Comments John McGrath has made

  • Oh, right, the other hemisphere

    Was I the only one who had to read that three times?On Did I say darndest? I meant stupidest posted 1 year, 4 months ago 26 Responses

  • Link?

    Can we fix the link to this recent paper, please?On Projected CO2 emissions dwarf previous expectations posted 1 year, 8 months ago 15 Responses

  • re: Gore's humor

    The only time I saw Gore live, I got a dose of his humor:

    MC:  "Well, I think we can take one more question..."

    Gore:  "Make it two."

    (Cocks head, runs hand through hair.)

    Gore:  "I stil have some power."On Gore's impromptu humor at a recent small climate summit posted 1 year, 10 months ago 14 Responses

  • Wait a minute!

    I went with cars because it's the issue Yglesias raised, not because I think, thought, or will think that cars are the sole important factor.

    That said, I think cars are a keystone that, if made oil-free with some speed, could buy the planet precious time.  When you consider that the EWG says we could be at 40 mbd of oil by 2030, we need to pick the low-hanging fruit fast, and personal vehicles are exactly that.  On Progressive pundits don't seem to be fully grappling with the oil problem posted 2 years ago 10 Responses

  • Tell it to Nick Stern

    "Being able to converse relatively proficiently about economics and market principles, not just acknowledgment of the problems, is the best way to create a bipartisan consensus on policy. People on the right will listen to these and often agree."

    Uh, really?  So you mean, they won't spend weeks and months nitpicking about insignificant issues when an economically-conversant expert unequivocally states that climate change is a huge and growing danger to the global economy?

    I don't think we're watching the same conservatives at work.  Call me when they stop screeching about discount rates.On The benefits of using prizes to drive alternative fuel research posted 2 years, 2 months ago 5 Responses

  • Dude, chill

    SustainableGreen:

    Um, a blog post need not be a monograph.  I'm totally with you on the decentralized solar power in the hands of the people thing.  My point -- limited only to the issue of surface area -- is that our energy system is already incredibly area-intensive, and to single out solar for criticism is irrational.

    Oh, and I asked the editors to change ("100km^2 by 100km^2") to 100km by 100km.  Typo was not corrected before I posted.On Why we gotta knock solar? posted 2 years, 5 months ago 35 Responses

  • Liberal Party in Canada

    They proposed basically setting a cap-and-trade system allowing no emissions above our Kyoto goals, and taxing everything above that at (I think) $20/tonne, with decreases in credits and increases in the tax as time went on.

    I think the effect would be to guarantee that, no matter what happened, the price of the market credits wouldn't exceed that of the tax.  (If the market credits were $30/tonne, you'd just opt out and pay the tax, right?)  But for the lucky people who jumped in to the market quickly, there would be plenty of opportunity to save carbon at prices lower than $20/tonne, so they could buy in quickly and resell their credits for a profit later.

    But I'm no economist.  I think I'd still favour the carbon tax alone.On And if not, why not? posted 2 years, 6 months ago 20 Responses

  • Imagine...

    "Imagine if we did something crazy like that on purpose!"

    I assume you're aware that the next headline on Drudge Report will be something like: "Crazy nutter treehugger David Roberts proposes burning down major urban freeways across America -- links with al Qaeda?  Developing..."On It's like riding a bike ... posted 2 years, 6 months ago 8 Responses

  • Misanthropic?

    "One way of viewing the human species is like a disease on the face of the planet that should be corralled and minimized. The misanthropic view."

    How is what I wrote misanthropic?  It's not like living in Tokyo is a death sentence or anything -- quite the opposite.  And the whole point of skyfarming is to give humans a life-support mechanism that doesn't hurt the planet as much.

    The question is how do we meet humanity's needs without imposing ourselves on the rest of the world unduly -- minimizing our footprint.  Seems to me that megacities would be the way to do that.

    I do think the reference to "gardeners in Eden" hits at the basic distinction I think I failed to make here between "nature" and "wilderness".  The basic question is whether you think the natural role of the technological human species is to tend to the world or disrupt it.  I think it's the latter.On Can we live with skyscraper farms? posted 2 years, 7 months ago 29 Responses

  • Couldn't agree more.

