied from system to system, further, over time we have gotten better at modeling the systems and minimizing the generation required to be operating at any one time.
Planning reserves are now called Reserve Margin and it the amount of capacity needed above that required to meet peak load. Reserve Margin is calculated using probabilities associated with the maximum hourly load in ten years compared with the expected hourly capability in ten years. If one wishes to learn more about this it is called Loss of Load Probablity (LOLP). In general this is about 15%, but can vary considerably. Planning reserves address the capacity associated with planned outages.
Operating Reserves is composed of two types of reserves: Regulating Reserves and Contingency Reserves.
Regulating Reserves are based on the ability of a generator or a group of generators to response to load changes using a standard called the NERC Control Performance Criteria. The actual regulating reserve requirement is determined based on the maximum load change expected on a system within one minute. Regulating Reserves must be under the control of the Control Area computer that balances generation to load on a continous basis.
Contingenecy Reserves are reserves to be applied to the system in the event of a major failure. At least one half of the requirement must be on line and operating, up to one half can be off line but capable of being on line and operating in ten minutes. The spinning portion of Contingency Reserves must automatically respond to a frequency dip. The rate of response to a dip is measured in MW/.1 Hz Deviation and is called frequency basis. The frequency basis is a matter that is still unsettled. Responses are typically measured in time lines based on cycles, where each cycle is 16.67 milliseconds.
During a disturbance the grid generally undergoes a frequency dip, but it is possible for some areas, where there are many generators, to experience a frequency increase. Most inverters can not withstand a frequency deviation and when exposed to a frequency deviation over a certain tight bandwidth shut down.
Because of the complex issues associated with remaining connected to the grid during a major outage I would consider a V2G response that isolates the local load from the grid and serves only the necessary loads in the home the customers choses using the vehicle battery.On It's not the key to making renewables work posted 2 years, 11 months ago 23 Responses
Made Me Laugh
Great list, some great lines in some of those posts.
Let's face it David this is not a very funny group and to be popular it appears to help to have some humour. Now from reviewing some of the top posts on that list they don't have to be real funny, the stuff that ten years later still makes one laugh, they can be those contemporary jokes that play off the events of the day. Kind of stuff Mark Twain did after he should have given up writing or that Will Rogers was so good at before he died.
Revolutions need humour. Maybe you could post some articles regarding the environment that simply are there for laughs. Of course, properly label them so we don't get them mixed up with the serious stuff.On WTF? posted 2 years, 11 months ago 1 Response
Opt Out Program
Checked with some of our rate people. One of them is Jim Lazar from the State of Washington. He has liked this approach for sometime. Some universities have such a program for their students, they charge a fee for green energy each semester that requires an action by the student in order to remove.
Jim proposes an alternative to opt-out which he calls a "brown power program." Under the "brown power" approach the regular power would be compose of a mix that grows increasingly green and/or low carbon as new resources are added over time while the brown mix is just the coal resources. Normally a person would get the regular power, but if one would wish one could specify a coal based mix instead. I can not imagine many, if any, in California wishing to sign up for brown power, how uncool would that be.
I am sure for some money will be tight, this is a factor to consider. However, our typical power bill is less than $60 for typical customer and typical rent is $1200 with typical house payment of $3000. Those who can afford those rents and payments can probably come up with an extra $10 a month. Still out of our 55,000 customers, 2400 are low income, they may hae a serious problem paying more.
While California has a target for California utilities, it is only 20% by 2017. Most of us are interested in speeding that up and exceeding that level, but in order to do that we will need more funding. This might help make that funding possible.
Interesting idea David. Lots of complications, but what do you expect with a new concept. There are always details with which to contend.On Believe it posted 2 years, 11 months ago 19 Responses
Interesting Idea
I like the idea David of opt out. I think I will shop that one around a bit today.
On Believe it posted 2 years, 11 months ago 19 ResponsesPro Mod Is Pretty Good
Aurora is a good hourly production costing/market clearing price tool. However, it seems to estimate lower market prices than what we experience. This is one of the reason I think there is too much speculation in the electricity markets still. Pro Mod is a power production cost simulator that considers transmission loading and dispatching. You would love Pro Mod as it addresses the unit commit issue that you raise. It gives you a lot of control, another sweet feature of the package. It does take some time, like years, to get good at using it. We have been using it since 1994.
I think the new version of Pro Mod does do LMP, localized marginal pricing, in order to predict market prices, which is how they do business in CA ISO and MISO and Minnesota in is MISO.
In the MISO coal is ramped up and down as that is all they have to follow load most hours. The coal units are seldom taken off line of course.
Our Pro Mod expert is reviewing the report. I suspect he will have a answer that will make sense on that capacity factor relationship. I suspect it is a low load dispatch issue.On Believe it posted 2 years, 11 months ago 19 Responses
Wind Capacity At Time of System Peak
It appears that in 2003 wind capacity would have been operating at about 20% of rated capacity while in 2005 it would have only delivered 5%. These would seem to confirm the general observation that wind is a weak resource for on peak capacity. This summer on the peak day in the CA ISO, they reported only 5% of the wind capacity was available.
Operating Reserve Margin is the unloaded generation an Area requires in order to meet load within the current day in addition to contingency reserves (spin and non-spin) as well as regulating reserves. While including wind throughout a large area was able to reduce the uncertainity of wind loading within the hour it was not effective in reducing the uncertainity in the hours beyond the current hour to seven hours out. As a result the program determined that more reserve margin was required to counter this uncertainity.
As a result wind tends to reduce the operating level of committed generation, but it does not necessarily provide for taking such generation off-line. As a result of wind displacing generation that remains on-line, the operating reserves increase. Adding winds appears to be a fuel displacing measure rather than adding capacity.
I enjoyed the graph that shows the effect of spacial diversity on output deviation.
I don't understand why the coal capacity factors declined and the combustion turbine capacity factors increased with increased wind energy.On Believe it posted 2 years, 11 months ago 19 Responses
MN Study Released This Month
The state of Minnesota and its utilities have released this report. The report considers many of of the operating issues concerning wind. The report came out December 13. Minnesota is a good repersentative of electric systems of the eastern interconnection, which means they are largely thermal with virtually no storage. Some of you may also want to check out the Iowa Stored Energy Project . This stored energy project stores the wind energy as compressed air.On Believe it posted 2 years, 11 months ago 19 Responses
Dingell Is Not Yet A Believer
Dingell is a liberal, an old fashion liberal, and one who has a history of calling Washington Agencies to task with his Dingellgrams, detailed pointed letters that have been researched and designed to make Administrators think and consider before responding. The most recent one to get such a gram was the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.
The Democratic Agenda regarding Energy is Energy Independence. Maybe when they update it this next year from 6 for 2006 to 7 for 2007 they might consider adding Global Warming.On John Dingell talks to Grist about climate change, fuel economy, and the 110th Congress posted 2 years, 11 months ago 17 Responses
Wyoming Wind
Burbank and Los Angeles recently purchased a block of wind power out of Wyoming that began flowing in June. The cost of that energy is $65/MWh.
We are developing our own sites as well, but the cost of system interconnecting the towers and the associated VAR compensation required is a significant cost as well as the substation cost to connect to a 230kV line.On It's all about electricity posted 2 years, 11 months ago 72 Responses
There Are Codes and Interconnections Standards
There are currently in place building codes (uniform electric code), interconnection standards (IEEE 1547), and reviews by the transmission owner, grid operator, and reliability council regarding addition at the regional transmission level to address the technical issues. We are not going to be spending millions, let alone billions, connecting things to the grid without going through the analysis and testing required for such development.
Mr. Engineer, I can tell from your posts that like me you have been in the utility business for over 35 years. You know of many of the changes we have made on the grid over that time. For example the Pacific Intertie, series compensated transmission lines, static var generators, phase shifting transformers, and loop flow management.
Incorporating DC transmission into the grid was no small feat. Many had serious questions regarding it and we established very severe reserve requirements associated with it. In April 1987 you may remember the oscillation that occurred while testing IPP when the Southern Transmission System upset the WSCC grid. Series compensated transmission lines took out the Navajo Generating Plant twice by twisting off its rotor from sub synchronous resonance. Static Var Generation controls three time resulted in multiple generation trips because of the complex machine transmission interaction associated with sub cycle var switching. You are no doubt how many years we spent discussing the problems with phasing shifting transformers and mandatory line load relief procedures only to find their implementation problems to be administrative. The same can be said for dynamic schedules between balancing areas.
Point is that there are in place methods and defined paths for such reviews and developments that are very complete. From my experience that analysis is professional and balanced.
We are facing more technological change in over a shorter period of time than we have ever seen. These are exciting times. We have to develop ideas. It is too easy to kill what might be a good idea early on. We should avoid that.
On It's all about electricity posted 2 years, 11 months ago 72 Responses
Personality Types
There are nine personality types that can be used to define characters as well as personality. The types are Reformer, Helper, Motivator, Romantic, Thinker, Skeptic, Enthusiast, Leader, and Peacemaker. Each of them can succeed or fail, but they each have their own mode of action. A skeptic must believe in something in order to succeed, for example committed relationships. The classic movie used to illustrate a skeptic is Paul Newman in "The Verdict."
About 5% of the general population are skeptics. I have not seen data on what percent of engineers are skeptics, but I don't think it is as high as "most"" (meaning 50% or more) engineers, but I think it is higher than 5%.
We use professional coaches to help develop our best managers. They use these types. They point out that it is unhealthy to believe that simply finding fault with ideas is not as great of an aid as the skeptic might think. Simiarily, the enthusiast can be an unrealistic optimist who believes everything can work and deserves a try.
There is a computerized writing tool for authors of fiction called Dramatica that also uses these nine personality types in order to develop believeable characters. If an author develops a character that gets too far from these norms and outcomes the characters do not seem believeable.
The point of this is that the role of Devil's Advocate can be over played, especially early on in the Product Cycle when the product is ill defined and data on it is immature. I think that it is too early to bring out the devil and let him have his way with the V2G concept. It may still have a role or some kind, it is too soon to tell, I am thinking that its role might be better with regards to outage management.On It's all about electricity posted 2 years, 11 months ago 72 Responses
Problems Of a Skeptic
The Skeptic is great at finding problems, and a critic does provide some value. But the value is not as great as is the person who can actually get something done. Of the nine personality types engineers seem to have a significant number of Skeptics in their lot.
The trouble is nothing is perfect and even those things that might be characterized as a fault can in the proper application be fine.
Skeptics make bad managers and even worst leaders. No one would want to be married to one. Few would want to be friends with one
It can be tempered with humuor, but in the end the bitter sting of finding fault comes out. It is especially easy to find fault when there is little or no data to support a position. A skeptic can really tear into one of those.
Remember IBM said only 7 copy machines would ever be sold.
On It's all about electricity posted 2 years, 11 months ago 72 Responses
Big Macs and Whoppers
The greenhouse gas footprint of fast food burgers may be considerably larger than just the grills, refrigeration, and facilities. Wonder what the greenhouse footprint is for a pound of hamburger. If the above information is correct I suspect it is over a hundred pounds.On It's disheartening posted 2 years, 11 months ago 7 Responses
Draft CPUC Rules Are Out
Comments on the draft CPUC decision regarding coal contracts came out last Wednesday and comments must all be in by January 2. Those proposed rules require all purchases five years or longer be unit specific rather than system purchases. The law does allow for clean coal technologies, but amazingdrx is correct there are no commericial technologies that one could purchase using standard financial instruments to finance. There appear to be clean coal approaches that could work, but those costs are high and commericial realization is beyond the ten year point. In my view in order for coal to be clean, emissions would have to be virtually eliminated to a level as clean as natural gas and significantly over half of the CO2 would have to converted to carbonate. Can that be done in the next ten years? Maybe, but it is not certain and would take more action than is currently in play.
Rather I suspect we will be building more wind and backing that wind up with natural gas capacity. On New California power regs might hurt coal ... or not posted 2 years, 11 months ago 6 Responses
Laughter Is Fun
One must understand that which is funny for its own sake. This is such a study, if it results in someone progressing to their doctorate all the more we should laugh.On Turns out vegetarians are smart posted 2 years, 11 months ago 25 Responses
Harvesting Hay of Native Grasses
Native grasses are perennials, requiring no annual planting, and western prairie grasses develop dense root networks. Hay fields are not tilled, the soil is left undisturbed, and is able to support haying operations without damage. Haying operations consists a mowing and raking operation that places the cut grass in a row called a winrow, it is then allowed to dry, a process which on a typical summer day takes only a few hours or overnight, and is then baled or stacked. Hay can be stacked up in bunches twenty feet in diameter and 14 to 18 feet tall, but stacked hay can not be moved very far nor very quickly. Baled hay can be more easily moved. Bales can be rectanglaur prisms, which stack very nicely, and are typically 70 pounds, or formed into cylinders 6 or 7 feet in diameter and 9 feet long. I have never worked with the larger bales, only the rectanglaur ones. One can often get two cutting from a field, in a wet year as many as three. Rainfall is adequate for native grasses, otherwise they would not be native grasses. In checking with those who have hay operation in western South Dakota, a dry region, they typically produce 4 tons of hay per acre.On Native perennials shown to produce more fuel than industrial monocrops posted 2 years, 11 months ago 9 Responses
I Never Get Bumped
I have served on more than my share of juries, I never seem to get bumped even with my engineer label. In fact there were a few juries with a number of us.
