GOP wants 100 new nukes by 2030 9

In Finland, around the globe, and in every state, the nuclear industry makes people sing the same old song:  “What do you get when you buy a nuke?  You get a lot of delays and rate increases….

This year, authorities permitted Florida Power & Light to start charging millions of customers several dollars a month to finance four new reactors. Customers of Georgia Power, a subsidiary of the Southern Co., will pay on average $1.30 a month more in 2011, rising to $9.10 by 2017, to help pay for two reactors expected to go online in 2016 or later.

As an aside, if Public Utility Commissions allowed on-bill financing of energy efficiency, which is under half the cost of any new power generation — and 5 times cheaper than new nukes — we could stop electricity demand growth in this country for two decades while lowering consumer electric bills by tens of billions of dollars a year (see “Energy efficiency is THE core climate solution, Part 1: The biggest low-carbon resource by far” and “Part 3:  The only cheap power left“).

Back to the delays and high cost of new nukes.  It isn’t just this country (see “Turkey’s only bidder for first nuclear plant offers a price of 21 cents per kilowatt-hour“), and, of course, Finland — see my February post, “Nuclear meltdown in Finland” and today’s remarkable New York Times story (excerpted above):

In Finland, Nuclear Renaissance Runs Into Trouble

As the Obama administration tries to steer America toward cleaner sources of energy, it would do well to consider the cautionary tale of this new-generation nuclear reactor site.

The massive power plant under construction on muddy terrain on this Finnish island was supposed to be the showpiece of a nuclear renaissance. The most powerful reactor ever built, its modular design was supposed to make it faster and cheaper to build. And it was supposed to be safer, too.

But things have not gone as planned.

After four years of construction and thousands of defects and deficiencies, the reactor’s 3 billion euro price tag, about $4.2 billion, has climbed at least 50 percent. And while the reactor was originally meant to be completed this summer, Areva, the French company building it, and the utility that ordered it, are no longer willing to make certain predictions on when it will go online.

What’s laughable is that the Republican Party, in a weekly radio address last month (video and transcript here), has now made nuclear power a centerpiece of their “clean energy” strategy, with Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN) absurdly claiming:

When Republicans say, build 100 new nuclear power plants during the next twenty years, Democrats say, no place to put the used nuclear fuel….  We say, keep prices down.

And he did that with a straight face!

When conservatives say build 100 new nukes in 20 years, I don’t even consider the waste issue among the first three things I’d bring up in responding to an idea guaranteed to raise everyone’s rates 25% or more, sacrifice safety for speed of construction — with taxpayers on the hook to cover the cost of any major nuclear disaster — and require taxpayers to take on nearly a trillion dollars of risk (see “Exclusive analysis, Part 1:  The staggering cost of new nuclear power“ and “How did $50B high-risk, job-killing nuclear loans get in the stimulus?  Fraudulent budget gimmickry“).

As the chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, Jon Wellinghoff,  said recently of new coal and nuclear plants, “We may not need any, ever.” We simply have too many superior lower cost clean energy alternatives.

And that’s why the NYT energy and environmental blog poses the question today: Is the Nuclear ‘Renaissance’ Fizzling?

Nuclear power may be making a comeback, but long-standing problems with the technology still could lead to canceled orders and renewed public opposition.

One problem is what to do with the highly dangerous waste produced by reactors. Currently waste is stored above ground in pools of water or in vast dry casks, but neither of those methods is regarded as adequate over the long-term.

The other problem is timing.  We need to reverse our greenhouse gas emissions trend immediately, whereas nukes — notwithstanding GOP fantasies — are not a near-term strategy.

And even if stars do come into alignment for nuclear, it still could take some time for it to play a significant role in lowering greenhouse gas levels, according to Paul L. Joskow, a professor or economics and management at M.I.T. and the president of the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, a philanthropic organization supporting science and technology.

Mr. Joskow co-authored an influential report on the future of nuclear power in 2003.

“If nuclear is going to be a large wedge in the overall portfolio of technologies cutting greenhouse gases, then it’s going to be a post-2025 wedge,” Mr. Joskow said in a telephone interview last week. “In the near term, we are going to be using more energy efficiency measures, renewable sources and even cleaner burning natural gas to meet our climate goals,” he said.

And Joskow, for those who follow the energy issue closely, is not progressive and historically has not been an advocate for efficiency — and yet even he understands nukes are at best a medium-term strategy.

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Joseph Romm is the editor of Climate Progress and a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress.

