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What’s your secret eco-sin? 84
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jmcstras Posted 3:19 am
19 Apr 2005
Jeff
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praktike Posted 4:00 am
19 Apr 2005
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celenac Posted 4:10 am
19 Apr 2005
Treat the earth well, it was not given to you by your parents. It was loaned to you by your children
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seg420 Posted 4:11 am
19 Apr 2005
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eguertin Posted 4:19 am
19 Apr 2005
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MesoM Posted 4:57 am
19 Apr 2005
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FeliciaIChavez Posted 5:00 am
19 Apr 2005
Felicia Chavez
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Bobbi Katsanis Posted 5:06 am
19 Apr 2005
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Slash Posted 5:27 am
19 Apr 2005
Re: this person:
>I throw away used computer parts instead of
>waiting for the computer recycling day. The
>problem is that I have to drive to the recycling
>day and I don't have a car, so the dumpster is my
>easiest option.
That's what FreeCycle is for (http://freecycle.org/) - someone in your town (probably someone a lot like myself) would love those parts to put in the systems they're building from old junk at home! They'll even collect from you.
Your own and others' unwanted stuff offered for free at FreeCycle.org
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southernwatergirl Posted 5:46 am
19 Apr 2005
I am seriously addicted to stock cars that race with leaded gasoline
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agtpop Posted 5:50 am
19 Apr 2005
Ok, that felt good.
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kristress Posted 5:56 am
19 Apr 2005
Of course, there's also the factor that I love the old heap. I'll miss her when she's gone.
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odograph Posted 6:50 am
19 Apr 2005
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projectpeace Posted 7:05 am
19 Apr 2005
Cannabis is an essential and unique food resource, beyond the rightful jurisdiction of any court.
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projectpeace Posted 7:13 am
19 Apr 2005
Cannabis is an essential and unique food resource, beyond the rightful jurisdiction of any court.
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projectpeace Posted 7:15 am
19 Apr 2005
Cannabis is an essential and unique food resource, beyond the rightful jurisdiction of any court.
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accel2 Posted 7:30 am
19 Apr 2005
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thag Posted 7:36 am
19 Apr 2005
I also feel bad about driving my car so much, since I live in a rural area with no public transportation. I bike when I can, but it isn't always feasible. I do however take my recycling to the nearest center, 70 miles away, when I am driving there!!!
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tolley Posted 7:42 am
19 Apr 2005
weed
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malinjennings Posted 7:45 am
19 Apr 2005
Of course, being a good Catholic, it's a sure bet that the plastic bag will degrade long before my guilt will.
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mihan Posted 7:58 am
19 Apr 2005
second: my eco-sins... here are my top three: (1) i like meat (yum, bessie, bambi, and thumper), (2) i like to go places but don't like travelling, which means i fly a lot, and (3) i am addicted to fabric---i sew (using new fabric, sometimes evil fibers like rayon and non-recycled polartec) and dye (which uses huge quantities of water and not-so-friendly chemicals).
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melanie Posted 8:32 am
19 Apr 2005
1)I drink takeout coffee every weekday. The coffee at work sucks, and all my travel mugs make my coffee taste funny.
2)I run the water when I do dishes, and use lots of soap. The person above who also does that is my new best friend, because it's nice to know another water-waster.
3)I use plastic baggies. I have a million plastic containers, but sometimes I run out, or sometimes baggies work better. And then I throw them away. We get plastic grocery bags, too, but I recycle those - which is surely a step up from just tossing them, but a few steps down from buying those cute little hemp bags or whatever.
4)I drive a lot. I can't help it, I live in a rural area with no public transportation. And if I could afford it, I'd get a hybrid or biodiesel, but I can't so I have an awful gas-guzzling (but smallish) car.
5)I work at a job where I have to a)waste paper by printing out useless paperwork to be briefly filed before tossing (and I don't think we recycle, even though I've protested), and b)have to often ship things 3-day air, or next-day air.
There. I'm glad to get it out. I really do feel better now. Thanks, Grist - now, how many hail marys is that?
