Dingell's dimwitted detractors

Activists pester him about the most trivial stuff 12

OK, I'm back to defending Dingell (sorry Brian!), mainly because the activists attacking him are acting like idiots.

John Dingell. Photo: bioguide.congress.gov

At a town hall in Ann Arbor, Mich., Dingell unveiled the various climate-change proposals he's going to introduce to Congress on Sep. 1. Press coverage of the event is fairly sketchy, and I can't find a transcript anywhere, so there's not a lot of detail, but the measures include:

  • A carbon tax of up to $100 per ton.
  • A gas tax of $0.50 a gallon.
  • A cap-and-trade system.
  • Ending the mortgage tax deduction for "McMansions" over 3,000 sq. feet.
  • All with the goal of reducing GHG emissions 60-80% by 2050.

As for previous accusations that Dingell is setting this stuff up to fail, he talked with the Ann Arbor News:

He adamantly denied assertions from environmentalists who have recently targeted his record on auto emissions standards that he's considering a tax merely as a way to ensure the legislation will fail.

Although he has previously said he doubts American consumers would be willing to pay the price for efficiency, he insists a tax has to be part of any serious discussions on slowing climate change.

As for hurting lower-income citizens with a consumer tax, Dingell said he intends to balance any such proposal with provisions to increase the Social Security trust fund, bolster funding of a federal program that helps low-income residents pay utility bills and adjusting tax rates for low-income workers.

Obviously the devil is in the details with all these measures, but they certainly amount to an ambitious program -- "the most difficult undertaking in my career," says Dingell.

Meanwhile:

Outside the town hall meeting, about 30 environmental activists, many from Greenpeace, wore red T-shirts and held placards criticizing Dingell for his stand on Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards, which mirrors what auto companies are willing to support rather than the tougher standards environmental groups are demanding.

Argh. Silly, gimmicky, irrational crap. If this is what Dingell runs into, it's no wonder he holds green activists in such contempt.

Relative to what Dingell's proposing, the difference between a 35mpg CAFE (which he supports) and a 45mpg or 50mpg CAFE (which greens support) is meaningless. Utterly and completely trivial. A distraction.

If we could get in place a carbon tax and a cap-and-trade system, the effects will dwarf minor changes in CAFE. Instead of hectoring Dingell about CAFE, activists should be using their energy to push other legislators to support these bills.

This is not to say Dingell's strategy is optimal. He's focusing almost entirely -- and I suspect/fear, sincerely -- on punitive measures, things that will cost Americans money in the short term. But as I and others keep saying, there are plenty of measures to address climate change that would benefit middle-class and low-income Americans, and prove an economic boon in the long-term. We should be starting with them, or at least giving them equal emphasis.

Whatever you think about that angle, though, it's certainly clear that Dingell is approaching the problem more seriously than the costumed twits who follow him around with placards.

David Roberts is staff writer for Grist. You can follow his Twitter feed at twitter.com/drgrist.

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  1. Sean Casten's avatar

    Sean Casten Posted 6:30 am
    09 Aug 2007

    Hear, hear.
  2. sunflower's avatar

    sunflower Posted 7:02 am
    09 Aug 2007

    $0.50/gallon gasoline is $200/ton carbon tax
  3. Andrew Dessler Posted 8:06 am
    09 Aug 2007

    Recycle the proceeds?Does he say what he's going to do with the income from the taxes (and permits, if he auctions them)?

  4. David Roberts's avatar

    David Roberts Posted 8:13 am
    09 Aug 2007

    YesI think he plans to put some of it toward renewable energy R&D, and some toward expanding the EITC, funding the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, and maybe some for the Social Security trust fund.
    I won't swear to any of that (long story), but it's clear that he is making some effort to put the revenue toward reducing regressivity.