    Very, very well said.On 'Nature for nature's sake' has limited appeal posted 2 years, 8 months ago 15 Responses

  • Gore is playing better now, I think

    I dunno whether Imhofe was like Spinach for Popeye or whether he's just more comfortable in the questions, but he seems to be warming up.On Liveblogging is the new black posted 2 years, 8 months ago 27 Responses

  • Realplayer link:

    http://epw.senate.gov/public/epw.ramOn Liveblogging is the new black posted 2 years, 8 months ago 27 Responses

  • It's sound enough, but...

    There's some issues with it still.  Primarily, how do we get the requisite amount of Hydrogen.On Or a new way forward? posted 2 years, 8 months ago 9 Responses

  • Thinkings

    1.  Business may not be quite as powerful here in Canada, but it's still awfully powerful.  Dion's challenge in the future is that the Liberals have spent that last decade or so being very much the party of business (think DLC Democrats, but far more influential) so Dion can't risk repudiating that.

    2.  I am very much not a fan of Michael Ignatieff.  Education or no, he's gotten as far as he has because the right-wing in the Liberal Party craves approval from Washington, so they put a pro-war, pro-torture, pro-Star Wars academic in the front bench.  (It's really painful for me, because I loved loved loved what he wrote before 9/11.  Since then, not so much.)

    3.  Your impression of Canadian opinion of America is more or less correct -- everything's a reaction to Washington in one way or another.  One of our better PMs called it "a mouse next to a sleeping elephant."  No matter how well-intentioned the beast, you can't help but be alert to every twitch and twitter.
    On Woe, Canada posted 2 years, 8 months ago 4 Responses
  • Unions...

    In Ontario, we've got the problem of the local Power Worker's Union agitating strongly for coal and nuclear, because they require more manpower, versus wind and Hydro.  Very sad, even for a union-booster like me.On Even with the proposal as low as 4 percent per year posted 2 years, 8 months ago 13 Responses

  • Excellent work Dave.

    Well done.  But I must protest when you write:

    "Broad, and The New York Times, should be embarrassed."

    No, the NYT should be embarrassed, Broad should be fired.  This isn't "mistaken" or "unbalanced", it's malicious and unethical.On The gray lady gets it woefully, laughably wrong posted 2 years, 8 months ago 53 Responses

  • Satire is correct

    Barclay, as far as I know, is no denialist.  Rather, these are his responses to the denialists.On Funny stuff posted 2 years, 8 months ago 3 Responses

  • What's left out?

    When costing nuclear:

    Insurance -- the market simply won't insure nuclear power, the govt does it.

    R&D -- the US nuclear industry is an offshoot of weapons and propulsion research for the military, nothing more.

    Waste disposal -- Nevada taxpayers paying to foul their own water.  Nice work, if you can get it.

    If solar and wind had the kind of subsidies that nuclear has, you'd see those numbers above flip quickly.

    As you say, dbinid, learn.  Think.On And no, global warming doesn't change that posted 2 years, 9 months ago 12 Responses

  • This is different from taxes how?

    "It does not tell industries and companies what to do or how to meet their allocations. Each company is free to make those choices. It can reduce its own emissions or pay someone else to lower them."

    When the government taxes cigarettes or alcohol, it doesn't tell me how to avoid smoking and drinking, it just expects me to figure out -- as a rational consumer -- how to avoid those substances if the taxes are too onerous.

    At the root, both a tax and a C&T system are redistributive systems.  The question is who should do the redistributing.  Do we let the govt do it, who we at least have a vote on, or do we let business ("the market") do it?

    And the answer to that question depends on who you trust more:  Nancy Pelosi or the minds behind Exxon, Enron, and ADM?On A guest essay from Environmental Defense posted 2 years, 9 months ago 41 Responses

  • In other news, my bedroom is never messy

    I've never understood the argument that property rights would solve commons problems.  As if farmers don't ruin their soils, homeowners always maintain their houses perfectly, and nobody neglects the oil in their cars.

    Plus, there never was any tragedy of the commons.  It's a theoretical construct bereft of any historical evidence.  Actually-existing commons were heavily regulated and mediated by the community.On Good on him posted 2 years, 10 months ago 10 Responses

  • The Red Tide spreads

    "Politically, even this requires we give up our anti-government fetish."

    Can I get an amen?On A review of Joe Romm's new book posted 2 years, 10 months ago 34 Responses

  • Thanks

    The glories of the series of tubes, where someone's always smarter than I.On Obama disappoints posted 2 years, 10 months ago 7 Responses

  • You asked for it

    I hereby dub thee the Big Giant Head.On Watch at your own risk posted 2 years, 10 months ago 3 Responses

  • The dirty hippy problem

    No matter how right you were, how early you were right, and how obviously wrong your adversaries are, if you're on "the left" (enviros, peaceniks, and other suspected homosexual fronts) you can never occupy a legitimate position in the public sphere.