Asking an engineer to consider guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is a bit like asking him to sit in a corner while in round tank. Hmmm, what is unreasonable doubt? Is that really doubt? Why would anyone hold a doubt which one would judge to be unreasonable? For a logical person such as an engineer, such a requirement would be any doubt, would it not? And so it goes...not guilty
Went to the Alternative Car Expo in Santa Monica last weekend. Saw some great batteries and personal transportation developments. It is tempting to consider one of those car/bike animals with electric assist when one gets to thinking outside the box. On Electric bike triumphs and travails posted 2 years, 11 months ago 6 Responses
Martinis
I take broad liberties with the martini by including vodka and other spirits as acceptable, even flavored schnaps can find a place in my martini shaker and glass as long as it results in a drink which can be properly sipped.
I am not so sure I would proscribe corn liquor (ethanol, aka bourbon when aged in oak barrels). Try an old fashion or manhattan up instead of having one buried in ice for a change sometime for those of you who can drink such mind altering concoctions. The little cherry can be especially festive this time of year.
On A Krafty concoction of hydrogenated goo gets its day in court. posted 2 years, 11 months ago 20 ResponsesCows Are Vegetarians
Cows drink milk when they are babies, feed milk to their young, and use leather for clothing so they are not vegans. I guess I can support the concept, as long as we are talking about AVERAGE persons rather than ourselves.On Turns out vegetarians are smart posted 2 years, 11 months ago 25 Responses
Boiler Fuel
I have been working with the idea of using such fuel directly as a supplement to replace coal. It looks like it takes an acre of grass to generate a kW of load pattern capacity or just short of two acres for kW baseload capacity. Supplementing with wind energy can reduce this foodprint as well yet still provide firm capacity. On Native perennials shown to produce more fuel than industrial monocrops posted 2 years, 11 months ago 9 Responses
Native Grasses Support Soil Stabity
Returning the prairie land to native grasses has appeal in that it would reduce soil loss due to wind and water erosion. Such grasses don't require annual replanting and only require an average amount of rainfall. On our farm we had several hay fields that were virgin prairie, meaning it was native grasses with a root base developed over hundreds of years that could quickly recover following a prairie fire.
We used to use the hay for heating and cooking. While not as hot or as long lasting as coal, it was comparable to wood if we compressed it sufficiently.On Native perennials shown to produce more fuel than industrial monocrops posted 2 years, 11 months ago 9 Responses
Public Lands and Cattle
I think the time has come to begin to reduce the leasing of public lands for cattle operations. I am surprised it has gone on as long as it has. The wild west era is over. If you need to ranch buy your own land. Another subsidy who time has come and gone. I think the cattle industry has been established and should now be capable of supporting itself.On Between hunters and environmentalists, that is posted 2 years, 11 months ago 17 Responses
What Is Thought to be In Store For Us in 2007
What do people think will be in store for us in 2007, my top five
- Record heat wave
- Oil prices topping $85 a barrel
- Housing prices declining
- Federal Greenhouse Gas Legislation does not pass in 2007
- Pull out of Iraq begins
- Record heat wave
Brutally Honest Approach
As a rule such people who market SUV tend to be less honest than this regarding their dreams. The copy actually makes this rich person's SUV look evil, while in real life it looks more like something Richie Rich Jr., of comic book fame, would have. I think this is a keeper, as I would not expect it to get much more exposure. It has unique historical value in showing the state of awareness present in the Marketing Departments at Ford. On Must be seen to be believed posted 2 years, 12 months ago 3 Responses
Perserve the Site Not the CO2
The point that we have sought in Burbank is to reduce the CO2 and other emissions at the Intermountain Power Project site while maintaining the site. For us the project's transmission brings wind energy from Wyoming that we currently have under contract and over which we intend to bring more such energy. Replacing coal energy with wind energy is another strategy that we believe can be incorporated as we bring on more wind energy.
The big about face that recently occurred is the alignment of all of the Intermoutain Power Project participants to conduct a significant study of how the current 2000 pounds of CO2 per megawatthour can be reduced to less than 1100 pound of CO2 per megawatthour. Burbank called for such reduction in 2003, however, that was viewed as too expensive and unnecessary at that time. We are very happy that we are now considering that approach. I thank our good friends at NRDC for their efforts.On It's also the road to 'energy security' posted 3 years ago 3 Responses
What is Your State Doing
What is your state doing to reduce greenhouse gases? What have you done to get people elected to enact legislation? In California this is a major issue, yet the rest of the country stands by and acts like we are just a bunch of nuts. Frankly I am tired or being marginalized as irrational.On What kind of rhetoric creates social change? posted 3 years ago 29 Responses
On With the Revolution
What is it that you propose that we do. I contend that this is an all together rational and balanced group. Smart, understanding, considerate. Maybe even
What does it mean to get radical? What is a boots on the ground revolution? Is it just talk, or is it action?On What kind of rhetoric creates social change? posted 3 years ago 29 Responses
Change is Messy It Take Radicals
Change does take special people who know how to fire up their creativity and motivate people even scare people and who appear to be out of control, but are in fact acting strategically and with a logical purpose. Thing is that you don't start with being nuts.On What kind of rhetoric creates social change? posted 3 years ago 29 Responses
Sunflower Is Rational and I suspect Balanced
When one makes a decision to be radical and irrational it is quite a different thing than being by one's nature irrational and unbalanced.
I find Sunflower to be a very rational person in his presentation of his thoughts and he has influenced me from that center of his. I am a strong support of concentrating PV because he showed me the wisdom of that technology. On What kind of rhetoric creates social change? posted 3 years ago 29 Responses
balanced and rational people tend to be white,
What support do you have for your position that balanced and rational people tend to be white? I am not so sure that I agree with that, I certainly have not seen any studies that suggest that to be the case.
I think supporting a position that balance and rational thinking repersents the best way to strategically approach an issue and provides a good foundation from which one may best develop a solution to a problem like global warming would be found to be stronger position than the position that balance and rational thinking are the characteristics that distinquish white people from others.
Martin Luther King, Andrew Young, and even Jesse Jackson are examples of rational balanced people who have known how to best communicate and effect change.On What kind of rhetoric creates social change? posted 3 years ago 29 Responses
Pinedale Wind
I don't know about photovoltaic at Pinedale but to the northeast of Pinedale I understand there is excellent wind potential. As the wells seem quite close together I suspect the depletion rate is getting shorter. On Besieged by natural-gas exploration, a Wyoming town draws the line posted 3 years ago 5 Responses
Canning
I have found canning to be a good option for local food. Last summer I canned up 20 quarts of tomatoes when the local tomatoes were in plentiful supply and at their peak flavor. Now I have a stash of the red beauties for special meals. It was a hit last week. It was my first attempt at canning. Think I will do more in the future.On Locally grown food shouldn't be just for those with cash to spare posted 3 years ago 10 Responses
Realistic Liberal
I am a liberal and I believe that the task before us in reducing GHG in sufficient amounts as to stop the increase in greenhouse gases in the atomsphere is perhaps the largest objective the species has faced. The electricity supply can not now run on photovoltaic, wind, and cogeneration because those facilities are not in place and putting them in place will take time, money, and leadership. Further, those resources can not operate when the wind does not blow or the sun does not shine, yet the need for electricity is continual. Our transportation resources will require massive amounts of money and leadership and of course time to implement the mass transist systems we will need for passengers and freight as well as personal transport devices.
These limits of which I write are not political. These are limits associated with implementation after we have agreement to provide the necessary resources.
It will be an issue to bring the gap countries into the solution, but that will only be possible after we have shown the leadership to cut fossil fuel consumption and improve our quality of life for ourselves.
Yes, we might fail. The tipping points could begin to fall and in so doing damage our economy sufficiently that we will not have the resources to make the necessary infrastructure improvements for our people. That would be a sad state of affairs. We must not let it come to that.
The election in 2008 will be critical. The country is getting older and as a result many will exhibit the defeatist attitudes that many people develop as they age and experience dissappointments over the years. People carry baggage from wrongs they experienced in the past and those experiences carry over into collective views, they cloud the vision. Writers of defeat will find readers among those who are ready for defeat.
I say let's move on and see those for the poor souls which they are, but I am not going to be so naive as to think this work before us is not daunting.On He would have us accept disaster posted 3 years ago 11 Responses
Results
Did I-937 pass?On It ain't environmentalists fighting change posted 3 years ago 2 Responses
CEC CO2 Report
The CEC report on CO2 that came out this week uses EPA data that is older than the EIA data. Here is a link for the EIA CO2 Data.
I note in the references associated with the CEC report they point out that the EIA data is newer. I don't understand why they did not use it.
I am confident that with more wind, solar energy, and geothermal we in California will be able to reduce our total CO2 generation to levels even better than France without going to nuclear. But we are going to have to do something about those cars.
On California's per capita GHG emissions are falling posted 3 years ago 1 ResponseNet Metering for Dummies
Looks like Wikipedia is a little off in this case. Net metering always results in price received for electricity to be at the retail price. This is favorable because the highest price for electricity in the distribution chain is the retail price (no surprise). Net metering allows a utility customer to put an approved electricity resource, like a solar panel or wind turbine, on its property and connect it to 120/240 volt wiring on the property thus displacing electricity otherwise bought from the utility. Further, if the generation exceeds the need of the customer the customer gets a credit for that electricity. Typically if the credit remains positive throughout the year for a customer the customer gets paid for the power at the retail rate.
Net metering does not meter the electricity resource seperately. Because it does not measure it seperately there is no way the resource does not, in effect, get the benefit of the retail price. Letting the meter turn backwards to undo past purchases is a great feature of the approach.On State boosts renewable standards to 15% by 2025 posted 3 years, 1 month ago 3 Responses
Stern Report
I like the Stern Report. I see the conclusion is to base GHG reduction policy on three essential elements: carbon pricing, technology policy, and removal of barriers to behavioural change. In addition, the report recognizes the need for adaptation policy regarding the private and public responses as well as cost/benefit to responses to those events that are likely to occur before GHG levels are stablized and begin to reduce. Collective international will be required to sort out issues between core and non-core, open carbon trading between countries, curbing deforestation, and funding development that is substantiable.
I agree that implementing these elements, preparing for the problems that will occur from the damage already done, and addressing the international equity issues will have many problems. This is a global problem and any approach that is not global is not viable. Common elements are essential for a global effort. We need to recognize that in the event of severe storms international relief will be necessary for non-core nations and such action should be anticipated rather than leaving such responses to good will and best efforts.
One can question if we as a species will be able to work together on an a global basis in order to accomplish this goal of stablizing and then reducing GHG levels, but to a large degree that is more cocktail talk than the work of those involved with the solution. The question for those involved is "what approach should we use, what resistance will be strongest, and how will that resistance change as progress is made?"
And yes there are issues other than global warming. In the end people have to make up their mind what is important. I suspect that with the continuation of warming it will be increasingly easy to gather support for GHG reductions than other causes. A strong factor has to be the impact GHG have on peak temperatures. For example, when Chicago, New York, Paris, or London get hit with 115 there will be consequences. People need to understand the basic science AND observe the events in order to be committed. There will be other weather events steming from climate change. The events must be explained, can't assume everyone will figure it out on their own.
It would be very foolish to expect leaders throughout the United States to act indepentdently and come up with a workable plan, let alone the world. Reports like the Stern report help build an understanding of how we best develop our response to this growing issue.
Don't give up because it is not perfect and the issue will have to compete for attention just like every other issue.On Some reservations about global warming policy posted 3 years, 1 month ago 20 Responses
Extreme Ideologues Seeking Reductions
Unfortunately there are some ideologues who are fighting the good fight to combat global warming who are wrapped up in politics and as a result forget the objective. For example there are a lot of policy makers here in California that oppose carbon reductions that are not within the state of California, that oppose any alliance with the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative because it is not in California, and those who seek the transfer of the ownership of coal plants rather than phasing them out or finding ways to counter the carbon.
It is a little crazy in the rule making space.On Denialists are not the only ones posted 3 years, 1 month ago 27 Responses
Action Will Require Judgement
At this stage of the crisis many are in denial. We in California are the only ones who are talking about steps to actually stop this wholesale production of greenhouse gases. Throughout the state communities are conducting studies to create greenhouse gas reduction plans. In conducting such studies costs are considered, CO2 reductions calculated, and impacts evaluated. It is a process that has an economic nature to it. It would not be prudent to just go hell bent for leather implementing rules. Once the pen comes out to write the regulations politics will do most of the work but at some level cost and effectiveness should have some role.
