McCain’s running mate has offered mixed message on climate change 11

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   Johanna K Posted 1:27 am
   12 Sep 2008

   Well, McCain has a very consistent record-His message is clear: here is a detailed list with links to roll call votes: McCain voted 50 times against clean energy

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   mreinbold Posted 3:56 am
   12 Sep 2008

   I love the Sarah Palinwho thinks Algore is an idiot.

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   AdvocateOfLife Posted 12:47 am
   13 Sep 2008

   New Climate Change WikiIf you are interested in climate change, you are invited to contribute to
   http://beautifulplanetearth.wikispaces.com/
   Together we want to come up with a coherent theory of climate change incorporating all scientific findings concerning the issue.

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   amazingdrx Posted 1:04 am
   13 Sep 2008

   Flip flop flip flopShe doesn't know what she thinks until her lobbyist campaign handlers tell her what to think.  That's decisive leadership?  
   It's nice that she noticed the permafrost melt destroying Alaskan's homes though.  Did she notice it threatening to destroy existing oil pipelines?
   Time for another flip flop?  
   
   http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

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   mreinbold Posted 6:53 am
   13 Sep 2008

   Want to come up with a coherent theoryof climate change. Well, well, you are admitting that there isn't one.

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   GreyFlcn Posted 8:47 am
   13 Sep 2008

   re: mreinboldSo the Statospshere (upper atmosphere) and the Troposphere (lower atmosphere) are the two primary layers of earth's atmosphere.
   They represent over 99% of it, the rest is essentially just vacuum.
   _
   Now can you explain to me why the Stratosphere is getting colder?
   Since the way I see it.  It's as if there's something in the Troposphere blocking heat from getting into the Stratosphere.
   Meanwhile, the Troposphere is heating up.
   http://greyfalcon.net/trends2.png
   
   -David Ahlport

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   GreyFlcn Posted 8:51 am
   13 Sep 2008

   ArgWrong link
   This is the correct one.
   
   http://greyfalcon.net/forcing2.png
   
   -David Ahlport

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   GreyFlcn Posted 8:58 am
   13 Sep 2008

   AnywaysOn the original topic.
   McCain's policy reversal list is a mile long ;D
   
   http://thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops
   
   http://thinkprogress.org/mccain-flip-flops
   
   -David Ahlport

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   mreinbold Posted 10:00 am
   13 Sep 2008

   Wowthat was coherent?

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    GreyFlcn Posted 10:24 am
    13 Sep 2008

    Simpler? OK.Wow, that was coherent?
    
    Fair enough, how about this:
    You effectively got 2 atmospheric layers that make up the near entirety of our atmosphere.
    You got sunlight coming into the earth, and heat reflecting back out into space.
    If "something" in the lower layer, were blocking heat from getting to the upper layer; Then what you'd expect to see is that the lower layer would get hotter while the upper layer would get colder.
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    Well guess what,
    
    That's exactly what's been happening.
    
    http://greyfalcon.net/forcing2.png
    
    -David Ahlport

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    mominmo2139 Posted 12:47 am
    16 Sep 2008

    This Planet I LoveIt is not a question that the climate is changing and it is not a question that the people that live here are impacting its change.  The only question is what the eventual outcome will be.  On one side you have the uncontroled heating of the Earth until it becomes a red world instead of the blue one and on the other, you have a world that heats to a point then freezes in an ice age.  Argue as much as you want about the outcome but none of them are acceptable.  Change is hard and scarry.  Change is probably the most scarry thing out there.  One way or another and at some point in time, it will be necessary to change.  This time, let us change in the right ways before it is thrust upon us!

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