    See re: Iraq War.

    I don't attribute any malice or anything to Revkin (good on him for participating here, and for his kids' book) but it's clearly the dynamic at work.  Al Gore was right about climate change decades before any American political leader, but he's an "extreme" in Revkin's piece.

    It's incredibly insulting to those of us who didn't swallow pure, uncut lies for the last twenty years.  And it's a shame that American journalism still, after everything, can't escape the straitjacket of denigrating the correct.On The supposed 'middle way' is debunked posted 2 years, 10 months ago 39 Responses

  • Sorry Ron...

    My post really wasn't intended to be directly connected to your post, except for the very limited quote.  I agree with your comment entirely, and I personally have no aversion to international trade - rather, it's been the use of international finance (the World Bank and IMF cartel) to deform development that bothers me.

    Trade is, of course, natural.  But that doesn't mean the "market" (the system within which trading occurs) has some natural or holy shape.  The government has the right to impose taxes domestically - and tariffs internationally - in order to meet social ends: less pollution, more development, etc.On Time for greens to get over their fear of big government posted 2 years, 11 months ago 29 Responses

  • Definite costs in the future are also ignored

    I was writing an essay for school once, and was reading a report from the GAO, OMB, or somesuch that said -- horror of horrors! -- that if the US ratified Kyoto, gasoline would rise in price to $2.30 a gallon.

    At the time of writing that essay, gasoline was $2.50 a gallon.

    We're going to have to pay our way, no matter what.  Only question is what we're paying for.On Robert Novak does it on purpose posted 2 years, 11 months ago 8 Responses

  • Question

    From what I've read, nobody assumes that a mature V2G system would draw down the full charge of a battery cycle - for obvious reasons: the drivers do want to be able to drive home!  How does this affect the calculations if each utility is only using a fraction of a full discharge cycle?

    My immediate thoughts are that a V2G system would have much less lifespan impact on a car's batteries than the actual act of driving it.  But on these matters, I do defer to you.On It's not the key to making renewables work posted 2 years, 11 months ago 23 Responses

  • Everything old is new again

    Now all we need is a daisy ad.On The latest idea in fighting global warming posted 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Responses

  • caveats accepted, with one quibble

    Not an economist, but I suspect sunflower's right about costs.  One general question:  The cost (in terms of $/kwh) of solar and wind currently needs to take in to account intermittency, and the reality that some electrons will never make it to the grid.  Some watts will be produced at times when the grid can't handle it.

    Assuming the storage exists, wouldn't that lower the price marginally, as renewables would be able to operate until the storage was full?

    Obviously, not a huge price decline.  But wind is already profitable vs coal and natural gas in Texas and other states.On Hybrids connected to the electrical grid could change the energy game posted 2 years, 11 months ago 16 Responses

  • Funny that...

    I guess I would raise two points.  First, China especially is now in the midst of a political reaction against growth, and the Communist Party of China is deliberately trying to put the brakes on growth in an effort to deal with inequality and the environmental costs -- amusingly, the People's Republic is now vastly less equal than even the Capitalist Running Dog states.  So whether or not I think growth-at-all-costs was a good strategy, the people at the top and bottom of Chinese society have come to believe it wasn't.

    Secondly, China and India fetishized growth, but they did so by departing from the World Bank/IMF policy consensus.  So I would say they're not directly applicable as examples, given the article I was citing.

    As a general rule, I of course believe the poorest economies need to grow.  But if we've hit the limits of what the Earth can sustain in terms of total industrial and agricultural output (which Dennis Meadows seems to believe, take it as you will) then the obvious corollary is that our economies need to "shrink", in that we need to use dramatically less resources.  Whether this comes from increased efficiency or reduced demand is up to us.

    The people behind LTG now say that the Earth can sustain a population of about 9 billion at the standard of living of South Korea.  That doesn't seem too bad to me.On It's not just growth that matters posted 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Responses

  • Exactly

    The point is not that PHEV's are the answer to our prayers, but that PHEVs, wind, solar, and (maybe) biofuels work together much better than any one element by itself.  PHEVs can provide the vital service (storage) that renewables need, in a product that people will actually want - PHEVs will, generally speaking, already be far more fuel-efficient even on liquid fuels, and will save further $s by running mostly on electricity.

