More excerpts from the Couric interview with Palin, on subjects including drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The trademark borderline-incoherence is in full effect:
Here's the transcript. Here's the part on climate change, where she tries to back off or at least muddy up her skepticism:
Couric: Is it man-made, though in your view?
Palin: You know there are -- there are man's activities that can be contributed to the issues that we're dealing with now, these impacts. I'm not going to solely blame all of man's activities on changes in climate. Because the world's weather patterns are cyclical. And over history we have seen change there. But kind of doesn't matter at this point, as we debate what caused it. The point is: it's real; we need to do something about it.
Here's the part where McCain "explains" their difference on drilling in the Refuge:
McCain: Did you expect two mavericks to agree on -- to agree on everything? Look, I ... we just have, we'll be talking more and more about this issue. We do agree on the offshore drilling and other means of limiting our dependence on foreign oil. But for us to agree on everything would make us, I think, a little boring. You can ... say a lot about us, but we're anything but boring.
They'll be talking more and more about this issue. Mm hm.
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Delay And Deny Posted 10:55 am
30 Sep 2008
I'm glad that Palin has you middlebrows all bamboozled.
You create loaded questions, and then whine when she doesn't "answer" them.
Those aren't real questions, it's just the interviewer fishing for a specific answer.
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Biodiversivist Posted 11:05 am
30 Sep 2008
At least until McCain kicks the bucket. That's when it stops being funny.
In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
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Paleocon Posted 1:38 pm
30 Sep 2008
Which VP contender said that FDR went on TV in 1929? Asked a man in a wheelchair to stand up? Lamented the fact that his wife was educated well? Suggested segregating Iraq? Calls Obama Barack America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI&feature=re ...
"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective
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Paleocon Posted 1:57 pm
30 Sep 2008
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=7664 ...
Imagine a scenario where...wait...that's right Fox News was boycotted. But then Hillary thught she got the fairest shake from Fox as the were not Obamaniacs like Gwen.
"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective
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Paleocon Posted 2:17 pm
30 Sep 2008
http://www.monkeyreview.co.uk/index.php/2008/09/26/this-w ...
"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective
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christophersj Posted 4:23 pm
30 Sep 2008
Palin doesn't pass the basics test. Your analogy doesn't work. You sound desperate.
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jas Posted 7:47 pm
30 Sep 2008
And she couldn't name ONE publication she reads. What's that about? Don't you know what you read? Do you read? Use the internet? Watch tee wee? We know you can read, Sarah, we've seen you using the teleprompter...
It's clear she isn't informed, certainly not enough for the job she wants, but what's most disturbing is that Palin possesses zero native intelligence--she can't think on her feet, can't even FAKE a reasonable sounding answer to reasonably easy questions. She has no mental agility whatsoever. I can't believe this is happening.
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sciencebeliever Posted 11:58 pm
30 Sep 2008
and if she believes that man has contributed a teensy little bit, then there seems to be a lack of understanding that it's actually REALLY important to identify the exact causes so you can find the exact solutions.
this is a seriously important question if we're going to do something to minimize the most catastrophic effects of global warming.
i deal with man-made global warming deniers on the daily--many of whom run this country's local governments. it's a scary thing. even scarier if one of them were to become Pres.
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Whiskerfish Posted 1:42 am
01 Oct 2008
I read gristmill because I find nuggets of interest here more regularly than other places.
But jabailo and paleocon have so sullied this environment with such absolutely trivial bullshit that I feel I must ask the powers that be to block their IP addresses from this forum.
I'm all for freedom of speech and un-PC views, but I cannot tolerate wading through their mindless nonsense any longer.
Please, David, can we get rid of them? I'm already down to reading Grist only twice a week instead of daily, largely because of the mounds of crap one has to wade through in the comments section.
I guess jabailo, at least, is being paid for his verbose knee-jerks (no-one else is so constantly ready with an intellectually bankrupt, stale comeback as him). I know his purpose is to pollute this forum. Let's stop the slick before it suffocates this ocean of ideas.
Cheers
Whiskerfish
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Gar Lipow Posted 2:05 am
01 Oct 2008
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PermieWriter Posted 2:29 am
01 Oct 2008
I have to wonder if Palin's mangling of English is entirely unplanned. Some people (i.e. those of room-temp IQ) seem to find it endearing. Gods help us. And I guess she isn't watching Letterman in the time she's not reading newspapers.
Eat what you grow, grow what you eat
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christophersj Posted 3:06 am
01 Oct 2008
This alone would be very helpful as we all lead busy lives, except Jabailo, and could use a reminder to look back at the issue. I miss a lot of good points because time and attention march on.
