Global warring

Are we a nation permanently at war? 5

In his interview with Grist, Dennis Kucinich urged us all to recognize the connection between global warming and global warring.

In that spirit, I thought I'd pass along an astute observation from Glenn Greenwald, who on matters of media and war/terrorism is without peer. About this quote from Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-Tenn.), a conservative member of the DLC:

Bill Clinton ordered our troops and worked with NATO in Bosnia. That's the kind of pro-war Democrat that we ought to be: the war that we fight wisely, the ones that we engage in wisely.

Greenwald says this:

This is the most extraordinary aspect of our political culture. Rep. Davis' assumption is that we are going to be fighting a series of "wars." That is just a given. And the only question is whether we will fight our wars "wisely" or unwisely. We are a nation more or less permanently at war, and we really do not debate whether that should be the case. Enforced Beltway orthodoxy requires that this is a given and anyone who challenges that premise will be deemed extremist and insane (see e.g., Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, "paleoconservatives," the "anti-war left", "isolationists," etc.).

The Grand Beltway Consensus, one that encompasses both parties, is that War is how we rule the world. The only debates allowed are how many we should fight, where we should fight them, and how "wisely" we prosecute them. And the principal reason that we don't really debate the fact that we are a Nation permanently at war is because such a tiny percentage of our population -- and an even tinier percentage of our Beltway opinion-making elite -- actually bears the burdens of those wars (at least directly).

(via Jim Henley)

David Roberts is staff writer for Grist. You can follow his Twitter feed at twitter.com/drgrist.

Advertisement
Advertisement
  1. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 3:31 am
    02 Aug 2007

    Examine absense of war

    Pundits decry our wars...but they rarely question or hypothesize he result if we did not fight.

    John Bailo


    Supratext:
  2. justlou Posted 3:49 am
    02 Aug 2007

    The Seeds of WarThe seeds of future wars are being planted while we fight our current wars.  
    Kucinich could have related warring with growth, but that would be getting too close for comfort with way too many interests in this country.  
    He could have also related warring with class warfare in the US.  There are elite interests in this country that have an interest in keeping the lower classes engaged in fighting common enemies rather than in fighting the elites themselves.  But in the case of global warming there are big interests striving to keep it from becoming an identified common enemy.  Keeping the focus on wars is one means of achieving that by diverting precious capital and resources to the war effort.
  3. Jon Rynn's avatar

    Jon Rynn Posted 4:39 am
    02 Aug 2007

    nowarnowarming.orgis the website for a direct action in October that will link the two concepts
  4. Colin Wright Posted 6:59 am
    02 Aug 2007

    Making the world safe for American corporations...I think it's important to point out that we don't just fight wars for the sake of fighting them. Usually there is an economic motive (making the world safe for the investment of capital, etc.).
    Here's a recent quote of Chomsky from an interview at citylights.com, the bombing of Serbia was the cause, not the consequence, of the ethnic cleansing, and the anticipated cause, and we learn from the highest level of the Clinton administration that the bombing was not undertaken out of concern for the plight of Kosovar Albanians but because Serbia was not carrying out the socio-economic reforms demanded by the Clinton administration.
    Of course, certain administrations are more war-like than others! Or perhaps as American economic dominance falters, we will see more of the "hidden fist" at work.For globalism to work, America can't be afraid to act like the almighty super power it is. The hidden hand of the market will never work without the hidden fist. McDonalds cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas. The hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley is called the US army,

    navy, airforce.   Thomas Friedman in the NY Times
    Great interview with Kucinich!
  5. Jon Rynn's avatar

    Jon Rynn Posted 7:30 am
    02 Aug 2007

    Kucinich does a nice job with war and warmingWe need to see the connection between global warring and global warming, and it's oil. Sustainability is the path to peace. And I'm the only true peace candidate in this election. So peace means being in harmony with nature. If you're in harmony with nature, you don't exploit nature. You don't ruin the land, you don't extract the oil, you don't take the coal out of the earth.
    Nice way to try and link peace with the planet and peace with other nations.  I don't think his "greenness" comes through in the debates as well as it did in the interview -- but what can you do in 90 seconds?

Add a Comment

You are not logged in. Thus, you cannot post a comment. If you have an account, log in. If you don't have an account, well, by all means go make one! Meet you back here in five.

Hello, Visitor!    Why not register?

Advertisement