    And you definitely don't need to sell me on efforts to reduce the role of cars in the North American lifestyle.  But there are 200 million cars already.  Even if we halve that amount -- which is unrealistically draconian, especially considering future population growth -- we've still got 100 million cars, and something useful for them to do.

    The distributed storage that PHEV's represent could actually help relocalization, couldn't it?On Hybrids connected to the electrical grid could change the energy game posted 2 years, 11 months ago 16 Responses

  • Hegel lives...

    I never thought America would be the place where Hegelian dialectics would become the de facto ruling ideology, but there it is:  Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis - not as a means, but as an end unto itself.

    Up next:  Russ Feingold reprints the Communist Manifesto.On He understands you ... and you too posted 2 years, 11 months ago 3 Responses

  • Oh, and Friedman's a useful idiot

    To borrow Lenin's phrase.

    If he and James Woolsey can be useful to bring more people around to the national security implications of oil addiction, then I say a big Whoopee.

    But the flip side of viewing oil as a military-industrial problem is, as I've said here before, that we're likely to get a military-industrial solution.  Meaning, most likely, coal-to-liquids and oil shale extraction (if possible.)

    On balance, viewing oil solely as a security matter will probably make the environmental movement's work harder, not easier.On Oil imperialism is going to be the end of us posted 2 years, 12 months ago 13 Responses

  • A few responses

    Thanks to all for the insights.

    Tom:  I too am befuddled at the "normalcy" of American politics at the moment.  If nothing else, the fact that the Iraq War represents today a tragically large opportunity cost should be common sense, but doesn't seem to be.

    I once said, after Stiglitz' $2 trillion estimate came out (re: war costs) that there was absolutely nothing I could think of that $2 trillion couldn't buy.  Seriously.  The colonization of Pluto would be cheaper.  We could get America off all oil for chump change.

    Add to that the fact that an intelligently-designed energy system would not create more danger in the world for America, as this war has, and I fail to see why George Bush is still President.  But then, I am Canadian.

    Whiskerfish:  For some reason, Canadian schoolkids are never taught about our complicity in the Boer War, either.  Gee.  Wonder why.On Oil imperialism is going to be the end of us posted 2 years, 12 months ago 13 Responses

  • I agree

    "If we are using biomass (or charcoal) to have a carbon neutral energy source, then biomass is the winner. If we are talking about any high density energy source, then natural gas and oil are the winners."

    We're in total agreement - the point is that biomass-charcoal can be strongly carbon negative while also being energy-dense, easily handled, and compatible with (some) current infrastructure.

    No other fuel that I've seen advocated meets those criteria.

    Pyrolysis of biomass also allows us to sequester massive amounts of carbon, on the millenia-timescale, something simple (un-charred) biomass does not.On Yes, charcoal posted 2 years, 12 months ago 11 Responses

  • Charcoal v. biomass

    Charcoal is more easily stored - lasts forever, doesn't rot, etc.On Yes, charcoal posted 2 years, 12 months ago 11 Responses

  • The primacy of politics

    "...we need to eliminate all energy subsidies but also have a more progressive income tax system that ensures that low income people are ok- these are separate but related issues."

    I disagree.  This is all the same issue - the unrealism of small-government answers for societal problems.  For it to actually happen, outside of the pages of Reason Magazine, it needs to be politically palatable.  "Eliminate subsidies, tax carbon" is not a politically palatable solution.  Now, if the Reason article said "end subsidies for energy production, shift savings to subsidies for efficient end-use, a time-limited rebate program to help people transition, and spend the rest on funding basic research going to the public domain", I'd sign up in a hot second.  But Reason is congenitally opposed to proposing serious policy, and instead offers libertarian platitudes.

    I've written on this blog about my suspicion of big-government fixes on the model of Apollo or Manhattan, but to say in the same article a) solar power is the wave of the future, but b) the Apollo program which spurred the R&D in solar power was a waste of money, is simply incoherent.

    Intelligent policy need not be Apollo or Manhattan.  But the government absolutely has a positive, encouraging role to play in this sector.

    "As far as nuclear insurance, if private insurance won't step in then it should not exist- also, with a high enough price it would and this would include a rational calculus of the liabilities, which government insurance precludes by offering a lower value that doesn't represent the full liabilities."

