Innovator patents floating wind turbine 5

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   Will Posted 12:53 pm
   10 Dec 2007

   wheeewind power brings me joy

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   stopgreenpath Posted 4:15 am
   11 Dec 2007

   not NIMBYsplease, stop with the NIMBY propaganda.  90% of the people who object to being yanked forcibly from their homes, or to seeing wilderness or their private property destroyed DERIVE NO BENEFIT AT ALL from the power being generated.  
   the NIMBYs are the gluttonous, McMansion jerkoffs in cities like LA who demand unlimited cheap power for their 6,800 square foot houses and their 52 inch TVs and sub-zero fridges, no matter how much habitat is destroyed, or how many rural lives are permanently ruined.
   sorry, people need to pay the real cost of their consumption, whether it's greenhouse gases, child sweatshop labor, poisoning farmworkers and watersheds, smog, mining deaths or otherwise.  the fact that these costs are socialized while the benefits are privatized is the problem.
   http://www.stopgreenpath.com

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   Owlbander Posted 4:52 am
   11 Dec 2007

   Yeah, but at night?  While the MARS system may be an improvement over arrays of turbine blades wider than a jetliner's wingspan, to dismiss bird collision risks by saying "birds can see it" overlooks the fact that most bird migration - and thus most collisions with turbines, communication towers and other objects - occurs at night, when birds can't see much of anything. The units also will have to be lighted to prevent aircraft collisions, and we know such lights disorient and attract  migrant birds, especially in fog, mist or rain.
     As for bats sensing them - bats can sense conventional turbines, as well, but they are nevertheless drawn to them in large numbers, and have been killed by the thousands at sites in West Virginia and Pennsylvania.
     Until the wind industry undertakes rigorous, peer-reviewed studies of bird and bat mortality - something they've resisted thus far - I'm inclined to view such (ahem) airy dismissals with a grain of salt.

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   Wolverine Posted 6:10 am
   11 Dec 2007

   Speaking For The Non-Humans ...we get absolutely no benefit at all from electricity generation, but pay virtually all of the environmental costs.  So we strongly object to any wind generators in any natural areas.  Please put them where the generated electricity is being used, not in our homes.  Thank you.

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   AnthonyHenrySmith Posted 7:17 am
   11 Dec 2007

   A bad rap from NIMBY folk and bird advocates?I wonder why you say:
   
   "Traditional wind turbines have gotten a bad rap from NIMBY folk and bird advocates,..."
   This didn't appear in the New York Times article and I wonder why you bring it in here. If the remark is your own opinion, you need to be informed that it's untrue.
   If you can demonstrate it is true,it could be the interesting subject of a separate article.

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