“Throughout our history, there’s been a tension between those who’ve sought to conserve our natural resources for the benefit of future generations, and those who have sought to profit from these resources. But I’m here to tell you this is a false choice. With smart, sustainable policies, we can grow our economy today and preserve the environment for ourselves, our children, and our grandchildren.”
—President Barack Obama, speaking at an event honoring the 160th anniversary of the creation of the Department of Interior on Tuesday
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Bart Anderson Posted 12:47 pm
04 Mar 2009
It would be almost impossible for any politician to say otherwise.
Problem is, we are near the end of growth, or at least the sort of growth we've become accustomed to. Unless we can come to terms with this possibility and plan for it, we will make bad decisions.
Bart
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Wolverine Posted 4:21 pm
04 Mar 2009
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John former Marine Posted 10:48 pm
04 Mar 2009
There's no reason to assume that our civilization will eventually collapse, like every single other civilization before us that eventually overextended itself, exhausted its soils, or enslaved/exploited a large number of "barbarians" who eventually fought for their own freedoms.
Il faut cultiver notre jardin.
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amazingdrx Posted 12:34 am
05 Mar 2009
Energy consumers want their beer cooled. Now we mine coal, transport coal, burn coal, transport electricity to their homes, all to run their refrigerator to cool that beer.
If that beer were cooled with energy from a solar panel on their roof, the beer still gets cold. And all that mining combustion and so forth becomes unecessary.
Switching over to distributed renewable energy produces growth, but it does it by eliminating mutltiple levels of destruction. Like wise with plugin hybrid carbon fiber vehicles, electrified rail, and ground source heating/cooling.
More jobs and manufacturing, less energy use, less destruction. Paradoxical maybe, but only to the misinformed.
http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin
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John former Marine Posted 12:45 am
05 Mar 2009
Il faut cultiver notre jardin.
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amazingdrx Posted 1:18 am
05 Mar 2009
we can grow our economy today and preserve the environment
Obama is right.
One small solar panel, powering a refrigerator with saltwater ice storage, is practical. This innovation would produce economic growth and lower energy use, simultaneously.
Just like many other renewable energy and energy conservation devices.
It's true, my cold beer preference is philistine in the extreme.
http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin
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Pompey Road Posted 1:55 am
05 Mar 2009
Where are all the supply sider's! Catch the renewable sustainable wave of future economics and create a market for the Joe Six Packs of the world. If the economy fails and I have to revert back to the moonshine days of my ancestors I am going solar also.
Will be easy to conceal my still if I don't have the smoke giving its location away to the revenue'ers.
Seriously Exxon has the revenue to pursue renewables and create a market. The production and the transportation of their main product can not be guaranteed anymore. That puts doubt in the market and doubt is synonymous with fear over time.
Where is ol J.D when you need him, I guarantee if he were still alive he would be trying to get the monopoly on sunshine!
The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.
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Delay And Deny Posted 4:09 pm
05 Mar 2009
The problem is most of us never get to "tap into these natural resources".
All but 3 percent of us are crammed into tiny 100x40 ft lots, many smaller, with no property, and little of value.
No wonder we throw wrappers on the sidewalk and act like buffoons.
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Pompey Road Posted 11:16 pm
05 Mar 2009
30 year plan to dump all manufacturing to cheap labor, no environmental cost, no health care or retirement cost has stripped the economy of good middle class jobs. The trend of putting your money in Switzerland or offshore means no one is paying taxes but the middle class.
Most of the middle class is now losing that 40 X 100 lot and could not afford to buy a renewable or sustainable anyway so its all a moot point.
The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.
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