Projecting over his head
Town hall again reveals just an anti-science, out-of-touch McCain 10
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Posted 5:57 PM on 9 Oct 2008
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Joseph Romm is the editor of Climate Progress and a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress.
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saluki Posted 1:18 am
10 Oct 2008
Really, who gives a damn what it is. We just stuck the taxpayer with a 700 billion bill because the Democrats wanted to give housing to people who couldn't pay for it. How dare they tack another 150 billion in pork to that. That's adding insult to injury. Don't people like you ever think about where that money will come from when you come up with your endless parade of cool things to buy with other people's money?
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saluki Posted 1:47 am
10 Oct 2008
Yeah, what we need is more of the same from Obama that just brought us into the current financial crisis. I've seen two adds from the Obama camp that clearly illustrates just how stupid this man is.
In the first add Obama proposes to fix health care by attacking Health Care companies. In the second add he promises to fix people's insurace by forcing the insurance companies to accept people with pre conditions that will cost the insurance companies big time. And then he claims that this will save families a lot of money. Is Obama such a moron that he learned nothing from the financial crisis that he helped produce. Now that he and the Democrats have succeeded at destroying our financial institutions, are they also going to destroy our health care institutions and our insurance companies?
One of the characteristics that all of the idiot left seems to have in common is that they think of the nations coorporations as big endless bags of money that need to be exploited by the government. They don't see them as entities that supply us with jobs, that supply us with the products we need, and that supply the government with a hell of a lot of tax money. So the left always takes the position that large corporations must be attacked as the enemy rather than defended for all of the things that they provide to us. Obama has the same brainwashed notions, and so we can depend on him to destroy our economy even further once he is elected.
Of course there is also the manipulative and cynical side of the left. Their approach is to take advantage of peoples greed by promising to take money from entities that have few votes (the rich, big corporations), and give it to people who have a lot of votes (their dumb constituents). The voting members of the left are so dumb that they actually believe that you can take money from the insurance companies and give it to them and that nothing else will happen. It's as though they think that the insurance companies need only print the money. Of course Obama's generosity will be paid for by the very people that he is promising to be generous to. Because the insurance companies will either have to raise their rates or they will go bankrupt. So in essence, Obama promises his idiot voters that he will take a thousand dollars out of their wallets and then give it back to them. And his idiot follower cheer at his generosity and humanity.
I believe that Obama will be elected, and he may even end up with a Democratic Senate with 60 Democrats, so that there will be no stopping his destruction of the country's economy by anyone. I pity our nation.
The last Democatic candidate, Bill Clinton, was a moderate compared to Obama. And Clinton had 6 years of a Republican congress to keep him reigned in. Turning Obama loose on the country will be like putting the fox in the hen house and still expecting to get eggs.
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gzuckier Posted 5:39 am
10 Oct 2008
and to think that my biggest complaint about obama is that he is not progressive enough.
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Duggles Posted 5:53 am
10 Oct 2008
And as for all of that 150 billion dollars of pork? The difference between passing the bill and not passing the bill was that House Republicans refused to pass it unless it was full of pork.
And McCain's plan to make the taxpayer pay for all of these bad loans? Yikes.
...Maybe one of my old coworkers was right this summer when he said (even before Lehman Bros. and AIG et al failed) that the economy wasn't waiting until the election to take a nosedive because the markets knew that they were screwed with either one of these clowns.
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saluki Posted 2:32 pm
11 Oct 2008
No, it is only the right who ever tries to lessen the load on the taxpayer. Bill Clinton's ecomomy was due mostly to a Republican Congress. Bill never wrote any legislation.
The excessive spending that has occured during the Bush administration is no reflection on conservatives. All the conservatives that I know hate Bush's free handed spending. The problem is that it was tough for Republican Senators and Congressmen to oppose Bush's spending plans since he was their President and since he was from their party. Their refusal to pass the first bailout bill was one of the first times that they went against him. Even the second bailout bill was not voted for by the majority of Republicans.
