Reid makes good point about coal with bad analogy about Hitler 6

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   LGT Posted 11:24 am
   25 Feb 2008

   Mining Sets Off Earthquake in GermanyAn earthquake caused by coal mining shook the Saarland region of Germany on the French border Saturday.
   
   http://feww.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/mining-sets-off-eart ...

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   tico89 Posted 12:31 pm
   25 Feb 2008

   Then there's the other strategy...There's the so-called 'Hitler' strategy, although I firmly believe it's been around a lot longer than that, that you've outlined. Then there's the other strategy, that appears to have been used against Mr Reid--what I call the 'can't see the wood for the trees' strategy (although 'refuse to see the wood...' would be more accurate I suppose).
   It works a bit like this. You don't like a comment or speech that someone has made, but you don't have the ammunition to counter it? Go into nitpicking mode, look through for one small inconsistency or exaggeration, and immediately trumpet that the person is clearly unreliable; refusing to see the bigger picture. Seen employed by deniers worldwide, such as in the 'but this was a cold winter/weak hurricane season/freezing day' arguments.
   I thought it was a pretty good speech, the bit quoted at the end, if the statistics are completely accurate.
   Btw, "they would consume Page 9 of 12 114 million gallons"? Better than consuming Page 10 of it, I suppose...
   Sorry, just proving that no one is free from nitpicking.
   
   If I share initials with 'Global Warming', is that a sign?

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   Delay And Deny Posted 2:29 pm
   25 Feb 2008

   Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel
   
   Wasn't Reid the leading Democrat who wanted us to wave the white flag in Iraq -- oh, yes, before the surge helped us win over there!
   Back then Nancy Pelosi used to be his moll.  Now he's flying solo and trying to milk the wrong side of yet another fruitless issue...
   As far as the Senator's home state of Nevada...
   http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USNV0079.html

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   Pangolin Posted 2:59 pm
   25 Feb 2008

   Nevada has more "green energy"than almost any state in the nation. The sun always shines, it has plentiful and easily developed geothermal resources and it has flat plains and exposed ridges perfect for harvesting wind.
   Too bad about that water problem though.  
   Oh, and Harry Reid is still right about Iraq. If you don't believe him fly to Baghdad and take a nice long walk outside of the Green Zone without a military escort.
   Iraq was, is and remains a disaster. We spent our childrens inheritence to steal oil that we couldn't afford to burn if it was free. Compared to the number of people climate change could/will kill Hitler will be considered an amateur.
   
   Put the Carbon Back

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   Pompey Road Posted 10:44 pm
   25 Feb 2008

   Hitler's Alternative Energy LegacyIronic about the Reid's snafu, as a consequence of our bombing Hitler's oil production capacity to levels he could not fight a war with, german inginuity gave us coal gasification and coal to liquid technology.
   South Africa kept the technology going and now China has come on board with it.
   I am wondering, although not clean enough for my taste could it be cleaned up enough to use if we had to hold our nose and allow it.
   Is there enough carbon reduction in the final product to justify it or does producing the product offset any gains in that area.
   I notice some power plants switch to gas to lower emisions. As much as I would like to see the stuff stay burried there is so much coal here in the U.S., it will be burned. The only hope is to clean up the process and develop a product that will not leave such a heavy carbon footprint.  
   The destructive mining methods will also have to be stopped, if it can't be mined with any other method than MTR that in itself would be good enough reason to never mine another lump.
   The coal corporations and SS neocons are going to push the stuff and I don't care if this statement tic's a few of them off.
   I have witnessed the brown shirt tactics of the coal corparations in East Kentucky for generations. The present administration has been goose stepping to the coal corporation marching band.  
   The scorched earth policy of this Mountain Top Removal blitzkrieg is devistating the fatherland down here in East Ky.
   
   The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.

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   amazingdrx Posted 11:10 pm
   25 Feb 2008

   Big lieInteresting history of the tactic.  
   I guess it really goes back to the sophists though.  I bet Canis knows when it first appeared on the scene.
   Repitition a valid substitue for facts?  It would seem so.  Sound bite media produces mass delusion by reptition.
   Read all about it!  Witness the case of the picture of Barack circulating all over the media this morning.  In traditional african garb.
   And the email spam/limboob big lie.  Barack would not put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance.  This was touted as fact (nearly unchallenged) by a wing nut congressman on the most recent  Bill Mahr show.
   These are the kinds of lies that will all be  combined into a big lie to beat Barack in the general election.  Media will parrot this propaganda constantly, while at the same time, decrying it as lying.  
   At least some in the media are.  The more "fair and balanced" talking heads are letting "you decide".  This is how reframing works, you use lies to move the center over.  We report, both sides, lies and fact, and you decide.
   So maybe the decision of the chronically soundbite informed comes down in the middle?  
   This is too important to take a chance with, decry the talking heads, Barack's creibility has been damaged by these questions about his loyalty.  Will that make him look weak in the eyes of the terrorists?
   In this time of terrorism will the american people take that chance?  
   Let's check the polls.
   Rove is salivating over this prospect. He is the mother of all modern big liars.  Tricky Dick Nixon is the grandmother.
   
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