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   d41295 Posted 5:45 am
   06 Feb 2007

   sadFar from being "the greatest story ever," it's really quite a sad story, for those of us who aren't smartasses.
   
   

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   GreenEngineer Posted 7:18 am
   06 Feb 2007

   notFor once in my life, I have to agree with d41295.  This is simply pathetic, and does not belong here.

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   wackatalpidae Posted 7:25 am
   06 Feb 2007

   very sad, but for a different reasonI was just thinking about some of the cool stuff we've learned from exploring space beyond Earth, especially the recent Mars probes. Learning about other planets can be inspiring, entertaining, and help us understand our own environment. And discovery of life beyond Earth would, I believe, change views for the better.
   If only we could find a way for the American people to once again get excited about exploring space. Maybe we need better story tellers. We have to find a way to compete with American Idol and similar mind-numbing entertainment. We need people who are willing to devote time to educating America and showing them that scientific discoveries, exploring jungles, working toward energy independence... can be enjoyable to follow, to read about, to observe and participate in.
   Sadly, even someone concerned about the survival of life on Earth, I think, is more fascinated by an astronaut attempting to murder someone, than by what we've learned during exploration of Mars. He is as interested in sharing this sad tale, as Americans are obsessed with following such stories.
   And furthermore, I've wasted precious minutes looking at what he posted.
   Anyone interested in changing America so it truly cares about Earth... this is what you are fighting. Time to stop telling Americans they are stupid and just don't get it. You are fighting human nature. We are doomed.

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   wackatalpidae Posted 7:50 am
   06 Feb 2007

   dudeWhat's the latest on O.J.? Or Michael Jackson? Or that runaway bride chick?

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   David Roberts Posted 8:10 am
   06 Feb 2007

   Someday,me and the tens of thousands of other people who delighted in this bizarre, tragicomic story of an astronaut and married mother of three, in diapers, carrying a mallet and a BB gun, driving hundreds of miles to confront her romantic rival in a parking garage, will develop the lofty intellectual nobility of True Environmentalists and cease our prurient interest in such grubby human dramas. We will spend all our time in earnest study of the Lessons Mars Can Teach Us.
   Let me know when that day approaches, so I can slit my throat, go to hell, and hang out with people who aren't so tediously unctuous.
   I really think you enviros could tackle this whole planet problem if it weren't for all the inferior people you have to deal with!
   
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   amazingdrx Posted 8:26 am
   06 Feb 2007

   I'm hearing a country songAh pepper sprayed your slut,
   Cause I still love you.
   What's more natural than an astronaut in diapers, they were probably special space diapers.  Her mug shot may compete on a level with Nick Nolte's on smoking gun dot com.
   http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/nasaurine1.html
   
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   caniscandida Posted 10:19 am
   06 Feb 2007

   "space diapers"Right, Amazing; and CNN did not mention the detail that astronauts wear them a lot.  ABC and Jim Lehrer did, though.  Presumably, the existence of those things has been fairly well suppressed, because NASA fears that widespread knowledge of them might besmirch, so to speak, the image of astronauts as heroes.
   So they must be pretty special, separating all waste matter from the body, and neutralizing the smell.  Still, is that the way Lisa Nowak showed up in Orlando to injure her rival, all unwashed and with a full diaper?
   Clearly, this is a sad story.  And Lisa looked mighty sad, as she stood in court, in chains.
   
   Chickens are our cousins!
   
   So are other sensitive animals!
   
   Enough is enough!
   
   No more factory farms!

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   Tom Philpott Posted 11:00 am
   06 Feb 2007

   Just-the-facts reporting at its finestNot just any old reporter could maintain the cold, rigorous prose of the NYT through the following line:
   
   She told the police she had worn diapers on the journey so that she would not have to stop to use the restroom so she could arrive in time to meet Captain Shipman's flight at the airport.
   
   That's nothing short of brilliant.
   
   Victual Reality

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   amazingdrx Posted 3:43 pm
   06 Feb 2007

   Don't read thisThe whole story Canis.  Bizzaro.
   http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0206073as ...
   
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    wackatalpidae Posted 11:52 pm
    06 Feb 2007

    greatest story everMr. Roberts, Two Comments:
    First Comment
    Your use of the phrase "greatest story ever told" was irksome. If you had just posted the link and some smartass remarks, fine. But the geatest story ever told? I thought Grist was trying to stimulate intelligent conversation, spiced with humor, about the environment. Do I want to send a right-wing friend here to find posts about diapers and bb guns? Sir, you are more sophisticated than that.
    Second Comment
    From your "someday" comment: "Let me know when that day approaches, so I can slit my throat, go to hell, and hang out with people who aren't so tediously unctuous."
    This is even more sad than the story. This even more sad than your posting of the story on the Grist site. You are saying life is not worth living if you don't have stories about O.J. Michael Jackson, run-away brides, and now diapers and bb guns to follow?!
    YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE! The greatest story ever told is the story about evolution of a web of life and how it led to and supports sentient life. The sequel is about how that sentient life makes the decision to save or destroy that web. I look forward to episode three, when we learn how they go about it.
    The story about diapers and bb guns is interesting. Learning a bit about astronauts and how they solve waste issue. And there is the human drama. Very interesting. But why post it here? Maybe you need another blog for this sort of stuff.
    Funny, really, that you tried to gather suggestions on how to reduce comment traffic. Not posting material unrelated to Grist mission would be a good place  to start.
    Now I must go wash my hair shirts. But first I must find a rock and melt some snow. Where are those sticks I rub together to start fires?

