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   David Roberts Posted 7:42 am
   16 Aug 2006

   Oh,you just wanted an excuse to put your new name up there!
   
   www.grist.org

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   bookerly Posted 10:47 am
   16 Aug 2006

   HaHa!
       Maybe David is right!  Congrats Sarah!
   patrick

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   Biodiversivist Posted 3:04 pm
   16 Aug 2006

   My wife married ahoosier. Best move she ever made... in my opinion.
   
   In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com

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   bookerly Posted 6:48 am
   17 Aug 2006

   But Seriously
   
      Thanks for posting this.  Frankly, this is one of the main parts of why I'm a vegetarian.
   patrick

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   Green Power Posted 6:06 am
   20 Aug 2006

   water and energy intensiveSpeaking to South African friends recently who see no water shortage or problem with europeans importing bottled wine? Export of the water brings in much needed money. Money vs water; now there's a problem.
   Also food especially food miles are so energy intensive. Buy local, conserve water. Recent project showed 7,000 food miles had accumulated on a strawbwerry yoghurt bought in Germany. Energy and water issues can not be over stated going forward.
   
   go ZED!

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   Pandu Posted 2:20 am
   21 Aug 2006

   an easy solutionThis is precisely why I became a vegetarian.
   Since then, I've reduced my agricultural water usage to less than 10% of what it once was, and my agricultural land use to less than 20% compared to when I ate meat.
   It has all the benefits of a great sacrifice, but it's really no sacrifice at all.  

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   caniscandida Posted 5:22 am
   21 Aug 2006

   Krsna consciousnessHare Krishna indeed.
   Curious, Pandu, that your fellow travelers are mostly born under earth and water signs, with just two born under fire signs.
   Curious, also, that bit about Australians' use of water, in excess of Europeans' use.  But Europeans have traditionally been, and acted, constrained by poverty.  Funny that Americans' use of water was not thrown in for comparison.
   On reasons for becoming vegetarian: It had never occurred to me that conservation of water might enter in as a motivation; but sure, why not.
   And the suggestion ought to receive more and more attention.  The 21st century, which has started with such a bang, what with All Islam feeling historically dissed, and Bush the Bully making matters All the Worse, and the global warming crisis not going away, with few or none trying seriously to do anything about it, can reasonably be expected to evolve into a competition, both global and local, for diminishing sources of fresh water.
   Maybe we should learn to imitate Henry II, king of England (Peter O'Toole), who, lovesick and frustrated at the absence of his bosom buddy Thomas a' Becket (Richard Burton), recalls how Becket would insist on giving him baths, and cries out, plangently, when they are at last reunited, "I do not bathe anymore, Thomas!  I stink!!!"
   The Middle Ages must have been a lot of fun, in that regard.  "Don't you think you need a bath?"  "Gosh no.  Why, I believe I had one of them just last year, and nearly caught my death a cold."
   Of course, back in the civilized period of the Roman Empire, everybody sloshed around all afternoon in either the hot tub or the cold tub or the Goldilocks tub.
   On the Bhagavad-Gita, literary masterpiece, great religious text, in which the divine charioteer persuades the thoughtful warrior about to lay down his sword that by starting a bloody war he will uphold the universe: Ummm.  Come back to me later about that.

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   Pandu Posted 5:40 am
   22 Aug 2006

   reason behing the madnesscaniscandida,
     I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean in reference to the various elemental signs.
     Regarding the wisdom of the external teaching of Bhagavad-gita, one should understand it within the context of Mahabharata.  Accordingly, there were many reasons why the war was appropriate.  To properly evaluate the wisdom of the war, considering its effect of destroying civilized culture all over the world; one has to first understand the identity of the living entities and the real goal of life.  Simply put, we are spiritual persons, distinct from these material bodies; and it is in our best interest to separate ourselves from this world which is based on illusion.  If not for the hard struggle for existence, it would be very difficult to separate ourselves from the ignorance that is born of this illusion; and thus we would be perpetually separated from the inconceivably wonderful, loving service of the Personality of Godhead.  In other worlds, when life is easy, our tendency is to try to enjoy our senses; but when things get very difficult, we are more inclined to give up this nonsense and seek a permanent solution to the real problems of life.  Hare Krsna.

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   caniscandida Posted 3:08 pm
   22 Aug 2006

   "hard struggle for existence"Thank you, Pandu, I do believe I understand what you are saying, and find it both valuable and true.
   Never mind the bit about the "elemental signs."  There were far too few people on the page connected to your site, who identified their sunsigns, for that to be of any statistical worth.  Only it popped out at me that there were a few Virgos, Pisces and Capricorns, but just a single Aries and a single Leo.  And no air signs whatsoever.
   On choosing hardship as a better path: In the Southwest of the US, Native American peoples traditionally describe the coming-into-being of human beings as a passage from lower regions into the upper world.  Every transition from one region to another involved a moral evolution, which persists as an ever-important lesson.  After the last passage upward onto the surface of this world, all the families of nations dispersed to places where they thought would be best for them to live.  The Hopi, however, remained close to the Sipapu, the place of emergence, though the land was very dry, and life there would be difficult, because they believed living in such a harsh environment, without the ease and comfort and security that they might find elsewhere, would help them preserve their basic values of peace and harmony.
   Let us hope that as the world's supply of fresh water grows ever less, we may be wise enough to learn from the Hopi, and from Arjuna's charioteer.

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