Bush and the GOP might hold the high offices now, but the day will come when others beside us in California will be determining the new GHG regulations. There is wisdom in being rational and using some economics in the process of rule making.On Denialists are not the only ones posted 3 years, 1 month ago 27 Responses
Crazy People Factor
A number of fires here in Southern California appear to have been set by people rather than being directly climate related. Our biggest tool against fire has become monitoring the hillsides for arsons or the initial fires they create.
I suspect that the drier weather makes it easier for an arson to get a good forest fire burning, thus, making it more attractive than it has been in the past. On What climate scientists have learned from Western wildfires posted 3 years, 1 month ago 9 Responses
Solar Tucson
I was in Tucson for four days earlier this month as well for an American Public Power Meeting. We noted the lack of solar water heating and panels as noted above. Also the lack of eves on the homes, shade trees, and intelligent planning. They do seem to use reclaimed water well and they do an outstanding job of controlling light by limiting fugutive light. I am not sure why they have chosen to be such an example for lighting.On Why not more solar power in Tucson? posted 3 years, 1 month ago 11 Responses
Clothes Lines
I understand how difficult it can be to use a clothes line east of the 99th meridian or up in the NW where it rains rather frequently, but in other parts of the West where one generally finds dry weather, putting the clothes out on a line or even indoors on a strategically placed line in the kitchen I find letting nature do the work the best policy. Plus I like the way they smell, they smell clean. Kind of a nice reward for washing your clothes that you don't get with a mechanical dryer.On Umbra on dryer sheets posted 3 years, 1 month ago 11 Responses
Tax, Ration, or save the poor
Just over 90% of the coal is used to make electricity and just over 50% of the electricity is from coal. A ton of coal generates 2000kWh using Powder River Basin Coal, 3000kWh using other coal. The alternative fuel would be natural gas or oil. A gallon of oil is good for 10kWh. A dth of natural gas is good for 100kWh.
Assuming that we implement a tax right away before any alternative generating capacity can be built and utilities can pass the carbon tax to its customers.
A carbon tax of $100 a ton would add 4 cents to a KWh, or $40 to the typical residential bill and generate on the order of 100 billion in tax revenue.
At $100 a ton coal is still cheaper than burning natural gas at $8/dth or oil at 2.00 a gallon. Just to get the utility to fuel switch would require a carbon tax north of $200 a ton and drives rates up by over a 100% in those states that use a lot of coal. Generally that part of the US east of the Rockies and south of New England.
Would it be better to let price set the point where coal is shut down or would it be better to ration the output from coal to certain classes of useres? Or just give the poor people access to electricity at the old rate?On A new essay posted 3 years, 1 month ago 15 Responses
Human Nature Can be Brutal
I grew up in a local area where most all food and fuel was from the local area. While it was friendly in a very family way, it was not tolerant. I remember back in 1969 when some Mad Max types came into the local town on their Harleys and got a little drunk and started to abuse the locals only to have the locals beat the crap out of them. Two of them nearly died, I guess you could say nearly killed. I understand one of them lost his manhood. The locals were willing to give their lives to protect the the town, the Mad Max types were not. They ran, they were capture, and they were beat within an inch of their lives. No charges were filed.
When life is tough, fights become fights to the death. You do not fight for show.
It is hard to understand how fearful, boring, and pent-up living in an isolated community can be. Be such a community in a city or a remote part of the country, it is still the same. When you are confined it is like confining an animal.
However, when nice people moved into town they were greeted with much kindness. They quickly were made part of the community. Interestingly enough most all of them found the little community to be the best place they had ever lived.
I have lived it, I don't understand it. But you take those nice little seemingly innocent small towns where everything seems low profile and go against the grain, you will find resistance. If you threaten it you will find a fight.
There is high sucide rate in these small times. Sucides where the person shoots itself in the head and then cleans the barrel of the gun. Sucides are cheaper to process than murder and we all pay the county tax.On Rethinking 'overpopulation' posted 3 years, 1 month ago 77 Responses
I am an Abolitionist and Environmentalist
Some labels remain strong. Prior to the Civil War my family found themselves strongly against slavery. They were some of the first abolitionist and over time this nation was able to get rid of slavery. At the time being against slavery was considered a marginal position, over time it became a recognized position and one which the country was willing to go to war in order to prevent. It is good that slavery has been cast from our shores. I understand the slavery of capitalism and understand how many are still unable to escape. We have room to grow. Slavery remains today, only in different forms.
However, today, at this time, I believe that we require the conviction of environmentalists in order to best lead. Without a good environment the economic system is a worthless vessel.
How we reduce our dependency upon fossil fuels while maintaining our standard of living will not be possible without considerable change.
It looks like a good winter for designing and acquiring a solar photovoltaic system and maybe even a wind turbine. Anyone who lives in California and has a home with an exposure to the south should consider photovoltaic. I believe it is possible to install a 2.5 kW array on your home in California today for a cost of less than $5000.
I say embrace being an environmentalist for in the near future all people will be such.On Vote! posted 3 years, 1 month ago 26 Responses
Loss Evaluated Transformers
Thirty years ago the IEEE established standards for evaluating the losses of transformers based on the marginal cost of energy so that utilities could use such a method to reject bids for transformers that were cheap but lossy. Today utility commissions insist that utilities purchase transformers with the cost of power loss over the 40 to 50 year life of such transformers considered in the purchase.
Where the problem lies are those transformers purchased for commericial applications. Commericial and industrial applications have a practice of ignoring life cycle costs in favor of reduced capital costs and as a result too often buy the highest loss transformers. Such transformers are also less reliable. As they often made of aluminum they do not do well under heat and as result are prone to failure. The high resistance of these lossy transformers also distort the voltage that can lead to damage of equipment.
Higher standards are needed to insure commericial applications stop using these lossy transformers. On Read it posted 3 years, 2 months ago 1 Response
Looks Like English to Me
I think that toliet is for export to some country that speaks english.On China, up close and personal posted 3 years, 2 months ago 20 Responses
LED Outdoors
LED work very well outdoors. These devices have been doing their magic in Vegas for ten years. Those at the Young Sign and Daktronics have been pressing envelope making LED signs more and more like TVs in Vegas and sporting events.
LED can supplant CFL. It may have a larger impact than CFL as LED may replace fluorescent technology which has been used in commericial and government buildings since the 50s and 60s.
LED do very well in cold weather. They also pose little fire danger. They are showing up in gas stations, high end retail, restaurants, bars, signal lights, and cars.
Costs are high, but so are the savings, as well as the life.On Umbra on LEDs posted 3 years, 2 months ago 9 Responses
More Information
We have several stock ponds on the ranch. Each of them have different kind of fish, but we never stocked them. They just get fish. Several years ago, when I was a child, I asked the State College how these stock ponds get fish and they explained that it appears that fertilized fish eggs attach to ducks as they swim and then are deposited in other waters when the bird travels.
I believe they are box turtles. They generally eat insects. But some get very large, like 15 inches across. They are strong. They attack by laying near the water, drawing in their head and legs until something comes by, and then they strike, biting on to whatever they can and then not letting go. I would never let them kill a cat, but I have had to force them to let go of cats, and once a little dog, a number of times. This one cat we once had had half of her front paw biten off.
I have had turtle soup in New Orleans. Only had it once, probably will not have it again.
On Protecting the base of the Southern ocean marine food web posted 3 years, 2 months ago 12 ResponsesHaving Things and Mental Health
It is important to seperate psychological issues from economic. These two components of life are not at the same experience level.
The need to acquire things is not necessarily related to economics. That need to acquire is psychological. Those who seek to buy and consume will continue to seek to acquire even with no money or in an economic failure.
It is our culture that leads to the consuming that we seem to enjoy. We must find security and safety within ourselves. When we don't feel in control we feel the need to have things to protect us or support us in the event of unfortunate circumstances. On Just because GDP doesn't track happiness is no reason to reject economic growth posted 3 years, 2 months ago 29 Responses
LED for EE
I have been adding Light Emitting Diodes lighting to my house over the last year. I have been using the OptiLED James speaks of. They are not very bright, but work well for low level lighting so a person can avoid turning on other lights. My current project is using motion sensors to gently light the walls at night when a person enters a darken room. Unfortunately I find this work more of an exercise enjoyed by us electrical engineers or electronic hobbists. The products are not ready for the masses, but they have great potential. For example, with LED you can have not only a dimmer but select the color tone of the light as well. Using DMX lighting control can give a person great flexibility in lighting.
Cool things about LED are energy efficiency, small size (true point source), long life, and ability to be intergrated into fixtures. By building in spares into a fixture a lighting appliance (aka lamp) could last a million hours.
On Umbra on LEDs posted 3 years, 2 months ago 9 ResponsesTurtles
The same way they catch other food. Lie still, something comes up to them just to see what is going on, whem the victim gets too close they lock their jaws onto to the victim and then don't let go.
We never stocked the pond. I understand that water fowl can carry the eggs. On Protecting the base of the Southern ocean marine food web posted 3 years, 2 months ago 12 Responses
No Salt Water Fish For Me
I agree with Biodiversivist. I think that properly raised catfish and other fish in fresh water is a better choice for the environment than are ocean fish. Those of us in LA have long held a bais against fish that may have been caught in Santa Monica bay. This is one of the reason we support Heal the Bay.
How about urban fisheries? It would seem it would be appropriate to develop within the urban environment fisheries that combine public space with fisheries that can provide humans a place to enjoy a park like setting with active water and water life, maybe even allowing fishing for a fee, while raising fresh water fish. A series of waterfalls, circulating water, and fish farming may work very well into a park theme.
I was back home in South Dakota this last week working on a wind farm project. Dad and I pulled out a few bass out of the stock pond we built when I was 12 years old. I am almost 55 and Dad is 76 for those who want to do the math. We do not let our cattle drink directly out of the pond, but it is the source of water that we provide them. It has been a dry year, less than 6 inches this year, but there are sufficient stores from past years to provide water for the herd as well as the fish. The turtles have gotten well out of hand, they ate two cats this last year. I am a little un-settled about that. It makes me a supporter of turtle soup, where I was not before. We are getting a lot of turtles back home.
I wonder how much fish we could provide a community from a significant water feature in a park or even associated with a local municipal power plant or other municipal water use. Depth is an important feature. I think this is worthy of consideration.On Protecting the base of the Southern ocean marine food web posted 3 years, 2 months ago 12 Responses
Four Got Me
Are those two us?On Vote for your favorite Science Idol posted 3 years, 2 months ago 4 Responses
Sure I am All For It
I think the choice is clear.... You Can Not Have Too Much Happiness
So heed that advice and give in to the moment. I find comsumption boring.
However, beware, happiness is over-rated. You should not have too much happiness. I enjoy happiness as well as the next guy, but in looking back on my life, those times when I was not happy actually were some pretty good times, I wish I would have enjoyed them more.On If the U.S. could get happier and poorer, would it? posted 3 years, 2 months ago 16 Responses
Depletion
I suspect that this oil find is a finite oil find that will follow the same depletion curves that oil wells have exhibited in the past.
Unless of course Jason you are a supporter of the theory that this oil is being generated from some unknown process within the earth. Last night on the radio I heard Jerome Corsi the co-author of "Black Gold Stranglehold" speak of the abiotic theory of oil where there are vast, deep levels of oil not derived from fossils but rather the earth's minerals. It was an hour long segment before the UFO portion of the show.
I think that proof of abiotic oil production or the indentification of those UFOs as alien life would change the thinking of many of us. However, until such time I think we should resist using either to set policy.
For now we should assume oil wells will deplete as oil is removed.On Vast untapped oil reserve discovered in the Gulf of Mexico posted 3 years, 2 months ago 15 Responses
Tomatoes Still Great, Think About Canning
It is great to have locally produced food. In order to take advantage of this bounty later on, when the tomatoes lose their flavor, I have canned up some tomato sauce this Labor Day weekend. FIrst time I have done it myself. It was with some sense of pride I added those pint jars of my own tomato sauce to a cool spot under the house. Think I will put up another batch this next weekend as well.
I encourage others to give canning a try.On A cornucopia of new books tells us where our food comes from posted 3 years, 2 months ago 5 Responses
Urban Farming
How much land would it require to take care of a significant amount of the fruits and vegetable needs for a city of 100,000? Using the 5 to 7 serving a day recommendation for fruits and vegetables that means these people should eat three pounds of fruits and vegetable a day. Providing them half a pound of the three would be significant. So how much land does it take to grow 18.25 million pounds of food.
Tomato production can yield 25,000 pounds per acre. Carrot production can yield 16,000 pound per acre. Lettuce production can also yield about 16,000 pounds per acre.