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metmerc Posted 8:38 am
19 Apr 2005
Also, like some others, I have a great composter, but can't always take my stuff out there. Sometimes, I just throw it away.
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kcrobison Posted 8:42 am
19 Apr 2005
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Green9 Posted 9:08 am
19 Apr 2005
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soma Posted 9:16 am
19 Apr 2005
I skiied alot this winter. It felt good.
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Cheryl Posted 9:35 am
19 Apr 2005
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rose Posted 9:36 am
19 Apr 2005
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jedfish Posted 9:38 am
19 Apr 2005
i play in a bluegrass band and my mandolin is made with old-growth hardwoods.
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lindsayloo92 Posted 9:43 am
19 Apr 2005
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catharsis Posted 9:45 am
19 Apr 2005
And, gulp, I'm a tele skier too - and yup, I love to ski the groomers!
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Kristin McGuire Posted 9:48 am
19 Apr 2005
I use harsh cleansers to scrub my bathroom -- baking soda and vinegar don't demolish nasty scum and mildew, and I'm not ready to paint my bathroom black!
I own too many pairs of cute, high-heeled, leather sandals. Bought new. At Nordstrom.
I drink Chai soy-lattes from Starbucks (mmm, no one tops their spicy-sweet blend ...)
Mea Culpa!
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Chris Schults Posted 10:12 am
19 Apr 2005
Ok, so now that I've confessed in this public forum, does this preclude me from getting an earful from the rest of the Grist staff? On the plus side, I do travel in a Honda Civic Hybrid and take the bus home.
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clarissa Posted 11:07 am
19 Apr 2005
but if it makes it any better and it doesn't I ALWAYS throw my butts in the trash.
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raspberryswirl Posted 11:23 am
19 Apr 2005
It felt really good to say that.
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ty5396 Posted 11:36 am
19 Apr 2005
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JenG Posted 11:58 am
19 Apr 2005
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Caleb Ewing Posted 1:12 pm
19 Apr 2005
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rich domingue Posted 3:09 pm
19 Apr 2005
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MikeCapone Posted 3:20 pm
19 Apr 2005
I'm ovo-lacto vegetarian, which means that I still eat eggs and dairy (but only if they are part of a recipe, not on their own, and as little as possible).
I take public transportation 85% of the time, and the rest I try to drive very conservatively (I coast a lot and keep steady acceleration), but I feel that I should be doing more by getting a bike. It's just too bad because my city isn't very bike-friendly. I do try to walk more, though.
I try to use as little electricity as possible around the house, yet I leave my computer on all the time. I feel less guilty because the CPU is crunching climateprediction.net data, and because here the electricity comes from hydro, but still, I shouldn't do that.
That's all I can think of for now.
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SUVs are squared-out minivans.
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lovebee Posted 7:53 pm
19 Apr 2005
When I lived in Canada I used to turn the shower off while shampooing and soaping and turn it on again only to rinse. I used to only clean with vinegar and baking soda. I recycled every scrap of paper, plastic and aluminum can. I started a recycling programme in the school I worked in and insisted on having them buy a double sided printer. I told anyone who would sit next to me how bad they were for not riding their bike and turning down their furnace (I wasn't very popular at parties). I drove a very old and well loved 83 Chevy Impala but kept it maintained and only drove when I had to and took my bike everywhere. There was more of that and I was absolutely miserable and lonely in my virtuous environmental masochism.
So, 6 years down the line I confess... I LOVE long showers, they ease the tension of having to wake up early in a cold stone cottage with draughty windows and an inefficient central heating system. I live in Scotland now where the damp encourages all sorts of beasties to grow in the crevices of my house so I use super-toxic mildew remover every now and again. When I'm tired from working and studying full-time I chuck my food tins in the rubbish bin and sometimes can't be arsed to walk across the room to put my carrot peels in the compost. And I buy bottled water from France because we have lead in our pipes. I don't have a car over here but I do have a bike which I often leave at home so I can take the bus in warmth and comfort with a good book, which I probably bought new from a multinational rather than an independent.
