Global warming divides the GOP presidential field

Rudy Giuliani’s stance on climate and energy 4

Joseph Romm is the editor of Climate Progress and a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress.

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  1. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 4:40 am
    18 Oct 2007

    No Coal

    Rudy has to get off the coal bandwagon.  It's a dead horse already as utilities themselves are scrapping plans left and right for coal plants.
    This is a case where, yes, a single answer suffices: More nukes.
    France did it. 80%
    We can do it.

    John Bailo


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  2. plum Posted 6:16 am
    18 Oct 2007

    Newsroom politics"[C]oal, which is considered a major contributor to global warming"...
    What's the bet there's some newsroom politics playing a part here? As a former copy editor, I know that stories can go through several eyes before seeing print. And when the deadline's rushing at you and you've got a denialist on the floor who's kicking up a fuss and won't back down, inserting weasel phrases like "which is considered" is part of the day-to-day negotiations you have to live with in the newsroom. Nobody likes it.
  3. nycowboy Posted 5:57 am
    19 Oct 2007

    No to NukesThere are some people who do believe

    strongly in nuclear power -- and that if we turn to that --

    we can continue to live our lives as we currently do without

    change. They note the lack of smoke stacks on nuclear

    plants, and argue that because there are no direct emissions

    that it must be a clean fuel without carbon dioxide.
    In contrast, my vision is to within the next two decades to

    re-power all fossil fuel power plants and use renewable

    sources, new pump storage, and increased conservation to

    meet our growing energy demands and reduce carbon emissions.

    Simply replacing an existing oil or coal plant with a more

    modern oil or coal plant of the same size, with reduce

    carbon dioxide emissions significantly (10% or more), as we

    can burn oil or coal more efficiently and cleaner. Reducing

    acid rain and smog-producing chemicals in many ways is even

    more important then global warming -- acid rain kills trees,

    defiles buildings, and smog kills people now.
    Clean coal is another technology worth investing in,

    particularly to replace older plants. Coal will always be a

    major emitter of carbon dioxide and it's extraction from the

    landscape will lead to blight and massive piles of coal ash.

    But we can burn and process it in the right way. Replacing

    old coal plants that are terribly dirty with new plants that

    consume a similar amount of coal will cut carbon emissions

    up to 20% and hazardous ones far more compared to plants

    built in the 1960s and 1970s. Despite what our President may

    say -- it's not an ideal technology, but for replacing our

    existing infrastructure it's an much needed upgrade.
    Then there is renewable sources and pump storage -- both go

    hand and hand. There is no question that we need more pump

    storage now, as our dirtiest and most inefficient plants

    across the nation often serve the purpose of providing extra

    power in a crunch (new plants are 75%-80% efficient at

    stored energy).  There are only 25 pump storage plants in

    our country, but there is no reason why we could we build 3

    or 4 times that number with minimal impact. Siting is an

    issue, as witnessed by the proposed 2-gigawatt Storm King

    Pump Storage. That was a great project, that would have done

    much to help reduce pollution in New York City and cut

    carbon emissions, but it would have been very ugly, and

    dumping turbid water directly in the Hudson would have put

    the river's fisheries at risk.
    Renewables tend to be on-off sources that are less then

    reliable. But we need far more of them, combined with pump

    storage to store electricity based on demand. There is also

    a need for new power lines to move power efficiently across

    our country to places that need it. That's why I've been a

    strong supporter of the NYRI, although I believe that parts

    need to be re-routed to address community concerns. New York

    City needs more electricity, and we have an excess of it in

    CNY/WNY especially with new wind capacity and other sources

    coming online. Likewise, we need a government that can get

    renewable energy projects like Wind Farms sited in

    reasonable places, without NIMBYs being able to derail it.

    The fact that Vermont's moron for a governor, carpet-bagger

    Jim Douglas has been so successful at derailing renewable

    energy in that state is evidence of a need for stronger

    sitting laws on the national and state levels.
  4. Carbon Coalition Posted 6:15 am
    22 Oct 2007

    Big News from Huckabee"I support cap and trade of carbon emissions and I was disappointed in the senate for rejecting a carbon counting system to measure the sources of emissions because that would have been the first and the most important step to implementing a true cap and trade."  -Mike Huckabee, Manchester NH, October 13.
    This is no small step within the GOP field.
    More about climate change & the NH Primary at http://www.carboncoalition.org/blog

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