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  5. Stretch Posted 12:51 pm
    09 Aug 2007

    Are you serious?You are going to call out Greenpeace when Dingell has been nothing but an obstruction to serious discussion about global warming?  Where was he last Congress when Energy and Commerce held no hearings on global warming?  He sat there silently.
    This year as chair he held hearings only after Pelosi directly threatened his jurisdiction by forming the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming.
    Dingell is not trying to pass legislation.  He and Chairman Boucher are trying to delay anything harms to their respective pet projects- namely the domestic auto industry and coal.  
    He is not being subtle about it either. Dingell has intentionally picked proposals that are so politically unpopular that they could never ever pass.  This way he can say he wants action while undermining realistic efforts to enact change.
    Despite what some people suggest gas taxes are unpopular.  No politician in his or her right mind wants to have the price of gasoline hung around their neck.  The attack ads would write themselves.
    Similarly a carbon tax is doomed.  Anyone who reads the paper knows that politicians that get labelled as tax raisers are done.
    And now he is proposing to mess with people's love of bigger houses?  The policy is great but come on!  Anyone projected to have a race anywhere close to being competitive might as well come out against ice cream.  (And good luck raising any money)
    I am no fan of Greenpeace's tactics but please do not dirty this site with defenses of Dingell.
    I think your site needs to fill that DC reporter position quickly if this is the garbage that is going to qualify as insight into politics.

  6. tomcal Posted 12:13 am
    10 Aug 2007

    Where was Dingell?"Where was he last Congress when Energy and Commerce held no hearings on global warming?"
    He was in the minority with the other Democrats, i.e. they could not call any hearings under Republican control.  
    How soon we forget...  

  7. GreenMom Posted 1:27 am
    10 Aug 2007

    Dingell's no dummy...

    Dingell is an incredibly skillful politician and he's clearly playing a complicated political game.
    We're having trouble interpreting it because he's balancing competing political claims -- the growing consensus for greenhouse gas legislation among Congressional Democrats, his support for the auto industry, his desire not to be one-upped by the Speaker, and god knows what else, including whatever backroom deals he's got going and maybe even his legacy.  Not to mention whatever he may be hearing from constituents.
    Greenpeace is annoying because they're falling into the trap of looking shrill in the face of a policy proposal that at the very least seems serious.  That just makes Greenpeace look stupid.
    I'd love to be a fly on Nancy Pelosi's wall right now -- let's see how she decides to take this proposal -- it'll be a serious test of her political skill.

  8. Stretch Posted 2:40 am
    10 Aug 2007

    Dingell Silent in 109thTomcal points out Dingell was in the minority in 109th.  Great insight.
    He was the ranking Democrat on Energy and Commerce.  He did not publicly demand global warming hearings. In fact he was pretty much silent on the entire topic unless it was to bash Kyoto or downplay the possibility of legislating on the topic until September 2006.
  9. ErikB Posted 5:43 am
    10 Aug 2007

    DingleberryDingle is in the pockets of The Big 3 Automakers and their labor unions.  

    They dont want higher gas mileages. Never have never will. I dont trust this guy at all.

    HOW did this guy end up as chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee is the real question!!  
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    sunflower Posted 6:31 am
    10 Aug 2007

    Seniority
  11. roz Posted 8:38 am
    10 Aug 2007

    gradual is betterI think its much better to have taxes introduced over time.
    I'd rather see 5¢ added to the per gallon gas tax per year over the next 10 years.
    This way the pricing expectations are clear, people can forecast how much tax will be added, but they don't freak out. It will be tougher to pass it this way.

  12. sukumar Posted 7:55 am
    13 Aug 2007

    The big pictureThere's no question that Dingell has been quite intransigent on global warming issues in the (even very recent) past and is extremely "sensitive" (to put it politely) to the concerns/welfare of the "Big 3" Detroit automakers, but there are greater forces at work here now than even the "Big 3" ... perhaps some of Dingell's change of heart on a carbon/gas tax and cap & trade system is mediated by the growing realization -- even among those close to the auto industry -- that Detroit actually stands to profit from tougher emission standards.

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