Get pumped: Sierra has updated its guide to choosing the least-evil gas stations. And they've condensed it to fit in a handy travel-sized package: a rearview-mirror air freshener, which could not be more appropriate considering how gassy Americans are. (We consume some 400 million gallons of crudeness a day!)
Below, the top eight oil companies ranked from evil to even more evil:
Top of the BarrelMiddle of the Barrel
- BP
- Sunoco
Bottom of the Barrel
- Royal Dutch Shell
- Chevron
- Valero Energy Corporation
- Citgo
- ExxonMobil
- ConocoPhillips
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amazingdrx Posted 12:19 am
01 Aug 2007
Now if only they would go ethanol-free with their gas.
http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
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wiscidea Posted 1:00 am
01 Aug 2007
Forward!
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Ron Steenblik Posted 2:43 am
01 Aug 2007
Q: What is corn-based ethanol?
A: A fuel additive commodity with mixed reviews, that involves political patronage and taxpayer subsidies to exist. Corn simply is not a justifiable source of fuel for vehicles. Diverting corn from the food table and animal feed stocks to power cars drives up the cost of food and returns very little energy for the fuel invested to produce it.
Q: What is your Ethi-Nol© brand?
A: A branded ethanol with a pre-emptive promise of good citizenship and environmental stewardship. "No corn was injured in the making of this product."
Q: With my company needing more ethanol of any kind than it can get it hands on, why should I promise my customers that they are not buying corn-based ethanol?
A: Soon, very soon, corn farmers will not be able to meet even 1 percent of the ethanol demand and all vendors will rely on cheaper cane and cellulose ethanol. By boycotting corn ethanol and branding Ethi-Nol©, you can lock up non-corn sources while making a splash with your White Hat image.
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Delay And Deny Posted 8:49 am
01 Aug 2007
Man, Grist, you are pathetic.
"Best gas stations"...how about "friendliest martinet"?
We're moving away from GAS-O-LINE to GAS -- as in H2, which you (H2)8rs can't stand.
John Bailo
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wiscidea Posted 9:07 am
01 Aug 2007
Hydrogen? That's so late 20th century.
Forward!
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J. Walsh Posted 12:49 am
02 Aug 2007
wow
and that does not even include their billions in dollars in Superfund cleanup liabilities they have found for 15 years.
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kmp Posted 1:07 am
02 Aug 2007
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amazingdrx Posted 1:42 am
02 Aug 2007
http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
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wiscidea Posted 1:49 am
02 Aug 2007
Surely not the best slogan I can come up with, but I'll keep working on it.
And no, the GMOs have not crawled out of their tubes and modified me... as far as I know.
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eriqa Posted 2:32 am
02 Aug 2007
Befouling Pristine Waters...
...to bring you Bio-Petrol.
(Bike Proudly.)
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amazingdrx Posted 2:45 am
02 Aug 2007
http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
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wiscidea Posted 2:56 am
02 Aug 2007
Think we could get Monsanto, BP, Scotts, and GM behind this?
heheheheh
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wiscidea Posted 3:08 am
02 Aug 2007
I know some of you don't have cars. Congratulations for breaking free of our cultural addiction to petroleum... seriously... it probably wasn't easy. Wish I had the courage and to do the same.
But what about the rest of you? Why do you still have cars? Why not move to a place where you don't need a car? There have been plenty of examples described on this very website.
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amazingdrx Posted 3:10 am
02 Aug 2007
Armageddon here we come!
All for the bottomline. Funny stuff alright.
Can't wait until the ethanol nodule bluegrass catches fire! What a firestorm. Oooh the colors. Spread it across the prairie and conservation reserve land too.
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wiscidea Posted 3:11 am
02 Aug 2007
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GreyFlcn Posted 3:12 am
02 Aug 2007
http://globalpublicmedia.com/the_reality_report_the_myths ...
Unless of course that material would have found it's way into a waste treatment facility, or landfill.
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=49 ...