This would conclude 1100 acres should be sufficient to grow 20% of the vegetable requirements for 100,000 people, using conventional farming. However, gardeners can often obtain considerable improvements while maintaining quality of the produce. I would suspect urban farming can probably reduce this land requirement, but let's use the 1100 acre target.
Using the City of Burbank as an example, these 100,000 people fit into 19 square miles. Meaning 1100 acres would require 9% of the land. About a third of that need could be found under high voltage transmission towers that go through town and another third on the portion of the landfill that was closed in 1955. The cemetary look inviting for fruit trees as do the Verdugo mountains for the remainer. It will probably be possible to grow some vegetables in the Verdugos.
I am not talking victory gardens. I think to do this right we will need something more thoughtfully put together. For example, using recycled water from the City sewer treatment facility. Siting the gardens to act as fire breaks and for improved security. Augumenting the soil with mulch generated from garbage collection.
There is more to urban farming than we yet know and after we know more, even more work to get the codes and conservative mindsets adjusted. I do not think it would be out of the questiong for urban farming to produce 10% to 25% of a community's need for fruits and vegetables.
On The best ways to "fix" agriculture posted 3 years, 3 months ago 33 Responses
Urban Farming
It may be time to get serious about urban farming. By incorporating the raising of fruits, berries, and vegatables within Cities we make fresh food available to more, provide jobs to cronic unemployed, improve awareness of the quality of food, and increase the value of the food raised by growing food locally. How about some of the USDA going towards urban farming technology development?On The best ways to "fix" agriculture posted 3 years, 3 months ago 33 Responses
Good Photos
I could not help but notice the artistic quality of the photos of the journalits both as single photos and as a collection.On Top environment reporters talk about journalism vs. activism posted 3 years, 3 months ago 6 Responses
We Think and We Believe
While raised a catholic I have stopped going to church 35 years ago. I think formal religion is fine for kids, but when you get to be an adult it is time to think and act like an adult, and an important part of that is to come to terms with how you intend to live your life and what you believe in. More importantly, how to live and continue to grow. I don't support any formal religions, but I try to understand them. There is a little truth in them all, and what do you call something with a little truth...a lie. Still there is something to learn. For many the formal religion is enough. But for some, there is more out there.
It becomes a process of indivual development. We start out as children, we go through certain predictable development phases and then we become adult. We can still continue to grow, to shake off the old and take on new. Psychology, philosophy, and experimentation help us grow. Rollo May, the psychologist, wrote several book that I found especially enlighting. His Courage to Create is one I read and re-read from time to time. It is funny how often I come upon people who grew up with him, stayed with him, and otherwise knew him. Another similar writer that I find crossing paths with is Ken Wilbur. I have never met him, but we have a number of common friends. He too was a friend of Rollo May. Ken Wilbur is very interesting, check out his Integral Institute for more informatin.
I think we are more connected that we might commonly understand. On Why the late, lamented Doha round wasn't really the answer for ag policy. posted 3 years, 3 months ago 21 Responses
Sometimes It's Your Job
When the corporation needs to have a fall guy someone has to fall, but the corporation goes on.On Wal-Mart is not a person posted 3 years, 3 months ago 17 Responses
Thank You Caniscandida
Caniscandida your writing is often enlighting, thank you for your words. I unfortunately am better with my non-verbal mathmatical intuition than in my verbal pursuits, espeically during the week.
I must say to what I was referring when I used the "power in numbers." When I was a child I learn that wherever two or more are joined my name there I shall be with you. I was not sure what that meant until I got older and I began to make some sense of it.
When we discover the strength of sprituality in our ownselves we come to understand a bit of what we are in universe and for that matter something of what is the universe. However, that is a very big thing for us to understand, probably too big. By exploring our spritual side with others in a respectful manner we grow in a manner than has balance and greater understanding of the world and its people. If we grow our spritual understanding within ourselves and by ourselves nothing new is introduced, only the old is re-hashed. It can be a receipe for insanity, certainly imbalance.
I find that too many give TV religious people too much attention. I find these leaders so full of themselves. I grew up in a small farming ranching community, those TV personalities were not a source of spritual leadership with anyone I know there. I think that often it is those who are alone in their search for God who find something in the likes of Rev. Robertson. He can grasp on to that thread of reasoning that can get all twisted around inside a mind and seem to be truth.
Sanity is best found amoung the people and with the people and so is God.
When I orginally wrote the piece above I attempted to contrast with the risk management tactics of the poor as to those of the corporation. It is funny how my Mom would approach potential risks with a prayer, while I find myself appling hedges, straddles, forward contracts, puts and calls, as well as taking phyiscal deliveries. It is the irony of it all, for I think Mom got a different, more peaceful form of satisfaction from her risk management than do I.
With regards to subsidies, I believe they are an important tool for Government, but they must be applied with a appropriate vision. I believe this has been a problem for over 40 years. It is time for a change.On Why the late, lamented Doha round wasn't really the answer for ag policy. posted 3 years, 3 months ago 21 Responses
Borg or Person, Particle or Wave
I am not sure if so many of you disagree with David because you believe Wal-Mart is in fact a person and the methods and means which one deals and feels about a person are valid when relating to Wal-Mart or if you have Googled person and corporation and found that corporations are persons. In fact the concept of a corporation having rights similar to people and having a being seperate from a person goes back much earlier than the 1880s and even prior to the USA. While corporations are treated as persons they are quite anti-social, single focused, quided only by the letter of the law and not morals, programable with high inertia, immortal, and autonomous.
The question is, is it more accurate to treat them as a machine or as a person when considering your actions, policies, and support.
I understand the confusion. Writers and thinkers have considered the issues associated with machine, especially robots, and what rights robots might have. Especially if the robots are made from a mix of an organic housing and silicon based cyber chips, aka a cyborg, an entity that looks, smells, acts, and feels like a person but has a cyber mind rather than a human mind.
Star Trek put many cyborgs together and called them a borg. When visiting a large corporate headquarters it is possible to understand where the writers of Star Trek got this concept.
The most popular cyborg stories have such cyborgs as the antagonist, with character elements that are similar to the protagonist, but evil instead of good. Sometimes the stories have a cyborg who is the hero. Robert Heinlein's Friday seems to me to an especially attractive version of such a hero, even though she is an Artificial Person.
Light, and sub-atomic particles, as well, for that matter, act like both particle and wave. They can be treated as both. I believe that corporations can be treated as both person or machine. However, it is not a dumb machine. Rather than as is the Wizard in Oz, corporations are more like the Borg in hyperspace, so use appropriate safety precautions.
I certainly do not believe the person concept applies to corporations as far as warranting them the right of political franchise.
My answer is that it is more accurate to treat a corporation such as Wal-Mart as both a machine and as a person when considering your actions, policies, and support than to view it as a you would a person. I do not think it is effective to think of a person as a machine.
As a machine it will have instructions, procedures, objectives that are spelled out. For Wal-Mart the big thing for years has been return prior to taxes. The fact, that as a result of this policy, it is systematically reducing the buying power of the middle class and thus its customer base is of no matter to the corporate body. Wal-Mart will continue to pay Americans little for its labor and eliminate domestic markets for American produced products while keeping its best face before the American people. Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, J P Getty, Bill Gates, and other people who have been successful created foundations to help people. Wal-Mart will never create such a foundation.On Wal-Mart is not a person posted 3 years, 3 months ago 17 Responses
Ownership and Risk
Here is one of those cases where the owner is not sufficiently vested in the outcome, because the owner passes the risk to the workers.
So step one put the owner at risk by impounding and selling off boats and then not allowing the owner to purchase such impounded boats for a period of time.
This would likely cause the owners to reduce the motivation of the workers to commit crimes by the owners providing the crew with supplies, fair pay, and an incentive bonus.On Fishing laws aren't being enforced posted 3 years, 3 months ago 4 Responses
Trust Them?
Sure I can trust them, whatever that might mean. Doubt that I will buy anything at their stores. Times are changing, maybe someday I will shop there, but I am not there yet. Still I support their decision to "go green", great concept, should draw some into their stores and likely to better serve some of their current customers. On Why won't America's environmentalists accept positive developments? posted 3 years, 3 months ago 22 Responses
Technology Can Be A Good Thing
I think it is mistake to rely on the technology of the past. Times change. Technology should not be frozen. Small farmers do use modern technology. They are adapt technology faster than do the big pig barns and feed lots.
I think the real issue that is of concern to you is religion and belief in God and the power of prayer. Prayer and spritual belief is an important part of the human experience. While Pat Robertson may speak to some he certainly does not speak to all people who hold a spritual connection. Yes, I understand that there is power in numbers when it comes to sprituality, for ultimately sprituality is related to how we treat one another and the respect we hold for others and ourselves. It is hard to respect ourselves and not respect others.On Why the late, lamented Doha round wasn't really the answer for ag policy. posted 3 years, 3 months ago 21 Responses
The Problem Is The Administration
The problem is the administration of the farm program. Under better administration the farm program could shape agriculture in a direction that promotes farming in a more responsible manner.
Don't blame the tool.On Why the late, lamented Doha round wasn't really the answer for ag policy. posted 3 years, 3 months ago 21 Responses
Say One Thing, Do Another
Many say they hate public corporate farming, saying that such farms just care about the bottom line, have no respect for the land they farm, and are totally impersonal. But of course that is what they are, that is their nature, and to expect anything else is to seek milk from a coke machine.
Small farmers are committed to their human scaled operations generally operated by family members and maybe a few hired hands who have been with the family for sometime. They farm the land so that it can be preserved. Any small farmer who does not maintain their land will not be able to continue farming very long.
Take away the farm program and it will be the ones who watch the bottom line and take advantage of externalities to reduce its operating costs who will win and those who work on the human scale who will fail.
Farming is a good life and there is not much money in it, there is a sense of self-reliance. Farmers pray alot, it is part of the job and one of the better risk management tools they have. It is a way of life that once extinct will be as hard to recover as any other life form.
Our farm system is rooted in 20th century methods. It is going to have to change dramatically. Trucking food a thousand miles as the normal course of business is not durable. Subsidies help us as a society shape this change. It is one of the tools governments use to define what that government stand for, what it values, and where such a society seeks to find its future.
Subsidies might be poor business, but they are a part of good government.On Why the late, lamented Doha round wasn't really the answer for ag policy. posted 3 years, 3 months ago 21 Responses
John Kerry
I too feel as you write above concerning his approach to leadership. I must confess I never quite understood the pee in your hand statement, I suspect the orginal form was number 2. Now which hand do you want?On Kerry op-ed on global warming posted 3 years, 3 months ago 2 Responses
Sorry Sunflower
Went to help find a reference for your position as I knew you were correct as I was in the business back then. However, busy day and I was not able to complete my post until you already filled using the same reference.
In any case let's not get in a rush to build nuclear today when solar and wind are ready today and can only get better over time.On How to tell future generations about nuclear waste posted 3 years, 3 months ago 40 Responses
Sorry Sunflower
Went to help find a reference for your position as I knew you were correct as I was in the business back then. However, busy day and I was not able to complete my post until you already filled using the same reference.
In any case let's not get in a rush to build nuclear today when solar and wind are ready today and can only get better over time.On Nuclear power is complicated, dangerous, and definitely not the answer posted 3 years, 3 months ago 40 Responses
WSSPP Default
Sunflower let me help you on the default matter. Here is a good site for the infamous WSSPP default http://historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5482
The default, meaning bonds that were unable to secure sufficient revenue to make its required posting to pay its coupons, was on the order of 2.4 billion.
These power plants were being planned when electricity growth was assummed to 7% per year or more. What happen between 1975 and 1982 is that this growth rate dropped to 2%. Suddenly there was no need for all these power plants.
Other projects also failed at the same time, but others continued on to opertion. Some were converted to natural gas or lead to the bankruptcy of the purchasing utility.On How to tell future generations about nuclear waste posted 3 years, 3 months ago 40 Responses
WSSPP Default
Sunflower let me help you on the default matter. Here is a good site for the infamous WSSPP default http://historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5482
The default, meaning bonds that were unable to secure sufficient revenue to make its required posting to pay its coupons, was on the order of 2.4 billion.
These power plants were being planned when electricity growth was assummed to 7% per year or more. What happen between 1975 and 1982 is that this growth rate dropped to 2%. Suddenly there was no need for all these power plants.
Other projects also failed at the same time, but others continued on to opertion. Some were converted to natural gas or lead to the bankruptcy of the purchasing utility.On Nuclear power is complicated, dangerous, and definitely not the answer posted 3 years, 3 months ago 40 Responses
Wage Caps and China Labor Unions
I read that same article, only I picked up a copy of the LA Times business section someone prior to me left on the cafe counter. The wage caps concept is probably the most innovative thing in the policy but it the one that is least discussed. I imagine the wage cap means that over time one does not get wage increases related to general inflation, in order to get wage increase one must advance in title. In other words, five years from now the old time employees will make less than the new hires. Certainly a new model.