I still eat all organic whenever possible (although it's not so local and has tonnes of packaging) and wouldn't touch McRaunchies with a ten foot pole. I garden organically and encourage birds and insects on my patch. And I sneak all of my waste paper at work into the confidential bin because it is shredded and recycled.
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PeaceFrog Posted 10:23 pm
19 Apr 2005
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alaskaddict Posted 10:47 pm
19 Apr 2005
I just tell everyone who asks that they are synthetic!
SM
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jay Posted 11:06 pm
19 Apr 2005
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Storm Dragon Posted 12:58 am
20 Apr 2005
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alfogg Posted 1:13 am
20 Apr 2005
THere, that's all I can think of at the moment but I'm sure there's more....
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ml524 Posted 1:37 am
20 Apr 2005
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jrosef66 Posted 1:50 am
20 Apr 2005
I don't re-use baggies. I do re-use grocery bags.
I don't recycle soda boxes. I do recycle all other cardboard.
I am not vegan, vegetarian or any other veg. I love meat. But, I very, very rarely eat fast food.
I have a septic system. Didn't even know that was a baddie. I always thought it was better than city water.
I have a lawn tractor. But, I don't use chemicals on my 3 acres of lawn or garden. And, I try to use only hand tools on all other jobs.
I do, however use pesticides...only on wasps, though..I am terrified of them.
I use bleach on my white laundry. And hot water...but, I will re-think that one.
I am starting a compost this summer and my new years resolution was to recycle..so, I am on the right track. Right?
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TL Patten Posted 2:04 am
20 Apr 2005
Bless me, Grist, for I have sinned:
I love meat. To salve my conscience, I aim for consistency and eat only those animals whose other parts I use as well (drum heads, leather shoes & jackets, anyone?), and apply the "there aren't enough carnivores left to deplete the supplies and Guernseys won't run wild" rationale.
I have an insatiable book fetish, and I try to offset this with buying them used whenever possible.
Only soft, quilted, cushiony bleached-white toilet paper lives in my bathroom, with no excuses tendered. :::blushes:::
Ah well, guess I lost my candidacy for enviro-martyrdom.
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amiash Posted 2:06 am
20 Apr 2005
Okay, only the proselytizing, self-righteous vegans inspire my irrational dislike, but how many unobtrusive vegans are there?
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SMLowry Posted 3:02 am
20 Apr 2005
- I drive my car way too much. Living in a rural area with no transportation, it seems I'm in that
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SMLowry Posted 3:04 am
20 Apr 2005
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MikeCapone Posted 3:04 am
20 Apr 2005
Sorry if this post isn't a confession, but I just want to point out something pretty obvious that many people don't think about; there are tons of unobstrusive vegans and vegetarians out there, the reason why you don't see them is because they are unobstrusive! If they weren't, you'd notice them!
That's the same with everything. When you think that all X are Y, then think that maybe it's just a distortion, and that you only notice those X out of the total of them, and the others just blend in the crowd.
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SUVs are squared-out minivans.
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wallrock Posted 3:21 am
20 Apr 2005
I drive - a lot. My job has me driving all throughout the Midwest, and when I am not travelling there is the 20 mile one way commute. My only saving grace is unlike every other person I know in my field, I don't drive around in a 4x4.
I don't buy organic as much as I should. I live just outside Madison WI, so there is no excuse for that one.
I smoke - and I don't always properly dispose of the butts.
I use a lot of paper printing reports for my job. I'm talking reams here.
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danacoop Posted 4:05 am
20 Apr 2005
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amckibbin Posted 4:09 am
20 Apr 2005
I like eating meat, especially beef. I try to find grass fed and local, and avoid the harmone / antibiotic kind, but I grew up on a cattle farm and thoughts of vegetarianism give me cheeseburger cravings. Mostly, I feel guilty about the fact that I dont really feel guilty about it.