Using agricultural fodder isn't "waste".
http://culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content ...
http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/05/why-cellulosic-ethanol- ...
http://www.stopbp-berkeley.org/CellulosicBiofuels.pdf
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wiscidea Posted 3:21 am
02 Aug 2007
Forward!
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amazingdrx Posted 3:21 am
02 Aug 2007
they will do both! luckily 10s of billions have just been added to the national debt for new nukes. but is GMO falling behind in subsidies?
Let's hope not! We need cancer and mutation to save the planet from human infestation.
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wiscidea Posted 3:30 am
02 Aug 2007
"Thorium has been extracted chiefly from monazite through a multi-stage process. In the first stage, the monazite sand is dissolved in an inorganic acid such as sulfuric acid (H2SO4). In the second, the Thorium is extracted into an organic phase containing an amine. Next it is separated or "stripped" using an anion such as nitrate, chloride, hydroxide, or carbonate, returning the thorium to an aqueous phase. Finally, the thorium is precipitated and collected."
Hmmmm... I wonder whether we can engineer a plant that could do this? Collect from soil via deep roots, concentrate it in easily harvested leaves. Yes. We'll get right on it. We'll make the leaves hot pink and very bitter so nobody accidentally eats them. What could go wrong?
But what about those automobiles???
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amazingdrx Posted 3:32 am
02 Aug 2007
http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
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amazingdrx Posted 3:39 am
02 Aug 2007
Not to mention lots of renewable electric powered light rail and buses. And mega miles of bike trails.
As mass transit and bike trails and batteries get better, zero fuel will be needed.
but all your GMO grass will blanket the earth by then. How to eradicate it and restore nature once that happens?
More GMO, right? Hehehey. It's always the same answer. More of the same disastrous, budget killing contractor corruption. Self perpetuating corporate kleptocaracy.
nuclear waste? reactors that eat waste. funny guys.
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wiscidea Posted 4:23 am
02 Aug 2007
Scroll up a bit to reach my question under "Returning to topic...".
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Sam Wells Posted 6:11 am
02 Aug 2007
In most areas of the country, gasoline is a fungible product pipelined from one or more refineries. The truckers fill up their tanks and add a 5-gallon pail or two of additive such as "System 3" or some hooey like that. The actual brand of gasoline has very little meaning these days when you buy it at the pump. The outlets can be captive (only sell what a certain truck carriers) or independent (sell whatever he or she wants).
I've written about this before when people wanted to boycott a certain brand, such as Citgo or Exxon. A boycott probably HELPS their marketing because the refiners don't sell just to stores having their corporate signs. The sell to the highest bidder the can find, a penny here or there wins the deal.
Do you have an accounting of where your water comes from? Is it well #59 or surface acreage from a certain impoundment lake intake? You just don't know, do you, since water is water.
Same for gasoline, folks.
sammie
Onward through the fog
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GreyFlcn Posted 6:18 am
02 Aug 2007
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Also just to cut things short on that GMO discussion.
Realistically plants get 3-6% solar efficiency.
And the VERY BEST a plant could hope to yield is 11%, since thats the Physics limitation of photosynthesis.
11% after you factor in all the losses past that in the fuel chain makes even the worst solar panels look idea.
As is, Sugar Cane is the best crop out there, and it's still pitiful compared to solar.
http://greyfalcon.net/sugarsolar
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wiscidea Posted 6:36 am
02 Aug 2007
Forward!
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wiscidea Posted 6:37 am
02 Aug 2007
I know some of you don't have cars. Congratulations for breaking free of our cultural addiction to petroleum... seriously... it probably wasn't easy. Wish I had the courage and to do the same.
But what about the rest of you? Why do you still have cars? Why not move to a place where you don't need a car? There have been plenty of examples described on this very website.
Forward!
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gmunger Posted 7:21 am
02 Aug 2007
And the VERY BEST a plant could hope to yield is 11%, since thats the Physics limitation of photosynthesis.
Based on the mountain of squash on my kitchen counter, I'd say my zuchinni plants are capable of way more than 11%. Why can't we make liquid fuel from zuchinni? I've got surplus...
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