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  Politico's journalistic malpractice

  Ever wonder why it was a crime to print the bible in ENGLISH.On Beltway paper runs two of the dumbest stories of the decade on climate science posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago 18 Responses

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  Ignoring climate change will cost U.S. big bucks,

  Models, models, models more models even more models.
  The term used for models is RIRO, RUBBISH IN RUBBISH OUT.

  ITS THE DATA THAT COUNTS.

  CLIMATE CHANGE, WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE.

  To be able to see signs of global warming linked to CO2 you need two things (1) accurate CO2 data and (2) accurate temperature data. There is accurate CO2 data but only since 1958 at Mauna Loa, as for temperature, well there are thousands of high quality rural weather stations throughout the world and especially in the US and the northern hemisphere that have long histories and NO UHI bias. These stations are totally uncontaminated and provide temperature data from a totally natural environment like Mauna Loa does for CO2.

  What do warmers such as Hanson/Giss do, well, they compare data from a highly UHI contaminated urban city weather station with CLEAN data from a neighbouring RURAL station. They then Use some secret algorithm put all the data through a computer which then gives them the result in degrees C. The odd thing is that the result always shows a steep rising temperature trend when the neighbouring RURAL CLEAN data shows only a flat or a slightly rising temperature trend.

  Would it not have been more logical to have discarded the contaminated data from the Urban stations and used only the clean data from the Rural sites. I believe the answer to this is that this method would not allow the fiddling of data.

  Bad data + good data = very good data, because it shows rising temperatures this is called Hansonisation.

  Good data from rural weather stations =  NO link between CO2 and temperature rise and we don`t want that do we. .
  On Ignoring climate change will cost U.S. big bucks, says group posted 1 year, 5 months ago 5 Responses

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  Early warning signs at the Global Warming Café

  To be able to see signs of global warming linked to CO2 you need two things (1) accurate CO2 data and (2) accurate temperature data. There is accurate CO2 data but only since 1958 at Mauna Loa, as for temperature, well there are thousands of high quality rural weather stations throughout the world and especially in the US and the northern hemisphere that have long histories and NO UHI bias. These stations are totally uncontaminated and provide temperature data from a totally natural environment like Mauna Loa does for CO2.

  What do warmers such as Hanson/Giss do, well, they use station pairs and compare data from a highly UHI contaminated urban city weather station with CLEAN data from a neighbouring RURAL station. They then Use some secret algorithm put all the data through a computer which then gives them the result in degrees C. The odd thing is that the result always shows a steep rising temperature trend when the neighbouring RURAL CLEAN data shows only a flat or a slightly rising temperature trend.

  Would it not have been more logical to have discarded the contaminated data from the Urban stations and used only the clean data from the Rural sites. I believe the answer to this is that this method would not allow the easy fiddling of data.

  The Hanson method,
  Bad data + good data = very good data because it shows rising temperatures, this is called Hansonisation.

  Good data from RURAL weather stations =  NO link between CO2 and temperature rise and we don`t want that do we.
  On The Climate Policy Paradigm has reached its endgame posted 1 year, 5 months ago 21 Responses

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  Pour Some Sugar on Swede

  I believe Brazil is one of the few places in the world that is capable of producing sugarcane from two harvests per year, even Brazil cannot produce enough bio-fuel for its own needs without cutting down the rainforest.
  So Brazil exports bio-fuel to satisfy the euro green fanatics and imports oil in its place.
  The US grows grain for bio-fuel instead of food, because of this folly millions are starving to death in the third world.
  You would have thought these fanatical environmentalists would have learned from past mistakes like the DDT fiasco, which has caused hundreds of millions of deaths in the third world over the last 30 years, but fanatics never do learn by there mistakes or they would not be fanatical. On Swedish company will vend verified sustainable ethanol posted 1 year, 5 months ago 9 Responses

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  The Eye of the Storm

  London's Urban Heat Island: A Summary for Decision Makers.

  The urban heat island is caused by the storage of solar energy in the urban fabric during the day and release of this energy into the atmosphere at night.  The process of urbanisation and development alters the balance between the energy from the sun used for raising the air temperature (heating process) and that used for evaporation (cooling process), because the cooling effect of vegetated surfaces is replaced by impervious engineered surfaces.

  The strength of the urban heat island is measured by the `urban heat island intensity', which describes the maximum difference in temperature between urban and rural locations within a given time period. The highest values of the urban heat island intensity, in the region of 6-8oC, are often reached between about 11 o'clock at night and 3 o'clock in the morning (Figure 2). This is why the urban heat island is often referred to as a nighttime phenomenon. UHI intensities are also greater in summer than winter because of contrasts in the amount of energy received from the sun, which is absorbed by the urban surface during the day and released at night. The urban heat island keeps London warmer in winter - this can be seen in how spring occurs earlier in London and snow settles less often.

  Has there been any significant warming since the end of world war2, I think not,the London study shows 6-8 degrees C UHI warming because of population growth and urban development, Tokyo shows similar, so does Sao Paulo, Budapest, shows 3-4 degrees c

  Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

  The total population increase in the 18 years (1967-1984 was 739,591 and the annual mean maximum temperature in the same period became warmer by 1.7 degrees C. The annual mean maximum temperature attained lt`s peak in the year 2000. It is interesting to observe that the urban population was also the highest in that same year.

  Hong Kong Urban Heat Island,

  After analyzing the data, PolyU researchers found that there was an average temperature difference of 7° to 8°C between urban and rural of areas of Hong Kong in a winter night, and the maximum difference could be as high as 12°C. On a summer night, 0.004 degrees C says Peterson.

  http://www.polyu.edu.hk/cpa/polyu/hotnews/details_et.php? ...

  These urban city examples are spread widely over the planet, what does Hanson allow, 0.004C, How do you stop Hansonisation, drop the urban stations and use only rural, easy peasy.  

  Average Global temperature, what average global temperature, global warming what global warming.

  Averaged temps across the state of North Carolina,

  There has been no long-term trend in the state's annual temperature history since 1895

  http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/o ...

  http://www.climateaudit.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/br ...
  On Global temps may drop this year but, alas, world still warming posted 1 year, 5 months ago 132 Responses