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  (reply to "Latecommer") You can't possibly be a science teacher unless you are coloring everything you read and study with politics. We are losing the ice sheets, Greenland is going, the Antarctic ice sheet is showing disturbing loss, the Arctic ice is virtually gone and not coming back, and the global average temperature is on track to reach 4-6 degrees C by 2100. My sources are science sources, not political ones. I can't imagine what it is you are reading, Mr. High School Science Teacher. I think you are most certainly not who you say you are, just because everything you wrote is what I have heard at denier's town hall meetings like those put on by my professional denier of a Congresswoman. Really shockingly political and anti-science stuff. And keep in mind, anyone can come on any website online and say they are a science teacher or a Nobel Prize winner in physics but that wouldn't make it so. Since you are so off base with widely accepted science, you could improve your credibility by telling us the school you work for and show us your online bio. You can't even spell, so it's hard to believe you are a teacher.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses

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  It's not a climate bill. It's a jobs and energy bill. What we need is a completely separate bill that is actually a climate bill. Even as a jobs and energy bill, it's not great. A climate bill is something we don't have yet.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses

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  And I'm getting irritated with so-called environmentalists who are so dissatisfied with anything that comes out of Congress that they are actively working against it. Demanding the impossible helps no one and nothing. The Denier movement and the disinformation campaigns put out every day by people such as my Congresswoman, Michele Bachmann, LOVE you perfectionists and want you to do exactly what you are doing. They are using you and they will continue to use you in their speeches and statistics and newsletters until the world is convinced the U.S. really doesn't want to do anything at all about climate change. Congratulations on being a non-compromising perfectionist who will accept nothing less than what you personally want. Meanwhile, the rest of us are trying to work with what we have and make it better.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses

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  Mahonia: My point was not to support something you don't like, but that there is no logical reason to actively work against it, which is what a lot of people are doing or planning on doing. It's defies common sense to oppose the only climate bill we have ever had, as though we expected our Congress to come up with a bill that would meet the standards of every climate activist in this country. It would be nice if Congress were to suddenly morph into climate activists overnight wouldn't it. We have to be more realistic than that. Our enemy is the big industries that want to kill this bill, and the Republican party, which wants to kill any climate action, and the denial movement and the disinformation campaigns. It's not the Senators who wrote this new bill. Why can't people who understand climate change at least put on a cohesive front against the real enemies here? Because of this idea that we can pursue perfection and expect it from politicians. This is Congress's first try at some type of climate bill, they have 1,000 considerations to include, and obviously it's not perfect but it's a starting point. People who are going to actively work against it, like Climate SOS for example, are doing the entire world a disservice. I get angry, self-righteous emails from some of these groups who are bending over backwards to destroy the only shot at climate legislation we have, and if they have their way, we end up with nothing. Is that what they want? This is why action to defeat this makes me very suspicious. Climate change isn't even on most people's radar. The public knows about it only in a vague way. If we had a bill at least the public would know it's important and they'd be forced to learn about it. So fine, don't support it, but don't work AGAINST it. Work to strengthen it or work locally and on a state level to do things within your state. This idea that we should expend our valuable energy and time actively opposing a climate bill that we don't like is exactly what the deniers and Big Oil and Big Coal want you to do.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses

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  Mahonia, you might not be part of the deniers movement and the disinformation campaign by being publicly against our first climate bill, but you are doing their work for them, whether you want to or not, by campaigning against it. What will probably happen is that thanks to your efforts we will get no bill at all, none this year, none next year, because nothing will be good enough for you. And then where do we sit? Back at square one. Then we start all over, again hoping for something better and better until it's too late and the Republicans have taken over again. Then it's game over. With Obama and a Democratic congress, this is the only crack at this we might have. Yeah the bill sucks, I think I've said that about 4 times now, but it makes sense to give it a chance to work or at least wait until it's written to start bashing it to pieces. BTW, I've been reading and writing about this for years too, so don't try to pull rank on anyone just because you disagree with them. I suspect anyone who is commenting here knows far more about this topic than the average person or they wouldn't even be bothering. Don't throw your reading list at me and I'll spare you mine.On ‘No compromise’ faction attacks climate bill posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago 104 Responses