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  Now that I think of it...

  The crunchy whole wheat crowd are guilty of excessive consumerism of land and resources. I mean if we're going to go down the corporate fascism tag teaming with Marxist dogmatics, let's explore it's wider potential.

  These people live out in the country, wasting entire acres of land, and expect acres they don't own to be kept pristine for their selfish pleasure. It's not fair to the "peasants", who are jammed into inner city slums, so they certainly won't care about anything as minor as the "civil rights" of the affluent elites who sold their civil rights out from under them. The proto-corporate-marxist-fascists could make much more 'use' out of that land. Push them out of their homes (the enviros don't need such big space to live in, a one or three room apartment in the city is so much more green when you think about it in brave new world terms, don't you agree? It forces you to use less. :) )

  Use that space for factories and farms, tainted water can be used efficiently to hydrate the crops. Let's put up nuclear plants, and wall to wall wind farms (that way city governments get to still pull in money from selling electricity to the power plants) Move some peasants out to live in sty-like structures to labor on the farms and factories.

  We don't really need enviros anyway, they're lazy and always demanding more for themselves. They've alienated all the people so no one will speak up for them. Put them to work and make them earn their keep.. after all, efficiency in all things.On Let the nativists try eating their words posted 1 year, 11 months ago 9 Responses

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  BTW, Patrick

  Please tell Grist that they should demand the US government build more housing. They could do like your Chinese friends do, marshland and in the country side. There are plenty of green spaces that could be developed, correct?

  After all, if as you advocate, that like under the Marxist state system, everything is just another resource to exploit, why should we care about national and state parks. Who needs clean water and trees, after all, they are just a poor use of space, correct?

  No need to care about open sewers, or take stands against heavy metals contamination either. Tell us what China does to environmental protestors.. at least when there isn't the need to hide behind the mask when the Olympics are coming to the country.

  Tell us what they've done in Tibet, the destruction of habitats, because of their large "peasant" (I know how much Grist loves the term, the writers here love to fling that word about so frequently) populations. On Let the nativists try eating their words posted 1 year, 11 months ago 9 Responses

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  Unelected corporate appointees polluting the seas

  That's all that will be achieved by the Law of the Sea treaty. Are you so easily fooled that you fail to notice how corrupt the UN has become, the oil for food program, the willingness to turn a blind eye to what is going on in the Sudan (perhaps you don't care?). How money talks and human rights takes a far back seat.

  What will happen is that the seas would be governed by an unelected body, who don't have to answer to anyone selling contracts out to the highest bidder. That is what you advocate for. Morons.On What will US ratification mean for health of the oceans? posted 1 year, 11 months ago 7 Responses

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  Not from climate change, but from immigration

  and increased trade dependence. Or perhaps it's another one of those repercussions you people refuse to consider because it's an inconvenient truth? Did the writer of this piece get his or her jollies off writing this? It sure sounded like it to me. It certainly speaks volumes about the lack of ethical standards involved. You people are so like your slave owning ancestors it's shocking.

  We've seen other tropical diseases spreading because of increased immigration and trade. West Nile, Malaria and other diseases. You can't lie and twist everything to suit your own ends. It just shows you for the cowardly propagandists that you are.
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  Patrick, another corporate tick

  getting fat sucking victims dry. Tell us, Patrick, who do you work for and how much do you profit from undermining US wage standards and the economy?

  If illegals weren't here, employers would have to pay higher wages, the wage standards they used to pay before they were allowed to violate federal law. More citizens would be working, and with less illegals increasing demand for housing, the cost of renting an apartment would go down. The health care crisis would become far more easy to resolve. The demand for water and energy would decline. There would be less cars on the road, less crime, accidents. Our society would be far more able to make sense of the madness and work our way  through to solving our problems.

  Illegals in their own countries would start to make demands of their own governments, and their greater numbers would force their governments to have to raise wages and provide opportunities.

  In short, the corporate and business interests that have been playing divide and conquer would have less power and influence.. because people would be taking that power and control back.

  Patrick, in your response to JCalvinH, you claim that illegals are powerless to bring about change in their own countries? Perhaps that's what you and your corporate or ideological paymasters need to put out there.. it's also racist. Human beings have fought for and achieved change. American citizens did, they weren't handed wage standards and workplace protections, environmental protections, women's rights, etc.. do you consider the citizens of other countries incapable of bringing about change in their respective countries?

  Only 2% of illegals work in agriculture, and it's been shown that they've lowered wages there. We had well paid, legal migrant workers with benefits, protected against abuses for decades, and food prices were low during those periods of time. We had a safer, healthier food supply, and there was far less hunger. The claims about prices escalating are lies promoted by corporate and foreign interests who want to keep the gravy train coming through for themselves. Do not be deceived.

