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2001-2008 cooling trend!?
Hahaaaaaaaahahahaha... You got no idea of statistics and climate. It's the long term trend, stupid. You could perhaps profit from reading tamino's blog - hehe. The last decade says nothing, and that should be obvious even for folks with no idea of math: Just eyeball the whole graph (it's right in front of your eyes, man!). Eyeballing the Hadley graph you presented plus a little confidence in science should be enough to get it. (And no, those models are not like economics models. People bitching at the "models" are mostly economists, a failed pseudoscience. AGW and it's models is something different, it is natural science, based on the laws of Nature which everybody nonpsychotic trusts.)
My last post here.
Mars J. Pictor Florifulgurator, Western Bavarian Forest.
On There is no negative feedback in the climate system posted 9 months, 1 week ago 51 ResponsesClick here to view comment in original post
me too
Tamino even is winner of some 10 worst blog posts award.
PCR is quite a complicated thing, incl. confusing terminology.
The Tamino-Jolliffe "affair" is resolved here:
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/open-thread-5-2/If you're still obsessed with Mann's 1998 hockey stick version, go to climateaudit or visit your psychiatrist.
Quote Jolliffe loc. cit.:
"If there now are people out there claiming that my first post undermines the whole global warming argument, tell me where and I'll refute this misrepresentation as well. Almost any decent statistical model-fitting will give the upward trend at the end of the series, but more importantly there are all the climate models, based mainly on physics rather than statistics, that provide convincing evidence of climate change and the reasons for it. As a statistician, on principle I don't believe anything is absolutely certain, but my view is that the chance of all the climate models having got things completely wrong and that by 2030 the Earth is cooler than in 1950 is of the same order of magnitude as the chance that the USA will decide that independence was a bad idea and ask to be taken back as a British colony by the same date. Not impossible, but I personally wouldn't bet on it."
Mars J. Pictor Florifulgurator, Western Bavarian Forest.
On There is no negative feedback in the climate system posted 9 months, 2 weeks ago 51 ResponsesClick here to view comment in original post
Lovelock says it: Global heating
But I prefer the more comprehensive "anthopogenic biosphere holocaust". It also paints the denialists in the right corner.
Mars J. Pictor Florifulgurator, Western Bavarian Forest.
On 'Climate change,' 'global warming,' 'climate chaos' -- what terminology fits best? posted 9 months, 2 weeks ago 34 ResponsesClick here to view comment in original post
Mo' of Spencer
Just found more of Spencer-debunking by tamino,
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/spencers-folly/
It's about his "Feedback vs. Chaotic Radiative Forcing: "Smoking Gun" Evidence for an Insensitive Climate System".Tamino thinks that Spencer actually believes his stuff.
Looks like one of the finest cases to study the psychopathology of denial.
Much better than the garbled pseudo-maths of "Black Knight" Monckton.
Mars J. Pictor Florifulgurator, Western Bavarian Forest.
On There is no negative feedback in the climate system posted 9 months, 2 weeks ago 51 ResponsesClick here to view comment in original post
Who is tamino?
Who really cares? What counts is scientific coherence. Tamino is obviously a master of statistics and time series analysis. Spencer might have been an eminent scientist or engineer (even Fred Singer once was). But tamino demonstrates by mathematics that Rush Limbaugh's "official climatologist" is out of his wits in recent writings and doesn't get some very basic logics. (A problem every denialist has.)
(See http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1397 for his other affiliations)
On filtering trolls like the infamous kim: This is a necessity if you want to keep the blog readable and keep thread lengths reasonable. Some bloggers and readers like actual scientific discussion, not textual garbage.
Mars J. Pictor Florifulgurator, Western Bavarian Forest.
On There is no negative feedback in the climate system posted 9 months, 2 weeks ago 51 Responses