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   wallrock Posted 3:28 am
   12 Aug 2005

   excellent pieceFranzen's article is truly captivating.  It alternates between mirth and depression, and I found real parallels between his descriptions of birding and its greater connotations and my personal philosophy.  I think most people on this site would really connect to this piece.  Plus, it will help explain to all the non-birders out there (like myself) why birders act so weird sometimes.

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   Moysh Posted 6:55 am
   30 Aug 2005

   Franzen piece: the other book on birdwatchingI am sitting here trying to order the book Franzen mentions and don't have that New Yorker to hand.
   If anyone is reading who has that issue,(last week? )please send it.

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   jenniferbourdier Posted 8:44 am
   30 Aug 2005

   depressionthe guy would be an even better writer if he stopped eating wheat/cereals and all milk products.  he can eat rice, buckwheat and sesame and everything else (natural) under the sun.  and he should not cook his food higher than 212F.
   but the real point is that cereals other than the three mentioned and animal milk are proven to cause depression (and 91 other modern diseases, but we won't go into that here.  name a disease, i'll tell you if it's on the list).
   this cure for depression is much more green than taking prozac.

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   bhurley Posted 12:29 am
   31 Aug 2005

   Oh really?cereals other than the three mentioned and animal milk are proven to cause depression
   Proven by whom? Kind of hard to jibe this claim with the millions upon millions of people who've eaten wheat and drunk milk all their lives and have never suffered from depression, myself included. The reported rate of depressive disorders in the United States is currently about 6 percent of the population, according to the latest stats I've seen. Even if we assume that the actual (versus reported rate) is two or three times that high, it still doesn't correlate with the prevalence of wheat and animal milk in the diet. I don't know where to find the stats on that, but I'd wager that more than 95 percent of Americans eat wheat products regularly and at least 70 percent drink animal milk on a regular basis. But are 80-90 percent of Americans depressed? I don't think so.

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   jenniferbourdier Posted 10:45 pm
   31 Aug 2005

   have you heard of lactose/glucose intolerance?lactose and glucose intolerance are the canaries in the milk and wheat mine shaft.  milk and wheat (and most other cereals including corn) are toxic and the proof is all over.  milk is made for baby cows so that they grow dumb and fat.  wheat has been modified and manipulated to such an extent that it has 21 chromosone pairs which are un-concassable by our enzymes.  these foods are not human, they are not fit for consumption.  
   check out the site http://www.seignalet.com if you're willing to keep an open mind, otherwise, go on eating like the rest of the herd.  but don't call me when you get sick.

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