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Politicians and the art of deception 7

Compare this video (posted by David) of Hillary squirming while she tells a whopper with the video below of McCain being brutally honest (via a comment by greyflcn in same post). Refreshing. We human beings are masters of deception, and of detection of said deception -- the result of an evolutionary arms race:

Update: I didn't realize that this is old footage before his flip flop.

Update: Compare his demeanor in the above clip to his demeanor in the clip below where he is ah, not being so refreshingly honest:

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  1. David Roberts's avatar

    David Roberts Posted 8:18 am
    08 Nov 2007

    Yeah, too bad ...... he sold out since then. Guess telling people what they don't want to hear didn't work out very well.

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  2. rwhiten1 Posted 10:30 am
    08 Nov 2007

    Its a popularity contestFunny how the candidates who come out with clear positions on the issues are always the ones at the bottom of the pile.  Why is it that the highest polling candidates are always the ones that hem and haw the most or are outright owned by special interests (ahem, Bush, ahem).  
    Even though McCain has fip flopped on the issue, you have to admire his moxy for coming out against Ethanol subsidies IN Iowa.  That takes some gumption.
  3. kayser Posted 10:50 am
    08 Nov 2007

    Awesome videoIf there's one thing you can say about John McCain, it's that he speaks his mind eight years ago.
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    Biodiversivist Posted 12:11 pm
    08 Nov 2007

    Nice edit job there, editorMy bad. I thought I was looking at footage of McCain flip flopping on his flip flop. How naive of me. My cynicism remains intact. Look at his demeanor, his body language, listen to his tone of voice. The man is telling the truth. Now look at this more recent video of him flip flopping (from an earlier post on the blog). He is every bit as uncomfortable as Hillary. My post wasn't meant to endorse McCain, but to point out that deception is the domain of politicians and even they can't hide every clue, unless one is also a psychopath. Not that politicians have any choice given the system. What are the odds that the winner will flip flop one last time, pissing away their chance at reelection four years later?


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    amazingdrx Posted 5:32 pm
    08 Nov 2007

    Liar, liar!Lies and white lightnin', neehaaaww!!  
    Putin and Chavez, yeah that's the ticket.  THEY made me support ethanol.  I didn't want to do it.  I'd rather have nukes.
    McCain should just say, "Look (don't you just love the overuse of this moronic phrase), I support ethanol now that I'm campaigning in Iowa.  Don't tell anyone from Iowa, but if I'm elected I will stop subsidies for ethanol."
    Luckily Hillary is going to win anyway, so she doesn't have to explain herself.
    What a pathetic way to pursue an energy policy.  But it probably beats "darth cheney's secret white house energy industry meeting" plan.

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  6. justlou Posted 9:28 pm
    08 Nov 2007

    Just Pulling a McCainand revealing that he is the real Republican in the Republican primary.  Weasel was, weasel is.  McCain is still "tied up" in his mind and has two straight talk expresses. (jeez, I could probably be raking in a couple hundred grand if I was a consultant for Rudy or Mitt)  
  7. Biodiversivist's avatar

    Biodiversivist Posted 12:28 am
    09 Nov 2007

    The guy is flopping around like a tuna on a hookLast Thursday, Dave puts up a post where McCain says in August that he is for ethanol subsidies and yesterday, Ron Steenblik finds an article where just two days ago McCain says he's against them again.
    Go to youtube and type "McCain flip flop" into the search bar ...hilarious. Here's Olberman going down the list but he missed his flip flop on immigration.

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