Tina Fey: ‘Bitch is the new black’ 7

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   caniscandida Posted 8:00 am
   02 Mar 2008

   yay bitch!The Wikipedia article on Tina Fey says:
   
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   Fey is known as a committed environmentalist and has noted that, apart from recycling, she also drives a Lexus hybrid.[28]
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   Her given name, Stamatina, is something of a pun, apparently.  "Stamata!," in Modern Greek, means "Stop doing that!"  But "stamattina," in Italian, means "this morning."  What the point of such a pun might be, is beyond what I can figure out.
   Anyway, it does indeed look like a fine bit of fairness that Saturday Night Live seems to have endorsed Hillary, or at least is giving her some positive coverage, including her own rather well-received appearance.
   Whether that will be enough to eclipse the cool brilliance of Obama (whose birthday, by the way, ironically, is close to Bill Clinton's, in early August, deep in Leo, sign of magnanimous and good-hearted lords, as well as of showmen and clowns, the sign ruled by the Sun) by Tuesday is perhaps not to be counted on.
   
   Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

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   amazingdrx Posted 1:13 pm
   02 Mar 2008

   Punishment timeI would suggest that all women who follow Tina's logic punish men who supported Barack over Hillary in the primary with no sex for the next 8 years.  
   On the other hand we who supported Hillary ought to get rewarded.  Sort of a stick and carrot, skinnerian scheme looking forward to 2016.
   Just a suggestion, please take it under advisement.  
   
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   GreenMom Posted 3:02 pm
   02 Mar 2008

   Psst, David......it's "whom I worship", not "who I worship."  Object of the preposition gets objective case.
   
   (I had to get that off my chest.)
   Anyway, Tina Fey, you go girl!  ...though I'm still voting Obama (pragmatism uber alles).  But the point is well taken.

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   caniscandida Posted 3:43 pm
   02 Mar 2008

   Psst: No, DR, ignore GM!Hi GreenMom.  I know what you are saying, but we got into this a while back, and I pronounced that we should all go with the flow, and allow "who" to stand for both nominative and objective cases of the relative pronoun, retaining "whom" when euphony might recommend it -- as here: "whom I" to my ear sounds nicer than "who I."
   On the other hand, here is a bagatelle, to show that we grammatical purists are still walking arm in arm: We should certainly be allowed to strangle in their beds those who misuse "literally."  And to my knowledge, that is not something that DR, a generally admirable stylist, has ever done.
   On choosing between Hillary and Obama: Oh, poor child!, are you actually in one of those states that votes on Tuesday?  I am SO glad that that responsibility is behind me at this point.  Obama is indeed growing on me, and I wish the lad every success.  And yet, my chivalric duty, I feel (and f**k the feminists, if that bothers them, a lovely company with whom I agree 99% of the time, even when they utter such heart-warming epigrams as, "Having sex with a man is equivalent to sleeping with the enemy"), is to continue to stand by my lady, La Belle Dame a` la Biche d'Or.
   And hopefully, my lady will not remember that I was standing by John Edwards since 2003, the whole time till he dropped out a few weeks ago in NOLA.
   
   Chickens are our cousins! So are fish! So are other sentient animals! Let us learn to be kind.

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   bookerly Posted 8:25 pm
   02 Mar 2008

   Grammar Purists
   
      You will hate me!!!  I always tell my students that English grammar is crazy, and makes no sense.  That it has 300 rules, and 3,000,000 exceptions.  (I have always loved the statement (can't find the quote) in a Robert A. Heinlein novel that English was the result of Norman Knights trying to make dates with Saxon barmaids).
      I then explain that English grammar is not really rule based, but rather usage based, with the rules created as after effects based on usage patterns.  Which of course, change over time, and from place to place.
      By this point they are either crying painfully or rolling on the floor laughing.
      I end by saying to them that they should just learn it, not try to understand it.
      THAT they understand.
   patrick in Beijing

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   GreenMom Posted 7:21 am
   03 Mar 2008

   Ok, uncle!!Ok, Canis, I'll back off, but the whole "who" as object business still grates...but David does write well, so I'll give him this one.
   ...and no, I don't actually vote tomorrow -- worse than that, I live in the state that votes just about dead last -- North Carolina (May 6).  So it may all be moot by the time I fill in the space between the little arrows for Obama.
   It's probably just as well -- I was also an Edwards supporter, because he met two important guidelines I made up:
   
   
   
    try to support the presidential candidate with whom I agree on most things; and
   
    try to support the presidential candidate whose home shares the same zip code as mine.
   
   

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   GreenMom Posted 7:35 am
   03 Mar 2008

   PSPatrick, that Heinlein line is excellent.  I love it.

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