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   Wolverine Posted 6:16 am
   14 Mar 2008

   The Result Of Using Artificial ChemicalsThe worst aspect of using products with toxic chemicals is that those chemicals end up in the natural environment.  Even though we live in San Francisco, I always buy cleaners that my friends who live in rural areas use, because those friends cannot afford to use bad chemicals that will end up in their drinking water.  Like some fanatic nut, I end up reading labels in the store and asking questions no one working there can answer.
   The article left a lot unexplained: if even products with coconut based surfactants were found to contain 4-dioxane, how did the other products manage to eliminate it?  What is the controlling factor?
   Because this is about business, albeit the "health food" business, one can only assume that the answer is that companies that are willing to spend the money have eliminated the 1,4-dioxane from their products, and those that won't spend the money haven't.

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   Seventh Gen Posted 6:34 am
   14 Mar 2008

   Seventh GenerationWe applaud the Organic Consumer Association's (OCA) recent research efforts to educate consumers about the safety of personal care and home cleaning products.  It is important for consumers to know that Seventh Generation's dish liquid, which does contain a minute amount of the ethoxylate 1,4-dioxane, is deemed safe according to the FDA's and our own strict guidelines.
   We are committed to eliminating all harmful chemicals from household cleaning products.  Consistent with our core mission, we have worked with surfactant manufacturers for many years to reduce levels of 1,4-dixoane in ethoxylated surfactants and it is our intent to completely eliminate 1,4-dioxane from all of our products.
   The OCA research reviewed personal care products such as hand soaps and shampoos alongside household cleaning products with different usage and efficacy requirements. As noted in the Los Angeles Times on March 14, 2008, "Dishwashing liquids are particularly hard to keep free of 1,4-dioxane because they require surfactants that are powerful grease cutters." Liquid laundry detergents also require surfactants for stain removal.
   We share the OCA's concerns about the misuse of terms such as "organic" and "natural" and the lack of disclosure requirements.  We have championed this cause and have led the market for twenty years. We also believe that the decision to stop using conventional synthetic chemical cleaners is one of the most important ones you'll ever make for the health of your family and the safety of your home. While our products are not perfect today, we will continue to improve them and are confident that they are a much better and safer choice than traditional cleaning products.
   Is There An Alternative to Ethoxylates?
   We don't believe that today there is a better or safer choice. Ethoxylation is used to modify plant oils to make them function as surfactants.  It is possible to create surfactants without ethoxylation, but there are trade-offs.  One alternative, for example, is to use exclusively petroleum-derived materials.  However, this is less sustainable than using renewable plant oils. Petroleum-derived surfactants may also have less desirable biodegradability and toxicity profiles. For anionic (negatively charged) surfactants, another alternative is to not ethoxylate the plant oils.  The resulting surfactants (SLS, for example) are more irritating than the equivalent ethoxylated surfactant.
   It is also worth noting that all of the dish liquids tested by the OCA contained ethoxylates. Furthermore, according to the OCA, no viable alternative currently exists and will need to be developed and thoroughly tested.
   For our dish liquids and liquid laundry detergents, ethoxylates help deliver products that work. While that is true for now, we are working to eliminate ethoxylates from all products in the future.
   Our Commitment To You
   Consumers want to know what ingredients are in the products they use in their homes and they want to be informed about the potential effects of these chemicals on their health and the health of their families.  At Seventh Generation, we believe the best way to produce this information to consumers, at the point of purchase, is through full disclosure of ingredients on product labels.  
   That's why we're proud to have led the industry as one of the few manufacturers of household cleaning products to voluntarily disclose ingredients.  Seventh Generation has instituted a two tier system of disclosure, using consumer-friendly descriptions on our packaging (for example, "coconut oil derived cleaning agent"), and specific chemical or INCI names on our Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS), which are available on our website.  In addition to ingredient disclosure on our labels and MSDS, as described above, consumers are able to call our toll-free number for ingredient lists, or for additional information about each ingredient.
   Seventh Generation has submitted testimony to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) asking that they include definitions for "organic" and "natural" in the revised edition of the Green Marketing Guidelines.  This will assure that all manufacturers use the terms "organic" and "natural" in a consistent way.
   At present, the term "natural" does not have a regulated definition.  In the absence of regulation Seventh Generation has defined "natural" to mean "derived from natural materials."  Surfactants that are made from plant oils and minerals are "natural" by this definition. This includes the surfactants used in our products.
   Learn More
   There are a number of organizations working to educate consumers about safer household and personal care products.  We encourage consumers to learn more about Women's Voices for the Earth, their Safe Cleaning Products Initiative, and to get the facts about safe cleaning products in their report, Household Hazards.

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   Angry African Posted 4:46 am
   15 Mar 2008

   Some standards please?Thanks for this. Another reason why we need clear standards that should be communicated in clear ways to the consumers.

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   stte Posted 7:27 pm
   15 Mar 2008

   AlternativesThere are certainly alternatives to the ethoxylates and products that work well around the home, including Dr. Bronner's 18 in 1 soap for washing dishes that tested free from 1,4-dioxane.  At the press conference David Bronner stated this clearly.  He knows his sudsing and cleaning agents, actually quite well.  
   Seventh Generation's line is quite excellent, no doubt, and what these finding suggest is the need for a consumer education campaign and for Seventh Generation to be first on the market with a certified organic household dishwashing product without petrochemicals--especially this time in our nation's history when we are battling what even the president calls an addiction to oil.  Millions of consumers would choose petroleum free dishwashing liquid.

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   rmainer Posted 10:22 am
   17 Mar 2008

   scary soundingWhat is scary sounding about dioxane?  We are now condemning substances because we don't like their names? You want scary sounding?  Try ethanoic acid. (Look it up.)

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   naturalguy Posted 6:08 am
   18 Mar 2008

   ExposedI find it pretty interesting that it takes this report to call out our natural products leaders on the lies and deception that plagues the industry. Formaldehyde aplogies and we are working on it, seems to be a pretty cavalier attitude. Some of the people on the list may not have known 1,4 dioxane was in their products as the chemcial companies that sell the materials don't need to disclose either.
   Anyway, you shape this up, it should lead to better advancements in the products to move to contaminant free and effective solutions.

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