I doubt if labor unions work the same in China as they do in the USA.On Wal-Mart's green makeover posted 3 years, 3 months ago 7 Responses
Just Cause It's Cynical Doesn't Mean It's Not True
G.R.L. makes a cynical, but very likely a true, point that for a number of policymakers the tax revenue associated with gasoline is tempting to keep in place. It is one of my cynical concerns regarding a carbon tax. A carbon tax will create a desire, for a significant number of policymakers, to keep the carbon burning.On California failin' posted 3 years, 4 months ago 3 Responses
Coolness of Deep Sea or Ocean
Why might the coolness of the deep sea not be renewable?
It would seem to me that the cycle of radiant energy associated with the rotation of the earth, day and night, would create heating and cooling which gravity would then order such that the cool would be beneath the warm, provided temperature of water is above 39FOn Geothermal energy posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
The 9 Million Figure
The 9 million a day figure is a crude oil export figure, the 12 million a day figure is gross production figure that includes crude oil export, their own needs, plus liquid by products.
A good public source for such data is the Energy Information Agency of the DOE.On Canadian Dimension on peak oil posted 3 years, 4 months ago 30 Responses
Why I Think SA Has Not Peaked
The production level continue to increase with only a couple of hundred wells over the last ten years. They had 800 wells for a production rate of 9,000,000 a day, they increased it to a little over a 1000 and increased the production to 12,000,0000 a day. That is pretty linear.
As we got close to our peak in the 50s and 60s our drilling went through the roof and production per well decreased. As we got close to the peak in natural gas in North America the same pattern occurred, lots of drilling and declining production per well.
I have seen the same information regarding SA having peaked, but it looks like they need only drill more wells. We used water injection in north america prior to our production peak as well.On Canadian Dimension on peak oil posted 3 years, 4 months ago 30 Responses
Desert Nights Are Cool Too
There are a lot of swamp coolers out in the desert. Palm Springs has a lot of them as well as the high pressure mist generators. I think amazingdrx is right on target regarding ground source heat pump.
Another neat idea I learn about from talking with a professor from U of California at Riverside is night cooling in the desert. As I understand it because it is so dry in the desert the night sky is especially good at soaking up heat on a radiant basis. The radiant temperature of the night sky can be like 30 degrees F cooler than the air.On Swamp coolers posted 3 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
In The End I Expect Texas Will Not Buid Wind
I suspect that Texas will build the 11 coal fired plant they intent to build or if not that then nuclear. I do not see Texas building wind, I think they will be successful in stopping that source in favor of the other two. From what I have seen of Texas if it is renewable then who needs it.On Locking in global warming posted 3 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
Have Been Up All Night Working On Unit
We have been up all night working on getting our natural gas unit off line. That unit is the Magnolia Power Project. There have been problems with the turning gear. When a power plant is shut down it is hot, it is important to keep it turning so it does not sag and catch upon itself. We have had some problems with that, but my operations manager informs me that we have been able to shut it down and are proceeding on shut down without lockup. We are taking the unit off line so we can clean it. It is near the I-5 freeway and the soot from the trucks does create problems. We will have to water wash. The heat wave has seem to have passed. But I suspect the next one will will not be far behind. We expect to have everything working right and be back on line by Saturday.On Locking in global warming posted 3 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
There are problems with wind
Need I remind you that that many find there are a lot of issues with wind. They want a perfect supply of power and appear to be willing stop wind in order for coal to go forward. I think they are short sighted, but I do not care what happens in Texas. I do not think they will get there projects approved in a timely manner. In the end suspect that the protestors will be able to stop wind Texas easier than the coal and if not coal then nuclear. We will find it easy to kill wind.On Locking in global warming posted 3 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
Peak Oil Does Not Equal The End of Oil
The middle east has a lot of oil. To put that into view consider that with all of their production, nearly 12,000,000 barrels of oil per day they do this with only about 1000 oil wells. We on the other hand require 400,000 to do 8,000,000 barrels a day. It is clear that the SA is to the left of the peak oil suppy curve.
There is still oil to be found in Siberia, the Mexican Gulf of Mexico, Siberia, and in Southeast Asia. Peak oil production is still a ways off, but not too far off only ten or twenty years according to the experts.
We will in the end run out of oil.
Yes those with oil will attempt to derail oil alternatives, and they will be successful when they lower their price, but in the end we must understand how unstable their price will be on into the future.
I say seek price stability not the lowest price. Sounds crazy, but that is what stability means, go with the long term for that is where the successful live, and we will be successful. Do not sell off the current for the future. In other words do not depend upon middle east oil.On Canadian Dimension on peak oil posted 3 years, 4 months ago 30 Responses
Calculations Are Difficult
It is so easy to make an error in this reporting. The record keeping is new and it requires data that has not been required before. When energy passes through a chain of providers who is the one who gets charged with its associated CO2? For example, in the case of Portland, does the CO2 count towards PacifiCorp from its coal fired plants in Wyoming or to the City of Portland for the electricity it uses made from such plant of PacifiCorp? If PacifiCorp bought the energy used by Portland city from Portland General as a wholesale purchase does it count against Portland General, PacifiCorp, or Portland city?On Some Portland skepticism posted 3 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses
Carbon Trading
I have been involved in these trades. They can work, but there is an element alive and well in the development of the rules that seeks to make such trading ineffective. It takes good science and political skill to keep them at bay. I am not so dumb as to think markets don't work, it just takes some intelligence to make sure they work, and for what ever reason I find regulatory agencies at a the underdog in such debates. We have to insure that the trading makes sense.On Carbon trading in the news posted 3 years, 4 months ago 16 Responses
It is the tomatoes
Say Biodiversivist it is primarily the tomatoes. Go with a few of those bacon BLT, then check out those made with good smoked cheese, now not the same but still PDG. Of course while you willl reduce your use of meat your fat content of your meal will probably go up, but that is not a bad thing. Tastes great.
We checked out the 3D movie of Monster House this afternoon. It was a fun movie, and I enjoyed the 3D. I did note that when motion increases the motion blurs. Think they will need a higher frame rate to make this 3D work. But I understand that is the next step.On 'Tis the Season (to BLT or not to BLT) posted 3 years, 4 months ago 16 Responses
1990 Is the Standard
Down in Burbank CA we have been working at that 1990 standard and have been seeking to go below that standard. We believe we have but are having the National Climate Registery check our work once more. It is not easy to be keeping up with growth and still reducing CO2. But it can be done, and it seems without economic impact, but I suspect one can not be lazy in carrying out the mission. On Kristof vu posted 3 years, 4 months ago 1 Response
Good Ideas
I hate cooking indoor when I am running the A/C. You are so right about wisdom of mayonnaise being in direct contact with tomatoes. I also have found that salt in similar direct contact is important as well. I wonder what seperatly seasoning the lettuce with a complimentary flavored salt or some subtle spice would do? Maybe incorporating some basil leaves as well.
I am going to Monster House 3D this afternoon, have to try this recipe after the movie.
In order to further reduce household heating turning A/C time I would like to eliminate the toast, maybe go with a salad format with some appropriate crunchy bread from the bakery.
What should we call those who seek to eliminate or reduce CO2 from their food preparation? And of course the reduction of methane production during digestion would be a worthwhile endeavor as well.On 'Tis the Season (to BLT or not to BLT) posted 3 years, 4 months ago 16 Responses
atmospheric science study and practice
I think the best place is UCAR at Boulder, CO. It is associated the National Center for Atmospheric Research. I went to South Dakota School of Mines and Technology and they have an extension of UCAR/NCAR at the campus that did a lot of cloud models and cloud chemistry research back in 70s when I was an engineering student.
Nice thing about NCAR is the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, NREL, is nearby in Golden, CO. On 'Tis the Season (for strawberry shortcake) posted 3 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses
Well Said Sunflower
I agree with Sunflower. I never went to high speed internet to work from home (I hate working at home, I like an office and facilities with people to work with), downloading movies (I hardly watch movies). I got high speed internet because I wanted the pages to download faster.
I want renewables in order to improve the environment. I live in LA and we have made great strides in air quality and live ability but have a long way to go. Renewables will cost more, but we should willingly pay because of the environmental pay off.
I have also been involved in the fiber optic communications. One of the reasons Burbank has the movie industry is because of this unique service. My analysis was that until one can sell on price do not depend upon the residential market. When one can only sell on value sell to early adopters and businesses. I suspect the best customers for renewable energy will be businesses before it will be residential.On The Prius Bubble posted 3 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses
Silly Statements
Power Systems have used fossil fuel plants for years and loads have always varied. The efficiencies are not as good at half load, but I would hardly call it drastic. Fossil fuel plants can change loads at rates of 3 MW/minute for boilers to 10 MW/minute for combustion turbines. Nuclear plants, operate with reliability of 80%, coal at 90%, and natural gas at 90%.
We need more renewables, but not because fossil plants are unreliable and can not change loads fast enough or even because they are not efficient at partial loading. We need renewables to improve fuel diversity, reduce price risk, reduce emissions, and reduce environmental footprints. Renewables are not less costly, and if we try to sell them on price we will fail, at least for now, in the future they will be the least cost.
Distributed energy is an exciting approach that may soon be feasible. I have been trying to develop distributed systems for 30 years and it has been an up hill battle. Concentrating solar seems to be the best hope I have seen. On Perfect for all your global warming needs posted 3 years, 4 months ago 4 Responses
Heat and Steam Turbines
The reason USA nuclear plants work and France units have problems during the heat is the capability of the cooling towers. Cooling towers at nuclear plants are sometimes those tall mod art shaped towers and other times they use a box like structure like other steam plants. In any case the purpose of these towers is to provide the cooling water to cool the condenser in the steam turbine to condense the steam back to water so it can be pumped back to the steam generator to be converted back into steam and to provide the suction that draws the steam through the turbine so it can more efficiently power the steam turbine.
When it gets hot the cooling tower fails to cool the cooling water enough, the condenser converts the steam to liquid slower, it slows the mass flow through the turbine, and it reduces its suction. Net result less power out.
Saving money on the cooling tower can be bad economics, but it is a design decision that is made fairly often. It is difficult to go in and make a cooling tower bigger.On Perfect for all your global warming needs posted 3 years, 4 months ago 4 Responses
Good Example of Tipping Point
Excellent example of a tipping point, that point or state where a natural process must run its course to its next stable point or state.On Drilling posted 3 years, 4 months ago 1 Response
Don't think US will clean it up
Sounds like maybe 3,000,000 to 4,000,000 barrel of number 2 oil went into the sea. I can not believe they failed to have secondary containment to contain this oil as well as site run-off control measures, I am assuming these failed. While a mess it is not crude oil. I checked the units at that power plant and they appear to be the kind that require refined oil, on the order of diesel. It will spread rapidly, and be out of sight. I suspect it will be ignored. I doubt that the US will want to clean it up, nor will Israel, nor Lebanon. I don't see any reason the US should clean it up.On Bombing yields massive oil spill off Lebanon beaches posted 3 years, 4 months ago 4 Responses
Is Wal Mart becoming Wal Green?
No I doubt it, I think they will still be Wal Mart. I think it is good business to practice good environmental standards, people, both employees and customers, respect it, it is frugal, and it will please God.
Wal Mart has a responsibility to it sharesholders that it does not have the luxury of ignoring without action from its it shareholders. I doubt that I could go out and sell stock, build up a profitable company, issue more stock, and then take the money and build churches in China.
The two points above are aligned, it is good business to support environmental standards and it is Wal Mart's responsibility to build shareholder wealth according to its corporate By-Laws. Wal Mart is behaving as many business should perform. We want companies to practice do this. This is why we encourage the public to favor such businesses, Wal Mart is doing the that which is in their best interests and it happens to be aligned with ours is not a coincidence. It is how the public message has been made.
Again we want companies to favor good environmental practices. We want customers to do business with companies who practice the best environmental results.
Wal Mart has neither heart nor soulOn Learning to love Wal-Mart posted 3 years, 4 months ago 14 Responses
Ok it is A Sin
Let's call it a sin and let God sort it out.
If we make it a law then we can.On Fossil fuel morality II posted 3 years, 4 months ago 12 Responses
Family Ties
Theodore Roosevelt IV, the grandson or great grandson of Teddy, is a significant backer of the Nantucket project, and is no friend of the Kennedys. The leaders of this project are not liberals. On Over 150 activists send letter asking Kennedy to reconsider position posted 3 years, 4 months ago 21 Responses
Constitutional based laws not moral
From a historically basis we have gotten in trouble when we seek to implement laws based on moral issues. It seems best if we act upon constitional grounds, a document that was to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity which we amended to include more than simply white males.
I believe that what we did regarding slavery was in accordance with a growing view of the constitutional application of liberty.