"And as for all of that 150 billion dollars of pork? The difference between passing the bill and not passing the bill was that House Republicans refused to pass it unless it was full of pork."
No, you are full of crap. The bill that was passed was a Senate bill, and it was the Senate Democrats that loaded it up with pork. A few more House Republicans voted for the bill the second time because it had more taxpayer protections and because it didn't give Paulsen a free hand at spending taxpayer money as he pleased.
"the economy wasn't waiting until the election to take a nosedive because the markets knew that they were screwed with either one of these clowns."
With McCain at times trying to out-Democrat the Democrats, that is probably true.
The nice thing about Obama being elected is that Republicans won't have to take the blame for the kind of leftist policies that McCain would undoubtedly compromise his way to. With McCain in the White House, Republicans would never get Congress back. The Democrats have controlled Congress for the last 2 years; the courts forever, and starting in January they will control everything. Then they won't be able to blame their failures on anyone else, though lord knows they will try. People will quickly recognize that they are getting screwed; they will be desperate to stop the extreme policies of Obama, and Congress can then be returned to the Republicans. This pattern seems to repeat itself as people need to be reminded periodically that the Democratic utopian pretentions are good for nothing but making them miserable.
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RDMiller Posted 7:58 pm
11 Oct 2008
I appreciate it greatly when this Grist discussion remains focused on examining environmental issues and solutions. To the extent politics effects this topic, the discussion should be extended to that as well.
I have no use for feedback from posters like Saluki and Jabailo, and I do believe it detracts from this site. Saluki's comments, in particular, are disrespectful, mean-spirited and simply counter productive. They add virtually nothing of value and do not contribute to what I suspect is the mission of Grist: to build a more sustainable future.
I think Saluki is capable of engaging here in a respectful, and even intelligent, manner, but I read little of that. What I read is language that is hate filled, angry, frustrated and demeaning. I don't see how this serves the mission of Grist.
I've noticed few people here respond directly to Saluki anymore, hoping maybe she'll get the message and either change her tone or go away entirely. Perhaps this will work over time. Still, I think a few choice words from Grist management to her might be in order. It would improve the quality of this site.
Richard
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Biodiversivist Posted 3:45 am
12 Oct 2008
Personal ad hominem attacks:
...certified eco nut...
Thank you for admitting that you are an eco fascist.
....you are full of crap...
An eco fascist confesses
...you are an eco fascist.
...kooks like you are fascists at heart.
...nuts like you...
...a dumb analogy.
...the stupidity of your statement Bio...
Pangolin is too stupid...
Only a birdbrain...
...your inability to think...
Yglesias is a left wing idiot...
...your moronic pronouncement...
...a simple minded leftist.
...fellow eco-cultist...
...eco nut...
Child-like immature taunting:
Blah, blah, blah, yeah, I believe the same about you. Do we have to have these stupid discussions.
In your face greenie wennie.
Generalized denigration of anyone with differing viewpoints:
...the idiot left...
...dumb constituents...
The voting members of the left are so dumb...
Obama promises his idiot voters ...
...his idiot follower cheer...
Eco-cultists...
...brain dead leftists.
...the lunatic left...
...the lunatic left ...
...a collection of left wing eco nuts...
...left wing eco nut...
...a left wing eco nut...
...including eco nuts.
...eco cultists think...
...you eco cultists ...
In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
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Pangolin Posted 5:20 am
12 Oct 2008
Now the spamming and off topic posts make everything in the response threads all but unreadable. The sooner that upgrade shows up the better.
Put the Carbon Back
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Duggles Posted 7:35 am
12 Oct 2008
However, I do see how this can distract from the quality of the discussion of the topic at hand. In the interest of not contributing to the cesspool-like nature of discussion on the Internets, in the future I shall attempt to avoid making posts that are not constructive.
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David Roberts Posted 8:24 am
12 Oct 2008
Duggles: thank you -- we'll hold you to it.
Saluki: bye bye.
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