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  An Evangelical Declaration on the Care of Creation

  This language sounds great to me.  Although agnostic and progressive myself, I say we should welcome "Creation Care" Christians with open arms.  That is, assuming the goal is not ideological purity but to defend the environment.  Well, that's certainly my goal!

  Anyway, here are some excerpts from the Evangelical Environmental Network's declaration:

  "Because we worship and honor the Creator, we seek to cherish and care for the creation.

  "Because we have sinned, we have failed in our stewardship  of creation. Therefore we repent of the way we have polluted, distorted, or destroyed so much of the Creator's work."

  "Many of these degradations are signs that we are pressing against the  finite limits God has set for creation. With continued population growth, these  degradations will become more severe. Our responsibility is not only to bear and nurture children, but to nurture their home on earth."

  "The Creator's concern is for all creatures. God declares all creation "good" (Gen. 1:31); promises care in a covenant with all creatures (Gen. 9:9-17); delights in creatures which have no human apparent usefulness (Job 39-41); and wills, in Christ, "to reconcile all things to himself" (Col.1:20)."On Evangelical enviros leery of associating with, uh, enviros posted 4 years, 7 months ago 6 Responses

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  I agree...

  the anti-fishing campaign is not the best way for PETA to go.  They should concentrate on true atrocities towards animals that will really turn people's stomachs, like the inhumane way veal calves are raised, the horrible conditions in slaughterhouses, or the disgusting experiments performed on monkeys.  That's the way to win over public support for their cause, not focusing on fishing.

  Having said that, I presume that we in the environmental community can all agree that our oceans are being stripmined, and that current fishing technologies and massive levels of (unsustainable) consumption are the main culprits.   In general, the answer to this problem -- and many other environmental problems -- is for the 6 billion people on Earth to "eat lower" on the food chain.  In other words, vegetarianism/significantly reduced meat consumption BOTH reduces animal suffering AND helps the environment at the same time.  Animal rights folks and environentalists should be natural allies, not enemies!On More windmill tilting from PETA posted 5 years ago 7 Responses

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  Thanks Chris...

  from the bottom of my (vegetarian) heart, I truly appreciate your thoughtful post and completely concur that Grist should be a "uniter not a divider."  One thing I'm sure we can all agree on is that we've got more than enough of the "divider" stuff with that non-environmentalist, non-PETA-supporter currently occupying the White House! :) On More windmill tilting from PETA posted 5 years ago 7 Responses

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  Why on earth are you spending your time

  making fun of the animal rights' movement?  Don't you have anything better to do, like protecting the environment?  Or would you prefer to alienate people like me, who are both  environmentalists and animal rights' supporters?  Frankly, for posts like this, I can head over to Free Republic.  I expected a lot better from Grist!On More windmill tilting from PETA posted 5 years ago 7 Responses

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  This is very wise advice

  but I worry that environmental organizations won't take it.  Unfortunately, it seems to me that most advocacy groups -- and enviros are no exception -- thrive on confrontational tactics and incendiary rhetoric. And while those tactics may not actually succeed in saving the environment (as negotiation and compromise might), my guess is that they are extremely successful in a) raising money for environmental advocacy organizations, b) firing up their membership bases, and c) keeping the organizations themselves in business.  Or am I being too cynical here?

  PS  I say this as a strong environmentalist who has been active politically and given lots of money to green causes over the years, so I guess I'm not TOTALLY cynical!On Whither the environmental movement? II posted 5 years ago 14 Responses