Perhaps we need an environmental amendment to the constitution.On Talking point: Fossil fuel morality posted 3 years, 4 months ago 22 Responses
Renewables Priority In California
Fortunately renewables are a priority in California, unlike most other states where coal fired plants are under consideration if not construction. We have to break the circle.
This heat wave is a strong one, with humidity that we have not seen in about ten years. On top of that the over night low did not dip below 76. More conservation, peak load management, and efficiency is needed as well. As well as better outage management.
Looking forward to this next wave solar photovoltaic.On Vicious circle posted 3 years, 4 months ago 2 Responses
No Problem With Paying, Density Is the Issue
Is it wrong for municipals to charge such developers fees?
I think developer's should pay such fees. Where I think the deal went wrong was the town's insistence that density not exceed 4.3 units per acre, the City's standard for development. This is for seniors, seniors don't do enjoy working big lawns. The density could have been much higher, at least 16. Further, they should have made some commericial development near the border for medical, groceries, restaurants, etc. The developer is quoted saying that they wanted higher density.
In my experience it is not the developers who are causing these low densities and resisting mixed use, it is city planners.On Sprawl bribery is beating smart growth posted 3 years, 4 months ago 2 Responses
We Have Moved From Home
There is a story from my past of how man and woman took action together and as a result gained knowledge that took us away from that intimate relationship we may have once had with nature. Over time we have isolated ourselves from nature, building homes, making increasingly processed foods, and developing lifestyles quite removed from nature.On Some quasi-philosophical blather posted 3 years, 4 months ago 17 Responses
Would This Be Advocating Adaptation?
It would seem that these learned people are advocating a strategy of adaptation, not living in harm's way of global warming related events, while simply assuming that everything will work out, eventually.
I tend to agree with them, at least when I am my optimistic self. It is important that we adapt so that people are not hurt or needlessly disposed of their housing. While I believe this strategy will be as self-evident as seeking cover in a storm, I am not at this time certain what we might do to get out of harm's way. I suspect moving back to New Orleans or investing in rental property there might be a sample of those questions that we should seriously consider before acting.
On The hurricane problem posted 3 years, 4 months ago 3 ResponsesSome Scientist Do Say It Is Weather
Some Scientists who work for environmental firms do tell their clients that there is insufficient study to conclude that man made global warming exists.On Wow posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Keeper
I intend to keep this as a example of what my technical friends will face if they continue to say "it is just the weather" and then to their horror they are wrong. These conservatives are not their friends, they will be sold down the river in two seconds, to them scientist are just nerds who can't even build things.On Wow posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Progressive Carbon Tax
Aaron you remarked if the tax is progressive this could create incentive to emit less as you increase your emissions. I am unsure what this means. CO2 emissions are produced by people when they drive, by corporations when they drive, and by corporations when electricity is produced. It would seem only the case of CO2 emission associated with driving by the general public that could be made progressive, as in the other two cases such costs would be a cost of goods and reflected in the price that would be paid by all for such goods or services. Or do you mean that the more CO2 mass a single entity generates the per unit tax should increase, like $6 per ton up to a million tons, then $10 per ton for tonage between 1 and 5 million tons, then $20 per ton and so on?On A "simple remedy" for global warming posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Tax or Trade
I have had some experience in tradable credits for NOx control here in Southern California. It took some time to craft but in the end it was one of the programs that has reduced smog alerts in LA from over 200 a year to less than one every three years today.
However, it takes time to craft what can be traded. CO2 will be particularly tricky because it is so complex. I think we need to start with something simple, like the old fashion command and control technology that we have tried before and simply burn less coal, oil, and natural gas to make electricity.
The coal tax method might work, but I expect it will mean we just pass along a tax to the end user and in the end we don't cut CO2 we just collect more tax that can go and support the war effort. On A "simple remedy" for global warming posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Sioux Indian Tribe, Lower Brule, SD
Check out the Lower Brule Indian tribe in Lower Brule SD, good example of how you can mix private ownership with tribal ownership so that together the whole tribe is improves.On A challenge to all of those enamored with common property ownership posted 3 years, 4 months ago 20 Responses
Municipal, County, State, or Federal
When we talk about the commons to whom will we entrust its management, the nearby municipal, the county, the state, or the Federal? In some states counties do not have legislative authority, so the county may be problematic in those states. It would seem that each of these bodies have a different character.
If we are talking about collective ownership like a golf course where a not for profit corporation owns the land for the exclusive use of its members that is another deal. One that for many looks like private ownership.
Cerritos, California owns much of the land in Cerritos and allows businesses to use the land with long term leases that regulate the use of the land and requires they cooperate in joint marketing. Its "Auto Square" is one of the most successful in the nation. It allows for better returns to the City than simply sharing the sales tax with the state. On The "Four E's" of environmental improvement posted 3 years, 4 months ago 43 Responses
Concentrated Solar
I believe concentrated solar has a future, especially PV concentrated solar. I see that IdeaLabs Energy Innovations has PV concentrator called "Sunflower," interesting name there. Hope to get something going with them or similar.
Electric utilities in Southern California are working on developing a new solar project in the Mohave. Unfortunately, the cost of a major central station approach, thermo concentrated solar, seems to get more expensive as we get closer to a deal while solar PV concentrators seems to get less expensive. Still we may do a deal, even if it is more expensive, as it is new technology that holds promise.
I like the PV concentrators better than the thermo ones, as they can be located closer to the load.
I have not found the resistance to new technology that Sunflower speaks with the electric utilities whom I have associated. At least I have not found it any worst than most people. Innovation usually has a price to pay. To the creative who find the world is not beating a path to their door I recommend Rollo May's "The Courage to Create", he speaks of the trials associated with creating.
On Concentrated solar posted 3 years, 4 months ago 8 ResponsesFine Apartment Small Garden
One of the advantages of rural life is space. Actually have some room for some pets as well maybe a local pond to store some rain water as well as fresh fish from time to time.
If a person could make the farming thing work there is a potential for a whole new class of residential/agriculture life style development.On Brown gets down posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
California Coast
There are a number of places along the California coast, like Carmel and Eureka that are chilly along the coast year round. Can be hot of course but such is rare. Also quickly warms up as one goes inland.On Hot posted 3 years, 4 months ago 14 Responses
Disclaimer
My glasses got broken and it has been hard to read the small print of the Post a Comment window using these 54 year old eyes. You younger people, enjoy it while you can. I am getting my eyes tested on Wednesday and new glasses soon after that.On Brown gets down posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Math
I got the above $72 to $75 by multipling the last oil peak prices of the 1979/1980 era by the consumer price index increase.On Oil hits $78/barrel posted 3 years, 4 months ago 10 Responses
Cost of Oil
In real terms, that being consumer buying power, this appears to be the highest price for oil ever. When I used the 3 month average price, a figure I believe reflects the cost experienced as a refiner who hedges its requirements rather than buying all of its needs on the spot market, and a CPI of 80 for 1980 and 200 for today I get a price more like $72 to $75 dollars.
This is historic.On Oil hits $78/barrel posted 3 years, 4 months ago 10 Responses
Ever Think About Being a Farmer?
The midest grows corn, wheat, soybeans, oats, milo, and other similar cereals because these products can be easily stored, shipped to markets where they can be converted to food products, and are not lablor intensive. People in these areas do not yet believe that It is practical to raise those food crops that can spoil, must be hand picked, or processed before shipment as there simply are not enough people living in these rural areas and they are over 200 miles from urban markets greater than 100,000 people.. If people are interested they can move out to South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and rurual Texas and rent some dry land and give carrots, lettuce,tomatoes, fresh peas, squash, and other produce a try. I suspect with proper planning a person could make a living doing so, but I might very well be wrong. My uncle used to sell watermelons in South Dakota and was able to make a living. A number of religious groups have been successful as well.
For those people whom the concept of getting packed into a 650 square foot apartment in a city holds little appeal the concept of operating a vegatable farm in rurual america might be attractive. It may even be a theme for a new kind of residential development where people move to these rurual areas, live with other like minded people and grow real vegetables that people can eat which they collectively harvest, process, and get to market.
Crazy idea, probably too romantic to be sound, but it does have a human scale to it that has an appeal. It may be possible to have a four to five month growing season in the North and maybe as long as seven in the South if one plans it right.On Brown gets down posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Cost of etanol
The cost of raw corn kernels and grain is a very small part of the cost of producing food from those corn and grain. Yet the cost of corn and grain is a large part of the cost to make etanol. Therefore, an increase in the price of corn and grain will affect the price of etanol more than it will affect the price of corn and grain food products.
Therefore, food is more likely to substain market positon in a price war with non-potable etanol.On Brown gets down posted 3 years, 4 months ago 7 Responses
Food will not replace oil
Food will not replace oil, it will only create an alternative for a portion of the market, most likely it will be used by those who produce food so that food production can be de-coupled some degree from the cost of oil.
Food will not replace oil simply because there is not enough land to produce enough fuel, assuming we grown the tradiational crops.
I expect using food to make fuel will have a bullish effect on grain prices. Has anyone compared grain prices as a function of time? Those prices have been pretty flat the last fifty years. Having grown up on a South Dakota farm that my family still operates I understand how thin the profits are from that operation.
Corn's biggest use is to make soda pop, not sure how important that is for the world's food supply.On Food vs. fuel posted 3 years, 4 months ago 13 Responses
EOR How Much if Any CO2 Stays
Howard makes a very good point. I have not heard this before but it makes sense. The following report from EPRI speaks to the issue:
"http://www.energy.ca.gov/process/pubs/electrotech_opps_tr113836.pdf"It appears even with recovery of the CO2 dissolved in the recovered oil half of the CO2 will be released.
Drat...
On Coal gasification posted 3 years, 4 months ago 13 ResponsesCool
Checked it out and it just might be an appropriate set up to team up with my Macs. In fact I think it would be a nice replacement for my G3 iMac. I like the format of the unit. I love its energy efficiency. While I love my Apples it would be nice to have something to play the Windows stuff as I understand it Microsoft is becoming popular.On The Jinglehorse EcoSystem posted 3 years, 4 months ago 2 Responses
Real Grillers Don't Use Foil
Foil, poo I say. Why use foil? Griller generally grill and smokers generally smoke, neither need us foil. If one must braise and this is the best approach for tough cuts of meat, try the oven using a temperature of 225 putting the spare ribs in a cake pan with the braising liquid covered with a cookie sheet. Then after the internal temperature reaches 160, approx 2.5 hours, take them out and finish on the grill as you would toast bread. On Umbra on recycling foil posted 3 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses
No Injustice Then No Issue
If there is no injustice then there is no environment justice problem. There is tendency to site faciliities based on social issues that favor one class over another on a regular basis. As a result an injustice may occur.
I think the issue associated with environmental justice goes beyond rich and poor, it is about sharing in the burdens of infrastructure across all people while protecting certain areas. However, there seems to few power resources near the rich, yet they are large consumers of power. That in and of itself is not an environmental justice issue but on a larger scale it may be.
Water view property has incresed in value over the years. As a result there has been a tendency for such property to be owned by those with above average income and wealth. Off shore wind is a potential wind source that has an extra-ordinarly high capacity factor and may be capable of supporting as much as 5MW units. If siting such units in view of the rich is an issue it will eliminate many good renewable energy sites close to load and force instead other resources inland. Most likely these inland resources will be located near another class of people.
To me that seems to be a valid Environmental Justice issue.On STFU posted 3 years, 4 months ago 28 Responses
Environmental Justice
In the licensing of our last power plant the California Energy Commission had us perform an Environmental Justice survey and report. At the time, 2001, I was not aware of environmental justice. I had to come up to speed on it and while at first I found it kind of abstract and subject to abuse, over time I have come to value it as an important criteria for locating projects. Our project passed its environmental justice test with flying colors.
Wind has special siting issues in that the wind can vary greatly from one location to another just a mile or so away, but public use lands have a higher standard for environmental justice than does private use land. I know of one wind project that got relocated for some political reason and now that project has been used by the coal people as example of wind project don't perform.On STFU posted 3 years, 4 months ago 28 Responses
Who is Going After Renewables
California municipal electrics, the utilties whom the state could not force into de regulation are the ones seeking renewables in the West. Further, I have found that the local public support for renewables is quite positive. Work is underway in the legislature to require Southern Califonia Edison, San Diego Gas and Electric, and Pacific Gas and Electric to do likewise and include such purchases or developments in their rate base. Further AB 35, the greenhouse gas legislation, is under development and it to is being considered for the tradiation rate base return on equity approach. Unless such rate base approaches are implemented renewables, generally considered less proven than tradiational sources, will require a greater developmental cost and be subject to greater technological risk and thus higher cost of capital. If it were a rate base asset, it would significantly reduce the cost of capital for these developments. Recent estimates for cost of taxable bonds for tradiational non-by passable utility development is 5% compared with an equity cost of capital of nearly 15% for venture capital.
