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   MikeCapone Posted 10:21 am
   14 Mar 2005

   Dave PollardI read his blog daily. Great guy with great ideas!
   I'm sure most gristmill readers would enjoy his writing, so I strongly recommend that you bookmark his site.
   
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   jdhlax Posted 11:48 am
   14 Mar 2005

   Will The Real Environmentalist Please Stand Up?Regardless of whether Dave Pollard did it consciously, the colors make it clear which side of his psyche is the environmentalist.

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   birdboy Posted 12:30 pm
   14 Mar 2005

   no worriesAm I the only one who hears "smiling happy people" when I read the crap on the right side? This kind of unabashed optimism should be outlawed. Save it for the kiddies, Dave. Absolutely none of these wonderful changes will occur as long as people have property rights- when you own the resources, you do what you want with them. Better yields per acre come at the expense of chemical fertilizers and pesticides. The nutritional value of our crops is already down and will continue to drop until we replace the nutrients that we took from the land at harvest. At >6 billion, we are down to about 5 acres per person- if only 50% is left wild to clean the air and water and give some portion of earth's species a chance, we have a couple acres of land to feed and house each person for life- better hope your's is good fertile land with lots of trees, water, and a steady breeze. Renewable energy is not quite as reliable or quick to please as fossil fuels- better plan on a few lifestyle changes. But I'm sure most of the 9 billion folks won't mind a little sacrifice for the birds and bees and somebody else's grandchildren, right? RIGHT?
   Because this 'grand enlightenment' is just around the corner, right?
   
   a liberal in redsville

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   MikeCapone Posted 12:44 pm
   14 Mar 2005

   HehBirdboy, I'm quite sure that Dave's "real" persona is the one on the left. Not that many people out there aren't arguing the points on the right...
   
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   Dave Pollard Posted 3:41 pm
   14 Mar 2005

   Can't winThe last time one of my posts was discussed here I was falsely accused of advocating heinous acts to bring about population decline. Now my unabashed optimism should be outlawed. Even when I argue with myself I lose. Sheesh... ;-)
   Great environment blogroll you have here, BTW.

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   birdboy Posted 11:37 am
   15 Mar 2005

   optimism or excuses?Sorry, Dave, I'm being a tad harsh. It's just that the 'right' (wing) uses those arguements to justify their refusal to do anything to help, and even try to discredit those who point to the problems. In fact, the ones who are pushing all that optimism the hardest are the very ones making a profit from the resource hogging and waste dumping that futher reduces our chances of healing the earth and supporting its population. If I heard the optimism coming from those who have the power and money to make the changes happen, and saw them backing-up their optimism with action, I might buy into it myself.
   'Till then, I'll just lean on this 'alarm' button and take shots at high-flying optimists.
   
   a liberal in redsville

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