I drink water out of disposable bottles at work. The water here is terrible, there's nowhere to keep a Britta pitcher, and I forget to wash my reusable bottle every night.
I drink coffee out of paper cups - same problem as the water. I'm lazy about doing the dishes.
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greenmark Posted 4:36 am
20 Apr 2005
It is great that people care so much about the environment that they agonize about which cup to buy, what cleaner to use, whether or not to drive, fly bus or walk to various destinations.
And, yes our actions as consumers (in the economic and literal sense of the word) do and can make a difference. But, in my mind those actions only have a real impact if they are made strategically.
If we wait for everyone around us to just "wake up" and start doing things the right way, we're in for a long wait.
Time is short. Our own personal resources, as well as the planet's resources, are limited. We can achieve a lot more by working together collectively, systemically, and strategically.
So, while you are spending an hour agonizing whether or not you should by the chlorine free office paper, the 100% post-consumer content paper, the kenaf-based, hemp-based, or whatever based paper, consider instead spending that hour instead meeting with the store manager to ask why the store doesn't offer more green products; or, working with your office manager to institute a greener procurement policy at work; or, working with your city council member to adopt a greener purchasing policy for the city. Or, setting up a meeting with your state representative to discuss a sustainable forestry intiative in your state.
You can spend just 1 hour saving 1 tree, or 10,000; 1 lb. of carbon, or 1000 tons. You've only got 1 hour to kill--what's the best use of that time? (Blogging doesn't count). Time, your own most precious natural resource.
Now, doing those things won't provide instant gratification or guilt-remediation like buying the greener product on your own, but it is likely to have more of an impact if we all keep at it. And what is our effort to clean up the environment really about--real change, or avoiding guilt?
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Lisa Hymas Posted 5:34 am
20 Apr 2005
Oh, and though I don't drive much, when I do I'm speedy and aggressive.
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Emily Cunningham Posted 6:11 am
20 Apr 2005
I like hot, semi-long showers. Sometimes (once or twice a week) I take two showers a day- one to wake me up in the morning and one to get all the bike-commuting related grime off of me at the end of the day.
Sometimes I use my car because I've mismanaged my time, or am feeling lazy. I also let friends borrow my car when they don't really "need" it, because I want to be a nice gal and I don't think they'd understand.
Sometimes I eat out and get to-go boxes that are stereo foam and I feel so guilty!
I eat more meat and packaged foods than I should.
I haven't figured out how to systematically use my money for positive change- i.e. how much to buy on organic food and (more) sustainable products, how much to donate to progressive causes, what organizations are strategically the best to donate to, where to put my money, etc. Right now my consumption habits are very ad hoc, guided mostly by feelings and not by personal policy. I mostly buy organic and I try to buy recycled products. However, when I'm trying to decide if I can afford something or not it's more like a "ah what the heck, just go for it" kind of a decision and I'm not always sure if I really can afford products or if I'm truly using my money in a long term, beneficial way (for myself and for the world). It would be better if I'd already thought through my budget and money-related goals and came up with a personal purchase policy so that I wouldn't feel guilty or uneasy making purchase-related decisions. It would be simple, easy, effective, and guilt-free: a purchase either fits into my well-thought-out, socially/ environmentally guided purchase policy or it doesn't. Bingo! I'm working on it...
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joelgillespie Posted 6:37 am
20 Apr 2005
First, I breathe, and emit dangerous levels of CO2 contributing to global warming.
Second, (please say it ain't so) I procreate. Yes, it's true. And worse, I've procreated a lot. I've had five kids. And even worse, environmentaly speaking...five daughters, five potential child bearers...
Third, being the southerner that I am I eat lots of field peas, black eyed peas, and crowder peas, which all give me, well, you know, so I emit dangerous levels of methane...
Fourth, I go to church on Sundays when I could be, a) not driving, b) staying at home breathing very slowly reading my Rodale books.
Fifth, as I just alluded, I read books, the kind with paper...and I use paper for other things too...