On Nuclear insanity posted 3 years, 4 months ago 10 ResponsesUniversal Solution or Local Solution
I noted a comment or two critical of a solution because it could not be applied through out the world. Me thinks that sounds like a criteria of the likes of Wal Mart or other global marketer of sorts. What is wrong with a solution that has local application? Every place to a degree has its own special blessings and evils, they do, or so I am told. I have had some success in taking advantage of that which is unique to my community, even if others may not be able to do like wise. As an example, we in Southern California have the potential to reap the energy well of the sun as photovoltaics come into their own, while our friends in Seattle might not be able to recoup the investment quite as fast.
I believe an element of the strategic renewable response is to capitalize upon the local energy wealth.On Burning through the wood posted 3 years, 4 months ago 27 Responses
Good Catch Stentor
An RO membrane passes water but not salt. I have never heard of a membrane that passes salt and not water. I checked with my water expert and he assured me that water passes and salt does not.
On Desalination posted 3 years, 4 months ago 2 ResponsesGet Back to Regulation
I think it is time we get back to the regulatory model and simply tell the utilities to build so much renewable generation and then allow them to charge appropriate rates.
I have seen little good out of de-regulation of electricity markets.On Nuclear insanity posted 3 years, 4 months ago 10 Responses
Well It Is Not Perfect
My boss, the General Manager the Burbank municipal electric utility, as well as a couple of our Board Members were more critical of the electric car than the movie and we had a lot of electric cars. They were and are strong supporters of the EV. Yes they were not ready for prime time. But they helped develop this next generation and it is better than the first. And I am sure from seeing stuff at CS Energy that the next generation will be better.
This is why it is so important to actually do something rather than just talk about it. Nothing gets to the point as much as real life.
We will not get it right the first time, it takes trials, we learn more each time. Sorry, that is just way creativity works in humans. You want perfect with no mistakes you will just have to speak to the politicians for they are never wrong, just ask them. (I make a little joke about the politicians, unfortunately it is not funny)
As far as the movie goes, it was fun to watch, saw lot of people I know, but it was entertainment. It has a message, that being do not give up on the electric car, but it is no deeper than that. The fuel cell is not dead, a lot of environmentalist support that technology without any support from big corporations. Again even that technology may or may not work out, but it is too soon to discount it.On Ex-GM employee responds on electric car posted 3 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
Lay person view
If the supreme court finds it is an emission that is to be covered by the clean air act then EPA has to get with the program and so include it. If the supreme court find that it is not an emission covered by the clean air act then EPA may not control such emissions under than authority. There has been surprise that at least four of the Justices have chosen to hear this matter.
In California the Air Resources Board has sought to control CO2 emissions from transportation sources. It has come under legal challenge. One finding has been that it is not an emission and therefore should not be regulated by the ARB but by the Department of Transportation. Some believe that if the Supreme Court takes EPA out of it then ARB would be free to makes its own regulations in its own matter, others are not so sure.
Clearly the states can regulate CO2 from sources within the State, provided the sources are not protected under the interstate commerce clause of the Constitution.
California is currently working on AB32 an effort by the state to reduce its CO2. This is better than the ARB simply taking the matter up on its own without specific legislative support, but the commerce clause would still stand, even with state legislation.
It works so much better for States and for Congress to write legislation that lays these matters out. On The Supreme Court's carbon-dioxide case posted 3 years, 4 months ago 6 Responses
Eggwash
I believe putting the vanilla in the cream, as per the instructions, is the thing to do. The eggwash reference in the ingredients list is likely an error. On 'Tis the Season (for strawberry shortcake) posted 3 years, 4 months ago 5 Responses
The Meaning of the Joke
I think the meaning of joke is that we environmentalist enjoy thinking and expressing our ideas,and we do that a lot. In fact when we think it is time to get serious we just raise the level of discussion, like to our economic system or the electricity grid and given time some version of what is the work of God and what is the work of mankind.
But we don't get to the business of getting the bulbs replaced, getting rid of old refrigeration equipment, planting shade trees, deploying shades, installing solar hot water systems, venting attic spaces better, using drip irrigation, growing at least some of our own food, canning our own produce, making 80% of our own meals in our homes, limiting our driving to less than 5000 miles a year, and those other practical things that we should do and show others how to do.
We can make strides in conservation and efficiency but it is boring work, but in the end we can meansure our efforts and see that we have made a difference.On Umbra on replacing light bulbs posted 3 years, 4 months ago 19 Responses
Gasification and Sequestering
There are oppurtunities to build some, cleary not hundreds, gasification plants and sequester for enhanced oil recovery. Granted these oppurtunties are limited to oil fields but generally the coal has to be shipped and it make more sense then to ship the coal and use the CO2 locally.
Consider TU recent annoucement to build 8 coal plants in Texas. Sound like a great place for enhanced oil recovery.
I am sure Texas rate payers would be happy, in the end, to pay the increased cost of coal gasification to help thir local oil production if not also to reduce CO2, which I am sure a significant number would also support. But getting any rate increase through is no small feat. Thing is would the Texas Commission rather see conventional coal with the most environmental impact, no support for oil production and least rate impact or ICCG with CO2 Capture with less environmental impact, CO2 for enhanced oil production, but higher rate impact. Often with regulatory bodies it is the rate impact that rules.On Coal gasification posted 3 years, 4 months ago 13 Responses
Next Cool Light LED
I just installed some of LED floodlights in my home. They are low level lighting, but use less energy than CFL, like 8 watts. They are expensive, about $40 a piece, but they are new. LED last much longer that CFL. Don't think they are ready for prime time yet, but early adopters should be buying them and checking them out.On Umbra on replacing light bulbs posted 3 years, 4 months ago 19 Responses
Tipping Points May Be Key To Setting Policy
These tipping points may be the key to intelligent policy making regarding reductions in CO2 and other behaviors that drive global warming.On Tipping points posted 3 years, 4 months ago 3 Responses
It is the conclusion
It is the conclusion, that if "we can not do anything about it" then we should simply get on with adaptation. It may well be that we can not do anything about it. We have no assurances that CO2 reductions will work. I am almost sure they will not work by themselves. We are also going to have stop getting rid of rain forests, clear cutting, and start managing our methane emissions as well as CO2. Somehow these actions start looking like adaptation as well.
Like Sunflower example, the smoker, it may very well mean the poor soul will require the cancer be removed, but in any case stop smoking. But it is not that simple.
I suspect that we can not go "cold turkey" on CO2 fast enough to save the polar caps. So what are we going to do, not adapt, and let the waters rise. Of course we will have to adapt.
We may have kicked into gear a string of natural events that are now not related to our production of CO2 and those events may not be undone for a very long time. And as we continue to produce CO2 we may make those natural events, and potentially other yet unknown natural events, even worse. We do not know if reductions will undo these events and reduce the global warming. Once the polar caps are gone it will be difficult for us to bring them back.
You have caused me to question reductions because I think you may be right in your conclusion "if we can not do anything about it" we should simply get on with adaptation. Because human based or not we may not be able to do anything but adapt in a timely manner.On What does it mean to say global warming is 'natural'? posted 3 years, 4 months ago 9 Responses
David's Point About Not Getting Beyond the Debate
First of all the Board liked the GHG reduction plan idea as well as the other points. So we will be putting a reduction plan together.
We all deal from our own environments. It is hard for me to understand the far right that Patrick speaks of as I don't know such people in my day to day life. I also don't understand people who think we can ignore global warming and that it is acceptable to not do anything. For the most part we are beyond the argument and it is not important who won because we are ready to take action.
Having had some time to consider this issue strategically I trust David. If we turn from the debate too soon the differences between the two positions will be less clear. It is better to keep the debate going on these issues, issues that in my little environment are very clear, but probably are not nearly so clear in other parts of the country, yet. I actually do like it when others deny that global warming even exists, that position is sounding dumb to more and more.
On Goldberg grapples with the big question posted 3 years, 4 months ago 16 ResponsesLovins
I have been a supporter of Amory Lovins since 1977, he has spoken at events I have had, and one of his key engineers is one of our advisors.
I appreciate you recognizing his visionOn Goldberg grapples with the big question posted 3 years, 4 months ago 16 Responses
Conservation then Efficiency
Conservation is our first priority and then efficiency. We have been giving a way CFL for almost ten years as well as trading out halogen. Many other programs as well. As a result we have kept demand and energy at very much the same level for twenty years. We have improved efficiency greatly as well and renewables are now being added and more under development.
Using conservation and efficiency we have shrunk our CO2 to less than 1990 levels, but I question if this is enough.
BTW, we are a municipal, it is not about profits, it is adding value to the community.On Goldberg grapples with the big question posted 3 years, 4 months ago 16 Responses
Troubling
David your logic is good, but I find it troubling. I now have less faith in the wisdom of reduction than I did before considering your words. I suspect we may not be able to reduce enough, soon enough. And in effect, reduction will be seen as a failure. However, I remain supportive of reductions.
I see now that reduction may be seen as foolish under two conditions, one, if CO2 rise is natural (unlikely, but I have been wrong before), two, if reduction will not be effective in preventing serious outcomes, say melting of the polar caps.
I don't believe I can promise the latter with even a 50% probability with reduction targets that go out to 2050. I find little support for reduction targets that will significantly affect life as we know it today.
Tonight I am proposing to our Board a policy that Burbank Water and Power, with other Southern California municipalities, prepare a CO2 reduction plan to determine how much CO2 we can reduce and at what costs.
Nature or human, if reduction can work to reduce global warming I support them, realizing it could in fact be too late for such reductions to remove all threats from our future. We need to know more, but that ignorance is not an excuse for failing to act.
On Goldberg grapples with the big question posted 3 years, 5 months ago 16 ResponsesInformation for Caniscandida
The Coachella Valley Water District is the one that impressed me with their water conservation efforts in agriculture, while Imperial Irrigation District seemed less earnest in seeking the benefits of conservation.On A chat with freshwater experts Peter Gleick and William K. Reilly posted 3 years, 5 months ago 14 Responses
Water Water Everywhere, But Not A Drop To Drink
Good interview, to those who are interested in this subject I recommend the late Marc Reisner's book Cadillac Desert, a classic by a man who died much too early.
Ag is key to the USA water future. Treatment is key to the world's water future. For most of the world treating water and bottling it is the most practical option. To supplement bottling, there needs to be means to refill clean containers for immediate use.
There is a lot of water in the world, but much of it is not fit for long term human consumption. However, water is a wonderful molecule, with unique character that makes it ideal for isolation. Salt is a difficult one to seperate, but it can be done. $600 an acre foot is a good estimate of the general cost to produce water, but the not to exceed cost is on the order of $5000 an acre for highly filtered RO water using $.10/kWh power.
Water for ag uses is an issue, but if one starts with good land, rather than flooding land to remove dissolved salts and increasing its salt and dissolved solids, it is surprising how little water is needed. For example the farmers north of the Salton Sea in California get by with a fraction, like a tenth, of the water used by the farmers south of the Salton Sea. The difference is water allocation. If they are allocated less, they use less.
We have to get over our adversion to recycled water. Recycled water is great for many non-potable applications.On A chat with freshwater experts Peter Gleick and William K. Reilly posted 3 years, 5 months ago 14 Responses
I knew competence and you sir, are not competent
Less than 6 weeks ago Lloyd Bensen died, the man you dared question Dan Quayle's assertion that he, Quayle, was very much like President Kennedy by saying to Senator Quayle in the 1988 VP debate "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine, Senator, you're no Jack Kenndey"
Well I know commpetence. Competence does not tear up a country and then leave it a mess for three years going on infinity with little hope for even getting the lights back on for another 5 or more years, let alone water. It took Truman less than three year to re-supply Japan.
Competence in administration is not continuing the building of more and more nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers to fight battles with super powers that no longer exist. Competence would build up those skills to re-build and re-store.
Competence in making this land of the free and home of the brave is not by holding people without charging them under due process, nor monitoring everyones' every move, nor making laws out of fear that take away our freedoms. Free people who are brave will not trade their liberty or that of its citizens out of fear.
No, competence is about doing that that is good and doing such things well. It is not doing that that is bad and the doing of such bad things well.
This is the double speak that we have all heard. It is not competent, it is a trick.On Our ongoing environmental and economic setbacks are the successes of the current administration's co posted 3 years, 5 months ago 6 Responses
My Only Friend, The End
The subject title being from Jim Morrison's The End. The remarks here sounds like 1966 and Jim Morrison, John Lennon, and Robert Zimmermann. Only now it is not just war, capitalism, and the fascist government that has linked the two. No, now it is about the end of cheap oil and climate change, coupled with the potential lost of cheap labor and other dangers.
This is probably a time of change as great or greater than what I sense many of us have experienced forty years ago when the Vietnam war and its favor began to come into question when enough to make a difference began to ask why are we there?