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  1. GreyFlcn Posted 2:33 pm
    29 May 2009

    Actually more specific on the details of what they want.  (Rather than the results of what they promise)Or said another way, they want roughly 56 billion dollars worth of new loan guaruntees.
    For another 12 power plants. "Alexander said he would increase federal loan guarantees now being
    offered for the first four reactors to as many as 12 to "jump start"
    the nuclear revival."http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-alexander-nuclear-power,1,6445886.story 
  2. enviroperk Posted 8:56 pm
    29 May 2009

    Though entertaining reading, I fail to see how this writer's effort makes any progress. Why waste the energy and the digital ink? In case you haven't heard about the results of the last election -- the GOP alone has Zero chance of passing ANYTHING.I noticed the authors connection to ClimateProgress, wouldn't we make more "climate progress" by suggesting solutions that can be implemented today, by individuals, to conserve and improve our energy efficiencies, rather than ranting about the ravings of a powerless GOP?There is truly a power is focusing a coherent message of specific suggestions we can do today to help solve the problem, rather than turning off 38% of the population that will off-hand dismiss your valid arguments as partisan retoric.A few examples of real progress we individuals can make are areas like: clothes drying, water heating, air conditioning, and driving (in reverse order in my clime ) these are high-waste areas we should be dealing with that can change our energy (and CO2) footprint TODAY.As far as nuclear energy, the most coherent and irrefutable argument is made by the well respected A.B Lovins and  RMI. This consultantancy to power companies and corporations has put together a  financial and scientific basis against nuclear power that has withstood every challenge since it was first published.No, the GOP is apparently not aware of this -- not big news that. Though If I were paid by the word i could make a long, progress-free article about the financial and engineering ignorance of the GOP.Cliffnotes version: Lets conserve our message-energy and work on things that make a difference, not divisive political brinkmanship. . 
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    Delay And Deny Posted 8:58 am
    30 May 2009

    If you want to disparage nuclear fission as a source of electricity, then you must address France, which gets 80 percent of its power from nukes.   In addition, electricity is the 4th largest export of the French (Italy is their largest customer).You cannot hold up European CO2 reductions as a model and then deny that they use nukes significantly.You cannot also deny that while President Obama has cut hydrogen research to the bone, at the request of Chu, the Europeans have increased funding for hydrogen to 1 billion plus! Side note:A fresh push for fuel cell cars
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/29/BAET17SV0U.DTLA dozen fuel cell cars are making their way from San Diego County to
    British Columbia on a road show tour, sponsored by the California Fuel
    Cell Partnership, a consortium of automakers, energy and technology
    companies and government agencies, all of which are trying to promote
    the use of fuel cells as a way to power cars.
    Fuel cell cars are neglected orphans of the voguish, go-go world of
    green vehicles, the darlings of which are hybrids such as the Toyota
    Prius and Honda Insight.
    Hybrids, of course, are not entirely green because they use that
    oft-denigrated dinosaur juice known as gasoline. Battery-powered, pure
    electric cars are the up-and-coming future of automobiles, some experts
    say.
    1. enviroperk Posted 9:29 am
      30 May 2009

      I guess Dr. Chu, with a Phd in Physics and a Nobel Prize in same, isn't aware of the Hydrogen and nuclear options? Maybe you should educate him on that.Or possibly, he is aware that the capital cost of building a nuclear power plant is the US now makes that option more expensive than other options. In addition, the cost of building nuclear plants here is rising 15% per year, with solar costs dropping on an annual basis. The cost of building a Nuc plant in Iran, $1 billion. Cost in the US for one of the same size? Nobody really knows, but the guess is $4.5 billion (based on recent proposals for new plants by Entergy Nuclear)As for hydrogen fuel cell cars, maybe Dr. Chu knows about this.  
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        Delay And Deny Posted 4:55 pm
        30 May 2009

        One thing Chu would certainly know is how to use a calendar, whereas in your case the numbers you present are sadly out of date.  
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    engrjim Posted 9:30 am
    30 May 2009

    Electrical power must be provided in exactly the amount required at all times.  Wind and solar power can do that if huge capability for storing energy is developed.  In order to produce the energy to be stored and that to be used immediately, power generating and storage capacity of considerably more than the peak load requirements will be needed - in the case of solar energy, that amounts to two or three times as much on the good winter days.  If you talk about storms, the generation and storage requirements are greatly increased.  A smart grid fix for equalizing power is just a Ponzi scheme. The cost per watt of solar or wind power, including the batteries and all the extra generating capacity, is far higher than the cost per watt of nuclear generated power.    
    1. enviroperk Posted 9:42 am
      30 May 2009

      For an engineer, this may be interesting reading on the real cost of Nuclear compared to other options. True, the fuel cost can't be beat.http://www.rmi.org/images/PDFs/Energy/E08-01_AmbioNucIllusion.pdf
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        engrjim Posted 3:59 pm
        31 May 2009

        These links go deeper into the subject of comparative pricing without a lot of hyperbole. http://www.netl.doe.gov/energy-analyses/pubs/Final Report-Market Analysis of Emerging Electric Energy Sto.pdf
        http://www.solarbuzz.com/DistributedGeneration.htm
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      Delay And Deny Posted 4:58 pm
      30 May 2009

      Except in the case where the solar and wind are used to transform water into hydrogen. Such as here:http://www.starbulletin.com/business/20090526_Hickam_solar_project_will_power_hydrogen_plant_and_fueling_station.html Hickam Air Force Base has completed a $1.1 million
      solar array project that will now power its hydrogen plant and fueling
      station -- a first of its kind for the Air Force and Hawaii.
      The
      146-kilowatt system made up of 810 solar modules is enough to power
      about 30 standard homes. The solar photovoltaic system was gradually
      turned on Friday to fuel the base's hydrogen plant with the renewable
      energy.
      It is the first time that a hydrogen plant has been powered with a solar electric system in Hawaii. The base's $1.5 million hydrogen station was completed in November 2006. 

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