Greed got us into this mess

Can greed get us out? 5

Billionaire Richard Branson will announce today in London a prize of $25 million to the inventor of a device that effectively reduces greenhouse gas concentrations. Although the participants are under a media embargo, American climatologist James Hansen -- who will serve as a judge of the potential inventions, along with English scientist James Lovelock and Australian author Tim Flannery -- did discuss the topic of geoengineering a solution to global warming this week in front of a large crowd at U.C. Santa Barbara, as part of a lecture he gave on the dangers of human-caused climate change.

Hansen was asked what he thought about a U.S. government suggestion (PDF) that the IPCC should look into engineering to "modify solar radiance," if attempts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions fail. Hansen said that this was a reference to an idea floated last year by an atmospheric chemist named Paul Crutzen. Crutzen won the Nobel Prize in l995 for his work on ozone depletion, and proposed to blanket the earth with sulphur particles, to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the atmosphere. Hansen said:

I think Paul was trying to wake people up. These schemes have disadvantages; they're very expensive, and so maybe he was doing a public service, but I think obviously the first thing we should be doing is trying to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

In fact, when Crutzen spoke about this idea last year, he commented:

Importantly, its possibility should not be used to justify inadequate climate policies, but merely to create a possibility to combat potentially drastic climate heating. The very best would be if emissions of the greenhouse gases could be reduced. Currently, this looks like a pious wish.

Estimates are that to blanket the earth with sulphur particles would cost in the range of $25-50 billion for a two-year stretch. Another noteworthy scientist at the lecture, Ralph Keeling of Scripps Institution of Oceanography, had doubts about the idea, pointing out that:

It's very hard to be sure we're not doing tremendous harm, which would be more intentional than what we're doing with greenhouse gases.

The two also discussed another scheme by a Columbia physicist named Klaus Lackner to use what some call "synthetic trees" to reduce the concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere. In theory, 250,000 such devices could remove the 22 billion tons of carbon dioxide deposited in the air annually.

Hansen did say that two weeks ago he got the call about the prize from Branson. With a smile, he added:

Maybe that will encourage someone to come up with a solution to remove these gases, but I still say it would be easier not to put them there in the first place.

Hmmm. Pardon my skepticism, but isn't $25 million how much the U.S. government offered for the capture of Osama Bin Laden?

Advertisement
Advertisement
  1. sunflower's avatar

    sunflower Posted 4:07 am
    09 Feb 2007

    ObL offset all usa airplane travel for four days
  2. Nucbuddy Posted 4:24 am
    09 Feb 2007

    The CO2-extraction device already existsKit Stolz wrote: Billionaire Richard Branson has just announced a prize of $25 million to the inventor of a device that effectively reduces greenhouse gas concentrations.
    Done:

    greencarcongress.com/2006/09/study_synthetic.html
    You can pull CO2 from the atmosphere by chemical means, for example:
    adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002AGUSMGC31A..03D
    Blueskying here:
    Nuke power to suck CO2 from the atmosphere, pull H2 from water, run reverse water-gas shift reaction to make syngas and from there FT reaction to produce artificial liquid fuels.
  3. GRLCowan's avatar

    GRLCowan Posted 4:30 am
    09 Feb 2007

    Lackner, not Lachner. The trees are alkali flats... and what determines whether they can do the job is their surface area, not their number. That area needs to be somewhat less than 1 square metre to keep up with one person with a Western-style fossil fuel habit, maybe 2 m^2 to undo his past damage.
    A recent story in these pages about biodiesel plantation that was 100 miles wide gives the scale of the CO2 capture area that will be required if my boron cars don't catch on soon enough and the far East instead starts driving several billion of the largest oil-burners they can afford. (But CO2 can be captured anywhere on the earth's land or sea surface; it doesn't need sunny tropical square myriametres.)
    --- G. R. L. Cowan, former hydrogen fan

    Oxygen expands around B fire, car goes
  4. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 5:00 am
    09 Feb 2007

    They All Laughed At Me At the Academy!!!

    I invented a CO2 reducer.
    It's called a "fern".
    I'm patenting it right now.

    The Texeme Construct offers international text memetics construction and textcasting services.
  5. Pandu Posted 5:13 am
    09 Feb 2007

    Sunflowergets the prize for looking on the bright side.

Add a Comment

You are not logged in. Thus, you cannot post a comment. If you have an account, log in. If you don't have an account, well, by all means go make one! Meet you back here in five.

Hello, Visitor!    Why not register?

Advertisement