Kevin Phillips back in 1966 spoke of the changes that were coming based on his studies of the cycles of change in the United States. He is saying that changes are due once more. William Strauss and Neil Howe speak today of trends that reach back to 1584 also target the next ten to 14 years as times of great change, on par with WWII. On top of that I hear more talk today of the second coming of Christ, the end of Mayan calendar, and something called "the quickening" that all have an end of the world theme. And on top of it all, I got at work today "Pocket Guide for Preparing for Pandemic Flu"
Mr. Roberts you are not the only one that is seeing less than happy times ahead, and probably not a lot of independence for a while as well. I suspect there are dangerous times ahead.
I acknowledge your mood and share it. Well the holiday is over and it is time to get back to the day to day work of keeping this planet together. I suspect the Internet will be an important media instrument of this era, as TV was in 1966. On Happy Independence Day, only without the happy part posted 3 years, 5 months ago 13 Responses
Second that Motion
I second the recognization of a nice piece of logic and its presentations...good job canis!On Lindzen: dishonest; News anchors: stupid posted 3 years, 5 months ago 20 Responses
Global Warming Bet
While I fail to find the consensus for global warming Gore and others have found, I have found no one willing to take the following wager: Are you willing to wager $2X for $X that this year will not be warmest year on record?On Lindzen: dishonest; News anchors: stupid posted 3 years, 5 months ago 20 Responses
Environmental Jobs and Salaries
I believe there are a growing number of professional environmental jobs. That being jobs that require that a person hold a degree in environmental science and would have the education required to evaluate environmental impacts, determine the standards required to collect environmental data, evaluate environmental data, and recommend measures to reduce adverse environmental impacts. There are technician jobs available as well. That being jobs that require an ability to execute the collection of data required for environmental studies, file the various forms required for environmental compliance, collect the required data for such forms, and conduct specific formalized environmental tests. Typically experience takes a person along a career path in air quality, land management, facility management, hazardous materials, water quality, wildlife management, or development. Such career paths can be with private companies, regulatory agencies, or governmental bodies, and, of course, consultants who work for all three. Out of school these professionals earn about $60,000 but can quickly increase to a range of $80,000 to $100,000. Technicians salaries can vary greatly and are generally paid hourly, typically $15 for the lower level jobs to as much as $40 for the higher level. URS is one of the largest employers of such professionals. Fire departments across the country are often required to have HazMat professionals. The movie studios all have environmental sections that attend to the environmental issues associated with location work as well as the studio facilities. Most consulting firms I know find recruiting new professionals a competitive undertaking, meaning they often fail to fill all their openings.On What jobs are included in the environmental field? posted 3 years, 5 months ago 14 Responses
GM Grabed Failure From Jaws of Success
I saw the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car" yesterday. It was a special movie to me. I am an energy guy in Burbank and a supporter of electric vehicles and infrastructure. I know and work with a number of those in the movie. It seemed very much like a home made movie.
GM will be judged in a harsh light, as well they should. Not only for what they did, but for what they have failed to do. Flex fuel is fine, as flex fuel can work with plug in hybrids. But GM was in the leader position and they blew it. They had everything going for a good long term position as leader of the next major generation of transportation, vital at this stage of Asia'a development, but they fell and took a bad bruise.
I think what happen to GM was that when Robert Stempel, now the president of Energy Conversion Devices, lead GM he had the vision of the electric car. Unfortunately, in 1990 the Board got rid of him and with him his vision. Too often such vision does not pass to the next in line, and all too often that next in line does not want that vision that might be now viewed as a loser.
Energy Conversion Devices, the company Robert Stempel now leads, is one of the Stanford Ovshinsky companies that is making the technology for electric cars. Corporate leadership is vital for the successful of any company, no matter how large. GM still has a major stake in Asia, but will they be able to maintain it? Hard to tell, they made a blunder.On Electric cars: Don't call it a comeback posted 3 years, 5 months ago 2 Responses
John Kennedy's Moon Speech
Here are parts of that speech of John F. Kenedy regarding the moon at Rice in September 1962 up-dated
Despite the striking fact that most of the scientists that the world has ever known are alive and working today, despite the fact that the Nation's own scientific manpower is doubling every 12 years in a rate of growth more than three times that of our population as a whole, despite that, the vast stretches of the unknown and the unaswered we remain still collectivily dependent upon oil and coal.
William Bradford, speaking in 1630 of the fonding of Plymouth Bay Colony, said that all great and honorable actions are accompanied with great difficulties, and both must be enterprised and overcome with answerable courage.
Man, in his quest for energy and progress, is determined and cannot be deterred. The development of meaningful plentiful renewable power will go ahead wheather we join in it or not, and it is one of the great adventures of all time, and no nation which expects to be the leader of the other nations can continue its addiction to oil.
We choose to build renewable energy and dramatically reduce greenhouse gases. We choose to replace our coal plants, dramatic reduce our oil dependency, and cut greenhouse gases by 30% by the end of this next decade. We choose to this and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, and because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win too.
To be sure we are behind, our energy is dirty, our cars wasteful, our cities unhealthful, and we will be behind for some time. But we do not intend to stay behind, and in this next decade we shall make up and move ahead.
To be sure, all this cost us all a good deal of money. But we are already paying a good deal money today for the oil and for the coal. Oil alone cost us 1.4 billion a day, or almost $5 a day for every man, woman and child in this nation. It will, in the end, cost us more to be frugal now. It is a price we must pay.
Many years ago the great Britich explorer George Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked why did he want to climb it He said "Because it is there"
Well alternative energy is all around, in the wind, in the sun, and on the tide and were going to harvest that energy, not only with wind mills but photovoltaic, solar collectors, and new yet undiscovered means that are out there and new hope for knowledge and even new ways to live and better enjoy our communities. And therefore, as we set sail we ask God's blessing on the most important and greatest adventure of our time, taking back our energy and embracing our life. On We hold these truths to be self-evident ... posted 3 years, 5 months ago 1 Response
2050
Doesn't a goal forty plus years into the future sound like so much hot air, pardon the pun? They set a goal up like that at the State level in California and then they ignore it. It seems to me goals which one can be held accountable within one's life time are more apt to get done.On Kerry energy speech posted 3 years, 5 months ago 4 Responses
Pardon my causual usage
Sorry to offend you, it was certainly not intended. The gender associated with the personal pronoun to me seemed unimportant. At some level however I must have assumed that one who gets the math wrong but is fundementally correct must be male, but it is not an assumption I am aware that I hold. Reminds me of my college days back in the 70s when I was a supporter of the ERA and we actually tried to get people to use ou and a.
Since we are taking up topics of the 70s, I can't believe that Roe vs Wade in coming under attack. What a step backwards. Sometimes I think we kid ourselves thinking that we are making progress. But I believe there have been improvements in the rights of women and ultimately men in the last 40 years thanks to the woman's movement.On Goodell on coal gasification posted 3 years, 5 months ago 18 Responses
Sunflower May Be Right
I doubt if Sunflower's estimate for the cost of solar is correct. I suspect it is low, but still I think he on to something. Using his figures, for something like 50 cents a day per person over twenty years the USA could convert all of its energy use to solar, and then it is basically keep the things working. Few moving parts and no inputs other than sunlight. Wouldn't that be nice to have our energy supply all in renewables by 2030. I think it will cost more than that, but we can afford to pay more.
Consider, just the change in the cost of oil to Americans in the last four years has been on the order of $2.75 per person per day ($35/barrel to $70/barrel for 20 million barrels a day over 250 million people). That is on the order of $700 million a day. The amount of money we are currently spending on energy will generate change, and I think we have the capability to make the needed changes. This is not a task equal to that of curing cancer nor as expensive as colonizing the moon. Failure, from a practical point of view, is not an option. We have the money and the science, we just need to make it real.On Goodell on coal gasification posted 3 years, 5 months ago 18 Responses
Smoking and Cancer
It took a long time for the smoking link to cancer to be accepted to the point legislation was passed to restrict smoking. I think the surgeon general warning came out in late 1963, warnings appeared on cigarette packs in the late 1960s and the first restrictive laws I believe were in the early 1980s. Meaning it took 20 years. CO2 has been an issue for about 20 years as well. I think we are there and I think we are ready for laws to be enacted.
What concerns me is how willing people will be to keep laws in place when the time delay associated with action and control is so long. Smoking gave fast relief and long term benefits. On Climate change is still news to some posted 3 years, 5 months ago 14 Responses
Cool Trip
Sounds great, hope the T-stroms predicted for saturday night are not a problem. Appreciate the link to Native Energy, looks like a good program.On Blogging from Bonnaroo posted 3 years, 5 months ago 3 Responses
How MIght High Density Housing Be Best Developed
In Southern California there are scores of developers seeking to build high density condos from Pasadena to Pacific Palasades, from Anaheim to Burbank and throughout LA. With the exception of downtown LA most of these projects have been stopped by those living in the communities. Burbank has over 180,000 jobs but only 100,000 residents. The pressure to build more housing units is high, but the public pressure to stop such building is even higher. In Pasadena the owner of the former Ambassador College, Worldwide Church of God, has proposed replacing it with 1431 new housing units on 45 acres, but public outcry continues at developmment levels as low 400 units. People seem to resist change, higher densities, and more and taller buildings. Mr. Flint may have some insight when there are willing city dwellers who want to buy but unwilling residents who block development.On What should I ask Anthony Flint? posted 3 years, 5 months ago 3 Responses
The Heat Transfer
I think the low heat transfer nature of a hydrogen flame is interesting. Note how cool the torch remains while having a hot flame. I checked into that and found that hydrogen produces a very well defined heat profile.
Clearly not perpetual motion, that reliable sign of a fool, but no doubt patented, but I doubt it is the electrolysis of water. Burbank has a hydrogen filling station that uses electrolysis of water using a method patented by Air Products. I assume the patent is associated with the electrodes or how the voltage is modulated between the electrodes in response to the demand for hydrogen. If using tap water rather than demineralized RO water there would also be water treatment issues that one could probably patent.On Water power posted 3 years, 5 months ago 7 Responses
H2O Yields H2 and O2
By breaking up the water bond with electricity H2 and O2 can be produced. These two gases, hydrogen and oxygen, can then be burnt in a flame that will result in a temperature higher than hydrogen burning in atomsphere. Hydgrogen flames appear to have less associated conductive heating than do other flames containing carbon. I suspect this is due to it lower density. It is a cool property of hydrogen of which I was unaware.On Water power posted 3 years, 5 months ago 7 Responses
Red vs Blue
I am not sure Republicans can say sustainable. I think that the Democrats have taken this issue. While registered as a republican I am finding the party doing things for the wrong reasons and thus exercising poor judgement.
The real issue is republican or democrat and the choice we make for President. Why not Gore. I think he should re-think his decision to not consider the presidency.On My problems with "energy security" posted 3 years, 5 months ago 13 Responses
Headliners
Recently there has been discussion concerning headlines and attention getting statements and images associated with Albert Gore's recent movie and book. In order to get the attention of people it takes strong statements that are polarized into simple binary good or bad roles. Unfortunately, real life issues are more complex.
When making such strong statements it is clear that the ends justify the means. When on the recieving end of such statements it seems unfair. The term yellow journalism is a term that has been applied to such strong statements for grand standing and profitteering. Overtime such strong statements, that may have been reserved for the yellow form, have entered mainstream journalism. I suspect that people respond to such strong statements more than they respond to the considered and accurately worded ones.
Kind of a dilemma. What was once consider yellow is now becoming green (as in given the green light, or in terms of traffic color signals "go", not the environmental association of the color green).
On Biofuels are bad news for biodiversity posted 3 years, 5 months ago 13 Responses
Improved Gore
Gore seems to have improved his communication skills from his 2000 level. Believe he could be a strong candidate, but not sure how much is an halo effect that colors my view in his favor simply because I like what he says about global warming.On Gore/Lohan feud posted 3 years, 5 months ago 3 Responses
Nuclear Power
I continue to be surprised that nuclear power has once again become a darling of many power supply planners. While I do support taking care of the plants that are in operation as it would be irresponsible to do otherwise. Further, nuclear fuel supplies have been enhanced by the Russian sale of fuel produced from its retired fleet of ICBMs. I believe few nuclear plants will be built in the US, and we will continue to retire existing plants as time goes by. On No nukes is good nukes posted 3 years, 5 months ago 62 Responses
Action Includes Adaptation
I think that the climate change response must include adaptation. We must reduce the adverse impacts that climate change is going have on the United States. People expect leaders to act to save the country. Fiddling around with debates on science or comparing climate change to political issues in Iraq is not the stuff of leadership. Let's begin now to by taking the actions to reduce emissions and prepare for the impacts that we will not be able to avoid.On Adaptation and political context posted 3 years, 5 months ago 23 Responses