Ocean temperture levels indicate planet has kept warming since 1998 10

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   Delay And Deny Posted 11:32 am
   21 Aug 2008

   What Does This Have To Do With CO2?
   
   And why, pray tell, would the ocean have a different relationship to CO2 than air?
   Or, is there no relationship at all ... with Co2...
   
   

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   Tasermons Partner Posted 2:48 pm
   21 Aug 2008

   Jabailo makes my day, I love his funnies! : )And why, pray tell, would the ocean have a different relationship to CO2 than air?
   You're kiddin', right?
   Why the heck do ya think we're in such a fuss 'bout ocean acidification?
   Short answer (don't worry, you'll eventually understand fully when they teach it to ya by the time you're in middle school):  Oceans have a different chemical makeup than air (ya know, it's that H2O stuff), so it reacts differently to certain substances and elements than air does because of it's unique properties (bein' made of water and all).
   For instance, ever notice how carbonated beverages can quench your thirst (despite bein' unhealthy for ya), while carbonated air just doesn't seem to do the trick?

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   bbutler Posted 11:34 pm
   21 Aug 2008

   Why are we ignoring the earth's coreDon't the changes in condition/temperature of the earth's core, mantle etc. have more effect on the earth's temperature than the sun? -especially the effect on the oceans. Why does no one seem to consider this as a significant factor in what seems to be a rather questionable debate called global warming?

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   archigeek Posted 1:48 am
   22 Aug 2008

   Oh, good grief...^^^Could someone please explain to bb. My head just exploded.
   
   The mellotron is your friend.

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   Kit Stolz Posted 3:20 am
   22 Aug 2008

   Scripps on ocean warmingAfter a massive ten-year study organized by Scripps Institution of Oceanography, Tim Barnett put a number on the amount of warming that is stored in the oceans of our planet -- almost 90%. This little-appreciated fact goes a long ways towards explaining thermal inertia. To put it less scientifically, because it takes a long time to heat the largest thing on earth (the Pacific Ocean) skeptics have time to come up with all sorts of wacky theories to attempt to explain away the relatively simple process of global heating. But there's simply no doubt about it: the planet is heating up, and the portents are ominous.
   http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2005/0217warmingwarning ...

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   Paleocon Posted 8:56 am
   23 Aug 2008

   Any increase in ocean temps...would be the result of conditions that pre-date industrialization.
   Warmer oceans TODAY indicate NOTHING about man's effect on climate.
   AGW Fundamentalists can have faith in whatever they like, of course.
   
   "...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective

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   Paleocon Posted 9:03 am
   23 Aug 2008

   In other words...archigeek is as interested in having that kind of discussion with you as Tom Cruise is likely to become a Psychiatrist any time soon.
   Anything that questions his faith makes his chi <sic> ache.
   Of course Earth's climate is complex. We don't even know why the magnetic poles shift. All of these scientific questions are to complex for AGW Fundamentalists. They just want to believe in simple tenets of faith.
   Western man bad. Western man kill planet. Bad man. Bad man kill.
   Hemp good. Karl Marx good. Tax bad man.
   
   "...a 90 percent chance that the US has contributed .2 degrees F of temperature increase in the last 50 years..." The IPCC Consensus in perspective

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   bbutler Posted 11:37 pm
   03 Sep 2008

   Asking again: Let's consider the earth's coreI'm only a pretend physicist, but I know that compared to the mass of the earth and its core, mantle, etc. the oceans are a tiny, tiny part of the planet. The oceans are no more significant to the body of the earth than an apple skin is to a 10" diameter apple. If anything is happening at the core, gravitational collapse, (thereby heating the core even more, right?), it seems to me that this could influence the surface temperature more than anything that 6,000,000,000 people could even think about doing.
   Does anyone know why there isn't any talk about this INTERNAL form of possible heating? I assume that there's a good reason.
   
   

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   bbutler Posted 11:45 pm
   03 Sep 2008

   Hi, your comments sound intelligently thought outI don't understand something you said: "...the amount of global warming stored in the oceans...". I'm not trying to contradict, I'm trying to understand. I can see how 'warmth' is stored somewhere, but it is not clear to me how 'warming' could be stored somewhere.
   Sorry about the nitpick, but if you are stating that there is more WARMTH stored in the oceans, I would ask, "Isn't there incomparably more warmth stored in the interior of the eath, than in the relatively ultra-thin skin of its oceans?"
   And if this is so, it seems to me that the effect on the oceans that a tiny temperature change in the earth's core could have, would dwarf the effect that anything but the sun going nova would have.
   Again, I'm not arguing with you, but trying to understand with you.

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    GlobalWarmingInc Posted 6:56 am
    22 Sep 2008

    Finally some reason here...It's been said by a few scientists who think that AGW is a huge scam (like I do) -and the reason all these studies are out is because the younger scientists know that in order to get funding, all you have to do is attach Global WarmingTM to your study, and BAM, you're funded. Meanwhile the peer checks and rechecks are pretty much scrapped in order to get these results out fast. So there goes the "science" in these so-called studies.
    Any warming we are seeing now is part of a 1500yr cycle that's been going on for millions of years.
    I live in an arid desert climate, yet I can go out anywhere there is shale and find fossils of fern leaves, shells and prehistoric fish. Hmm, seems like it's been warm way before we were here. Maybe the dinosaurs were heavy polluters, with their big, huge dino-cars.

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