Sixth, I use a gas lawn mower...the city makes me mow my grass and I'm too lazy to push a manual mower
Seventh, beign the southerner that I am I listen to southern bands like the Allman Brothers very loudly in my car....that's pollution, right?
Eighth, as I alluded above, I drive, an old Honda Civic with 225,00 miles, but I drive nonetheless...
Ninth, I have four cats, but only one is outdoors, though he likes birds, chipmunks, and rabbits very much...bad kitty
Tenth, to atone for many of the above sins (and more) I married a Canadian who despises field peas and hates the Allman Brothers, and she couldn't follow my lead in voting for Bush even if she wanted to.
Joel Gillespie
Greensboro NC
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gmama Posted 7:34 am
20 Apr 2005
a) I buy huge lots of inexpensive, bleached toilet paper at Costco.
b) I do not make the extra effort to take the spent toilet paper tubes and paper wrapping from the new roll to the recycling bin--I just toss 'em.
c) I use bleach to do my whites--which I justify by the fact that it removes the germs left in the washing machine by the load of poopy diaper covers I wash right before the whites. Also, most of my whites are rags that I use for cleaning up poop, snot, or food from my child or the places he's put them, so they need to be germ-free for the next round of excrement removal.
(Purists reading between the lines will note that I also drive a car--to big box stores, no less--and procreate, but there are some things I just refuse to feel guilty about.)
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thag Posted 7:43 am
20 Apr 2005
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thag Posted 7:48 am
20 Apr 2005
They set up a portable pen in the area needing the weed removal, and leave it there until the goats do there thing. Goats are very effective and often once is all you'll need.
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mtngoat Posted 11:38 am
20 Apr 2005
There it is, and i still feel torn and not too much better.
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perifrog Posted 11:45 am
20 Apr 2005
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rimv Posted 12:07 pm
20 Apr 2005
On the upside of things, it's way more badass than a H2, it's bigger, more practical, and it's got a Kerry sticker.
As penance, I ride a bike and don't even have a car when I'm away at college.
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bvmisa Posted 1:30 pm
20 Apr 2005
Still at other times, I like to feel like a princess and take hot baths, before my dates, wherein I allow my boyfriend to pass for me in his car, though my house is totally out of the way.
I love anything wooden (though I make sure it's sustainable, but who really knows anyway). And I love our ivory heirlooms.
Now I feel really bad.
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katm6 Posted 2:02 am
21 Apr 2005
I refuse, utterly refuse, to put fluorescent lights into my house. I look yellow and wan all day long at work, I refuse to look like sh*t in my own house.
My city doesn't have recycling for "multi-family dwellings," i.e., apartments, but I do try to take my recycling to my aunt and uncle's house, although their city only accepts 1 and 2 plastics and the kitty litter comes in #3 plastics. I just found that out, so I'll be trying to switch next kitty litter purchase.
I walk to work every day, rain, snow or sun, but then spend the summer driving to Champ Car races (they use methanol, not gasoline).
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
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russellp Posted 4:22 am
21 Apr 2005
I order way too make take out food in those disposable containers
I love take out coffee, but am too lazy to bring the personalized mug my girlfriend got me for my birthday and use those paper cups instead.
I travel (preferably by jet), but I don't own a car and am a huge fan of mass transit
I ski, but as time goes on, I enjoy it less and would rather hike.
when I do drive, I like to go fast. I just got back from the Autobahn and it was a rather guilty pleasure.
I prefer plastic garbage bags. They make disposal so much cleaner and easier, although I recyle and compost as much as I can.
As you can see, my sins are several, but I do recycle as much as I can, take the subway, and avoid newspapers; I prefer to read online publications such as Grist.
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iamalaska Posted 6:43 am
21 Apr 2005
I can enumerate every sin, as I have many of them written down as a reminder of what to avoid next time. But these are the ones I just need to get off my chest:
I kill fish for a living, as a commercial fisherman. Living in rural Alaska, I hunt and fish regularly, and don't have access to the beautiful recycling centers I have seen around the Lower 48, so I often just burn my trash. I've dumped oil, bleach, polyvinyl line, aluminum, steel and various other chemicals and materials in the ocean at some point in time. I have caught fish and other things that I didn't mean to catch. I sometimes catch other types of fish and eat them, without reporting them. I like driving fast in my boat. I take my cat to our cabin and she kills songbirds.