  They'd be more successful if they weren't falling for the lies of Marxists, who are in reality no different than the far right wing exploiters. There are activist groups in their respective countries who have publically stated that those who illegally enter the US only help to ensure that no change is ever achieved. It's selfishness on their part. They aren't thinking of creating better futures for their children and future generations, they are only thinking of what luxuries they can have now.. so sorry, but the claim of wanting a better quality of life actually means they want big expensive toys.. it's got nothing to do with survival.

  Illegal aliens haven't helped keep prices low. Food prices haven't remained low, they've gone up 400% over the past 4 to 5 years. They only mean squeezing higher profits for the corporate interests. At the same time, they've helped corporate and business interests push poor and struggling middle class workers out of jobs, rendering them into the downward spiral into losing homes, being evicted from their apartments.. into homelessness and the type of poverty you claim to be against.

  The only solution is enforcing our immigration laws, cutting way back on visas, securing our borders and renegotiating our trade deals, or ending them if other countries and the corporate interests refuse. Imposing high tariffs in the interim is a good idea as well. Let them do without the consumers that remain in this country as an incentive to change their minds.

  We need to reinvest in manufacturing jobs, for American citizens. Create jobs for American citizens in alternative energy as well. People who are earning a decent wage can feed themselves and their families, and they in turn support their local economies. It means they can afford to take strong stands against the corporate interests who seek to drive everything down to the lowest common denominator. A free, strong, healthy America in the '70s embraced environmentalism, however, radical enviros in the late '70s and early '80s poisoned the environmental movement and how it was perceived. If you want to keep repeating the mistakes of the past, be prepared to see the environment get worse. If you think corporate interests hiding behind "green" window dressing will save the planet, you are sadly mistaken and an ignorant dupe. You only have to look at what is going on across the globe, especially in China where they still are polluting the environment while making false promises about "change".

  I'm not the one deceived, Patrick. I'm old enough to remember when ESL was implemented. It's promise was each student would be in ESL for one, two years tops, just to keep up with their lessons while they learned English. The reality has been that they aren't learning English, rather, they are locked into ESL classes for their entire time in school. Why is it that the schools in the US that are now Spanish only, who have English speaking American citizens enrolled demand that they learn Spanish through immersion? Catholic schools that have the children of illegals attending, demand immersion learning as well. The children don't suffer by it, they actually learn. ESL is racist. It's also horribly expensive, and is the reason why public schools since the '80s have eliminated arts and music education, to help pay for the black hole that is ESL, even the creator of ESL, a Hispanic American now regrets the legislation. It's only increased school dropout rates, it's the cause of underfunded, substandard public education. He made the statement on NPR.. one of the few rare moments where the radio network has actually reported on something relevant in the past few decades.

  Sure there are wealthy people who don't want to pay more taxes (my relatives in Vermont have told me about wealthy far lefties who resent paying taxes and the monies being used to improve schools in poor districts, especially during Corporate Whore Dean's term as governor), but that never stopped our government from raising taxes on them in the past. Corporate and business interests have left US communities and are no longer there to pay their fare share of the tax bill either. The loss of jobs, the destruction of hope fr children and young peoples, who see no future for themselves because there are no jobs, not even for their parents only serves to increase them giving up on their educations and futures.

  If we removed the children of illegals, there would be dramatically less costs. Of course there would be a reduction based on less students. The reality as it stands now is that the per pupil funding doesn't actually get devoted per pupil. Part of the monies paid in for English speaking American citizen children, ends up getting leached out to help pay for ESL and other increased costs. Less new school construction, because there would be smaller class sizes, more monies to pay for text books, teachers trained in the subjects they teach, and more educational opportunities.

  The children's families abilities to work and earn a higher income would mean happy, more stable family lives. Less stress, alcoholism and drug use. Children would be able to put their attention to their schoolwork, rather than make themselves sick over watching their families fall apart because of stress and fear.

  I know what is going on in the real world, I see it every day. I'm half native American, I live in a multi racial, working class community. My head isn't buried in the sand like your average Grist reader, who look down their noses at poor and middle class American citizens, who are black, brown and white. Who have deceived themselves into the bigotry of rationales for a slave or caste like ownership society. They hate poor black and brown American citizens as much as poor white american citizens, because they've not been willing to be exploited for far leftist extremists agenda. The far lefties believe that illegals are much more docile and will gratefully accept the yoke and the whip. That shows you how isolated and ignorant said far leftists actually are.

  A healthy, saner society, where citizens rights are protected, are earning a wage standard they need to support themselves isn't as divisive. They are more open and interested in community activism, like demanding solar and wind energy in their communities. Of course the corporate and business elites want to push us into such economic instability that a large, suffering poor population could be used to eventually oppress and threaten affluent elites, like yourselves who might have been useful to impose fascism, but are inconvenient once they've outlived their usefulness.

  If you aren't part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. Grist should decide to stop selling out, and consider it's own responsibilities to the problems they've helped impose by their isolation and willngness to hate their fellow citizens, rather than work together as part of the wider community of citizens to take back our country. If they aren't interested, they should shut up and get out of the way.On Let the nativists try eating their words posted 1 year, 11 months ago 9 Responses