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David Roberts Posted 3:39 am
01 Oct 2008
And Christopher, on the new site you'll be able to subscribe to discussion threads via RSS, so you can be notified when new comments are left.
I believe the current plan is to roll the new site out in Feb., but as I'm sure y'all know, these things are never set in stone.
grist.org
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wendigo Posted 4:28 am
01 Oct 2008
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MAD MAC Posted 5:13 am
01 Oct 2008
Victory in Pattani
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christophersj Posted 5:13 am
01 Oct 2008
Fortunately I will know how to manually subscribe to individual threads and have them appear in a news reader application when that becomes available, but that still feels like extra steps.
If there were just a selection button (yes or no) in the text box when one responds that says "Want email updates for this thread?" it would be so elegant.
Maybe I'm behind the times, but arent RSS feeds better for semi-permanent things like the Grist Blog or Grist News. Doesnt it take more than a few clicks to subscribe and paste the info into a news reader? And then again to unsubscribe?
Thanks for listening
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David Roberts Posted 5:58 am
01 Oct 2008
I'll see about adding an email option, but generating and sending emails is way more resource-intensive for us than RSS. (Perhaps that will change as well.)
One way or the other, it will be an improvement!
grist.org
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Gar Lipow Posted 6:38 am
01 Oct 2008
As an example, suppose "The Bike Guy" (JBs other login) says "only a lunatic fringe thinks humans have anything to do with global warming. The consensus is its sunspots".
You either answer it, thus feeding the troll, or leave it unanswered. If somebody hears this a lot and does not hear refutations, it can start making it sound plausible. Even if people don't believe it, it contributes strongly to the feeling that it is part of the acceptable range of opinion. Why not give posters the option of deleting posts by trolls? If they abuse them, you could take those rights again. Teresa Nielsen Hayden (known as one of the great blog moderators) has long pointed out that "don't feed the trolls" is actually NOT an effective strategy. Daniel Davies has made the same point. Daniel leans more towards the engaging than the disemvowling or banning. But I think that one reason Dsquared goes for the more labor intensive path is his enjoyment of troll-baiting. At any rate, I really wish you'd rethink "don't feed the trolls" as your primary anti-troll strategy.
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David Roberts Posted 7:26 am
01 Oct 2008
grist.org
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Jon Rynn Posted 8:45 am
01 Oct 2008
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GreenEngineer Posted 10:16 am
01 Oct 2008
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mreinbold Posted 1:07 pm
01 Oct 2008
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christophersj Posted 2:00 pm
01 Oct 2008
All trolls everywhere are truth tellers? Really? Is that really what you want to say? What a significant contribution to critical thinking.
On this subject: the saddest thing about the trolling is that it is out of sync by about 4 or more years. The community here at Grist is in "creative solutions" mode, but the trolls think we are still trying to prove something.
Its like gravity. The Grist crowd is talking about parachute making and the trolls are still in their cave saying gravity can't be 100% accurately described so it doesn't exist. So its not even in the same universe. Its not just trolling -- its bad out of sync trolling.
Really effective and in-sync trolling would be much more fun and relevant. Something like "man, corn ethanol rocks, screw tortilla prices!"
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Gar Lipow Posted 3:03 pm
01 Oct 2008
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Gar Lipow Posted 3:07 pm
01 Oct 2008
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/006036.html ...
Longer discussion:
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008856.html ...
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GreenEngineer Posted 4:32 pm
01 Oct 2008
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Pangolin Posted 6:06 pm
01 Oct 2008
By Sunday evening it can get almost impossible to follow legitimate threads due to this mess.
Otherwise, thank you for all your efforts.
PS- I LIKE disemvoweling. Not quite dungeoning which is my favorite troll-beater but more fun.
Put the Carbon Back
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Paleocon Posted 4:35 am
09 Oct 2008
This is clearly not the place.
It is a club where folks gather who share an economic interest. The link between authors and the Democrat party is stunning. Google for political contributions + author's name.
Chalk another win for "consensus" and "diversity". Silence anyone with a difference of opinion.
A review of my posts will find plenty examples of legitimate questions and points. Mt silly posts certainly pale in comparison to the calls for exterminating humans from some.
I will find a place where other scientists meet.
"...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective
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GreenEngineer Posted 7:45 am
09 Oct 2008
Even your sig reveals your profound misunderstanding of the issue: It's not the last 50 years we're worried about, it's the next 50 years. Ever hear of nonlinear processes?
But, yeah, do go. Find yourself a place more suited to your interests. Please. When you've got something useful to add to the discussion here, come back.
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