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  Wolverine good pts. re: enviro impacts of meat,but

  I don't understand your assertion that the cattle industry's significant contribution to GHG is unproven.  From some of the reports I've read, including the one noted in this Grist artcle, they indicate that the animal flesh production and distribution sector is the biggest GHG emitter.
  Please advise why you don't think these studies prove this to be so? Here a couple of links to  review:
  Diet, Energy and Global Warming - University of Chicago report:
  http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~gidon/papers/nutri/nutriEI.pd ....

  Livestock's Long Shadow - U.N. report
  http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/library/key_pub/longshad/ ...On U.N. climate chief urges eating less meat to combat climate change posted 1 year, 1 month ago 13 Responses

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  Glovetrotter check out these ahem 'meat'-heads

  Mac Danzig-ultimate fighter
  http://www.mensfitness.com/fitness/288

  Kenneth G. Willams - natural bodybuilder
  http://veganmusclepower.org/

  Pat Reeves - powerlifter
  www.veganbodybuilding.org/

  and many more at

  http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

  with apologies to Mr. T...
  I pity the fool who thinks they need to eat poisoned dead flesh to build muscle and be strong and fit.

  Real men have compassion for animals and care about the environment.

  peas!On U.N. climate chief urges eating less meat to combat climate change posted 1 year, 2 months ago 13 Responses

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  for the edification of KMF and Redambrosia

  Foie gras IS made in industrial sized CAFOs in the  US, it's not made on a mythical loving Old Macdonald's Farm sorry to burst your bubble, guys. bubbles are nice, but they kind of skew your view of reality

  Hudson Valley Foie Gras is the largest foie gras producer in the U.S. and one of the largest factory farming corporations in New York State.
  and
  Sonoma Foie Gras buys their ducklings from Grimaud Farms, one of the country's largest duck factory farms.

  Sonoma Foie Gras is responsible for the production of 20% of the United States' foie gras, and the confinement, forced-feeding, and slaughter of over 100,000 ducks a year. At a very young age, the ducks are put into crowded pens in filthy sheds. The floor is covered with feces and vomit. The farm is so unsanitary that rats run freely. Investigators witnessed and documented a rat eating two ducks alive.

  These are 2 shining industry examples who produce the majority of this literally crappy 'food' and the exposure of their operations are the reason that many of these bans have been passed around the country (including the force feeding production ban in CA that will soon go into effect)

  Once they view the videos and photos of the standard industry practices of intense confinement  unsanitary conditions, and rampant disease and the evident pain and suffering of these creatures, many of the more compassionate chefs, such as Wolfgang Puck have come to renounce this 'delicacy of despair' and no longer offer it on their menus.

  Like so much of modern industrial food production, its about greed, and profit first and animal welfare and environmental impacts last, and in the case of the 'foodies' its all about putting on pretensions of being a gourmand or wanting to eat like the elite and appearing to have 'taste' because some marketer told you that this is a 'delicacy' for the refined palate, but you are really just eating an apparently flavorful piece of diseased bird organ produced in an arguably cruel manner. Foie gras is simply gourmet cruelty. bon appetite.

  http://www.gourmetcruelty.com/

   Inside the giant sheds of these factory farms, investigators witnessed and documented tens of thousands of ducks crammed into filthy, crowded pens, and tens of thousands more languishing in tiny isolation cages so small they could barely move, much less spread their wings or turn around.

  At Hudson Valley Foie Gras, investigators found many birds blinded by infections. In some cases, these infections were so severe that it was difficult to tell where their eyes once were.

  At Sonoma Foie Gras, investigators encountered many birds with festering gaping wounds on their rears. Investigators documented two birds literally being eaten alive by a rat. In the isolation cages of Hudson Valley, many birds had painful open wounds and stained the birds in adjacent cages with their blood.

  Investigators also documented the daily torture of the forced-feeding process at both facilities.

  Forced-feeding begins when the ducks are just three months old. For nearly a month, the ducks have a long metal pole repeatedly shoved down their throats. Through this pole, they are forced to ingest a pound of food--a tenth of their healthy body weight--three times a day.

  Investigators documented workers carelessly and roughly grabbing ducks by their throats as they struggled to avoid the forced-feeding pipe. After pumping massive quantities of food into the ducks stomachs, one worker was documented literally throwing birds across the pen.

  Investigators uncovered the aftermath of this forced-feeding at both farms. GourmetCruelty.com documented dying birds covered in their own vomit. The corpses of birds who had suffocated and choked to death from forced-feeding were found in the cages and pens. Numerous garbage cans filled with dead birds, some of whom appeared to have exploded from the forced-feeding process, were also uncovered.

  Along with the cans of corpses and the dead birds who were found in the pens and cages, investigators found decaying corpses on the floor, in piles of excrement, and under pens. The stench of death permeated the sheds. The discarded victims of foie gras production were everywhere, laying testament to the cruelty of the industry. On Chicago overturns 2-year old ordinance banning foie gras posted 1 year, 5 months ago 14 Responses

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  pointed canine teeth or pointed carnivore head?

  since this 'debate' is now citing cartoons like SouthPark (loved the peta send-up as much as their 'smug' episode on prius drivers not mention their slam on gore etc etc etc b-t-w)
  here's a bizarro animating the point re: humans as carnivore v. herbivore:

  http://www.beansandgreens.net/index.php?/archives/111-Are ...
  On Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians posted 2 years, 1 month ago 208 Responses

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  see also

  Diet, Energy and Global Warming

  Gidon Eshel and Pamela Martin
  - University of Chicago

  Earth Interactions, Vol. 10, pp. 1-17, March 2006

  http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~gidon/papers/nutri/nutri.html ...On Umbra on meat eating and global warming posted 2 years, 1 month ago 41 Responses