    A fair point, and in either case I see nuclear going out of business - either the market won't insure it, or will price nuclear kilowatt-hours out of the market.  Either way, we win!On No new subsidies needed posted 3 years ago 17 Responses

  • And then, buy me a pony!

    "Eliminating all energy subsidies" has a nice ring to it, but it massively glosses over the reality of the energy subsidy complex in America.  Do we, for example, eliminate the largest subsidy for the nuclear industry - guaranteed federal insurance for all reactors?  The private market will not insure nuclear reactors, ever.  Eliminating this subsidy would effectively shutter American nuclear production.  I happen to think that's a plus, but it's also not going to happen for exactly that reason.

    Also, forcing consumers to pay both the unsubsidized price for their energy, plus a hefty carbon tax, without offsetting that price hike with, for example, subsidized purchases of new, more efficient appliances, would constitute a massive confiscation of income that can only be described as cruel.

    Shift subsidies, absolutely.  Eliminate subsidies, no.On No new subsidies needed posted 3 years ago 17 Responses

  • Fighting climate change in which context?

    It all depends on the rules of the game, doesn't it?  For example, if we relaxed intellectual property restrictions in international law, and forgave poor countries' debts, would do wonders for development, and cost very little (we're never getting those debts back anyway, so there's no cost to forgiving them.)

    Now, I think we should do both of those anyway, but it could be a major bargaining chip for the poor - we give them technology transfers and debt forgiveness, they invest heavily in renewables and efficiency, and leave more oil for us junkies.On Poor countries can't afford to tackle climate change posted 3 years ago 57 Responses

  • You're mistaken

    An oversight:  A battle between silicon valley and the former constituents of Standard Oil is a battle between last century and the century before that.

    Still rooting for the same people.On The fight is on posted 3 years, 2 months ago 5 Responses

  • It's about 1997

    Geoff:  One thing to keep in mind whenever we talk about Asia, loans, and China is the overwhelming impact of the 1997 financial crisis.  Places like Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia were absolutely devastated by the crisis, which many in those countries - large majorities, in fact - believe was exacerbated by the policies of the IMF and the World Bank.  Meanwhile, China played a stabilizing and expansionary role in 1997 and after.

    The fact is, China is providing a service that these countries want, without the nasty stench of imperialism that the IMF and WB carry, and at a lower cost besides.  I'd love to see the WB and the IMF compete against China for "customers" and still keep the environmental standards.  Whether western governments are willing to offer lower-cost aid than China will be interesting to see.On China loans money to developing countries with no environmental strings posted 3 years, 2 months ago 5 Responses

  • addendum to an addendum, then

    Not to be sloppy and obsequious, but if anything I thought my post was an addendum to your earlier work on fear.  I toyed with the alternate title "Fear and Environmentalism:  Open mike night!" or maybe "Fear and Environmentalism: Amateur hour!"

    I make no apologies for beating you to the Post button, however.On It won't happen through fear posted 3 years, 2 months ago 3 Responses

  • energy- vs fuel-efficiency

    Something a few people have mentioned:  SUV's are not alone in the fuel-efficiency problem.  I absolutely agree, and there's an important trend in cars since the mid-1980s.

    While there's been a number of innovations and improvements in engine design and body construction, all of those improvements have gone towards improved acceleration and speed, not better fuel efficiency.  This is true for SUVs and Sedans, as people have said.

    Linda McQuaig has a good way of putting this:  The end point for this kind of trend is not cars that weigh nothing and run forever on fumes.  Rather, the end point is 18-wheelers that run like F1 race cars.  McQuaig calls it the "out of my way, fucker!" mentality of car design.

    As for directing our vitriol specifically at SUVs, I'd argue it's a way of attacking exactly that mentality in it's purest form.On And why is it still around? posted 3 years, 2 months ago 10 Responses

  • re: I don't understand...

    Lee:  You should eat your vegetables because they're good for you.  If you also happen to love the taste of broccoli or spinach, then that's even better.

    We should raise living standards in the Third World (and like the others above, I agree this would include increased urbanization) because this is the right thing to do.  That it would also have good side-effects environmentally is a bonus.

    I should have been clearer.  The point of the post is that those who whine and complain about the steps necessary to build a sustainable civilization deserve as much respect as a petulant six year-old who refuses to eat their greens.  This stuff is necessary.On Eating our vegetables posted 3 years, 3 months ago 9 Responses