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phillucchino Posted 7:44 am
21 Apr 2005
Sometimes I use and then throw out ZipLoc bags that are in good shape
I own a pickup truck.
There!
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Beedy Parker Posted 10:16 am
21 Apr 2005
Here's the challenge: "Radical Monopoly" is a dumb name. We need a new one, one that people will understand, (so they can move on to feeling guilty about not taking social action, instead of thinking they have to be perfect as individuals). So does anybody have a good name for this important principle, one that would take off?
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VTsquash Posted 12:33 am
22 Apr 2005
2- I haven't harassed my landlord into replacing my circa 1980 fridge..
3- I don't try to help change things locally as much as I should be.
but, I quit smoking and eating meat and driving over 65mph this spring..and I've decided that one of the biggest things one can do is refuse to procreate (I'm 29)(I plan on taking a foster kid or adopting when I get settled) so i feel ok.
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peeblesl Posted 6:13 am
22 Apr 2005
peebs
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moremi Posted 7:42 am
22 Apr 2005
Good things - compost, recycle, organic gardener (to sorrow of neighbourhoods), eat only organic beef (mad cow scare), obsessive about energy efficiency and turning off appliances, and have firm plans to buy the hybrid Smart Car when they get the car-seat airbag-turnoff doohickey that they have in European models.
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Saucerman Posted 10:09 am
22 Apr 2005
sustain - it's harder than you think.
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enjoyantigravity Posted 2:16 pm
22 Apr 2005
That's right, I'm a treehugger, so deal with it!
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Ann Burruss Posted 9:12 pm
23 Apr 2005
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licheniche Posted 4:13 am
24 Apr 2005
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johnmcc793 Posted 3:51 am
25 Apr 2005
Did Oprah post this soul-searing question? What does it matter that we confess our eco sins. We don't have the luxury of time to waste on this cathartic moment. Folks, the bow is pointing down. Does the planet really care if we buy environmentally unfriendly copy paper.
CO2 is increasing almost 2 ppm/yr. Isn't that compelling enough to deserve a more meaningful discussion? We are such modern Americans!
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Chris Schults Posted 3:59 am
25 Apr 2005
The genesis for this discussion can be found here (if you're actually interested):
Sin City
So tell us ... what's your dirty little environmental secret?
By Lou Bendrick
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nanu Posted 4:03 am
26 Apr 2005
I turn on the tap and/or fan to "cover" any sounds I think people will hear. This started at my boyfriend's house where the upstairs washroom is right across from his dad's office. Even if I'm taking a quick pee! Sigh.
Other than that, I try to be good..
*I've been a vegetarian (no eggs/rennet-filled cheese/leather/etc) for a long time, but I've been trying to transition to being a vegan for at least 8 months. I struggle, what with ice cream, chocolate, pizza (with rennet-free cheese, of course), and the occassional baby bel and little ceasers crazy bread (oh, rennet-filled cheese, how good you are!)
*I have switched to a "nicer" laundry detergent, but I have yet to hand dry all of my stuff...when you have ten zillion undies and socks to dry, it's just easier to pop them in the drier!
*I have switched to washable menstrual products, but I wonder if the effectiveness of them is worn off since I have to rinse and soak them before I even wash them in the washing machine!
*I don't have my driving license, but I don't take public transportation nearly enough - my boyfriend or my parents/brother drive me.
I'm sure there's more...but these are the ones that bug me constantly.
nanu
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ml524 Posted 11:28 pm
26 Apr 2005
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reneerose Posted 9:51 pm
29 Apr 2005
Also sometimes I buy those potted herbs in Tesco which are meant to use and discard - since I don't have a garden I can't plant them and they usually don't survive long on the window-sill...
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