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    Kira Posted 12:52 am
    07 Feb 2007

    But seriously folksI guess this pretty much kills the chance of sending a woman on the Mars mission.
    Better yet, maybe it'll kill the Mars mission.

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    caniscandida Posted 2:45 am
    07 Feb 2007

    women are from Mars, men are from ...... Pan?  Is there a planet Pan?  You know, the constantly horny goat-god?
    From what I know about this case so far, which is not much, Oefelein seems to have had much greater responsibility for disrupting the harmony of the astronaut community, than Nowak.  Really, "crazy," i.e. "in a persistent irrational state due to sexual urges," seems to be the default setting for men.  With women, it is rare and unfortunate that someone such as Lisa Nowak can prove "Medea" and "Fatal Attraction" to be not completely fantastic.
    So it is men, not women, who should be stricken from the mission to Mars.
    Here is an idea for a sit-com: An all-girl mission to Mars; but they can receive holographic communications from their significant others back on Earth, and they can also be "with" them, virtually, in a holodeck.  Also, they are assisted by two male-appearing androids.
    On a totally different subject, techy issues: Not only have space diapers entered the conversation, but also there is the remarkable GPS anklet that Nowak must wear.  The court is satisfied that she is to return to Houston, and hopefully stay there.  But the judge specified that if she should enter the state of Florida, that would trigger some alarm, and Shipman would be at once notified by phone, to say that her assailant is in the state.  The defense attorney representing Nowak wanted to know if when she flies over Florida air space on trial business, as she now will have to do, that would set off the alarm; the judge said, Yes, it probably would.  The attorney then said, Could the alarm not be activated if Nowak is detected to be moving at over 500 mph; and the judge said, Yes, that could be considered and arranged.
    Way too high and fast for me to follow!
    
    Chickens are our cousins!
    
    So are other sensitive animals!
    
    Enough is enough!
    
    No more factory farms!

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    Tom Philpott Posted 2:51 am
    07 Feb 2007

    BY Kira's logic ...GWB's run should pretty much kill the chance for having a man elected president in 2008.
    
    Victual Reality

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    wackatalpidae Posted 3:18 am
    07 Feb 2007

    environment angleI get it!!!
    How many trees, and where, would Nowak have to plant to offset carbon emissions from the attempted murder?
    There is the vinyl tubing and plastic garbage bags, both petroleum products. Paper probably was not an option. And then the steel knife and hammer. Energy intensive products that will not be used for legal purpose, but stored in bin as evidence or landfilled. Waste. Waste. Waste. At least the pepper spray was a renewable plant product.
    And driving 900 miles?!!! Should have used mass transit. Maybe rent a Prius? How much gas did she burn for this crime of passion?! Or did she consider biodiesel?
    She be sentenced to planting trees until she sequester all of the carbon she wasted. And not jusat over the next 50 years. Plant trees until all of the carbon is physically removed from atmosphere. If criminals had to consider carbon offsets before committing crime, there would be less crime. Too expensive.
    Maybe a good argument for electric cars? Restricted range would required her to stop and recharge for at least a few hours. Chance to cool down and decide whether really good to kill someone.
    And what about those diapers?!! Can we make something that adsorbs carbon dioxide? Human civilization needs a gigantic diaper to collect waste. Wrap them around coal-burning power plants. Chemically possible?

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    d41295 Posted 3:25 am
    07 Feb 2007

    assDavid Roberts, sometimes on this blog you are a complete ass, and this is one of those times. This woman just had the worst episode of her life splashed across the front pages and TV screens all over the country. All of us, even you, have done stupid things for love, but luckily we weren't held up for ridicule by an entire country. This woman has a husband, and children, and their lives are suddenly in shambles. Her career is finished. The other people involved are no doubt in horrors right now as well. Nowak's pain is transparent and obvious, and all you do is take "delight" in it, as if it's something for your putrid amusement. Grow up.
    
     

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    David Roberts Posted 3:39 am
    07 Feb 2007

    MoDStephen Colbert introduced his show last night by saying, "I'm attacking America's problems like a spurned astronaut!" I almost laughed, but then I remembered the Seriousness and Solemnity required of me as a Man of Destiny.
    
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    d41295 Posted 4:10 am
    07 Feb 2007

    Men of DestinyThat's right, Mr. Roberts, and as you have demonstrated, you are certainly no man of destiny--but rather, a silly, insensitive, callous environmentalist who takes pleasure in other people's pain.
    PS: Stop digging already.
    
    

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    David Roberts Posted 4:16 am
    07 Feb 2007

    Are you a Man of Destiny, d41295?And if so, do you get some kind of badge or t-shirt?
    
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    wackatalpidae Posted 4:50 am
    07 Feb 2007

    Next on Grist......extolling the environmental virtues of the new green Humvee... 15 mpg rather than 7 mpg. THAT"S A 100% IMPROVEMENT! Everyone should get one.
    Then... research investigating ways to get more from a whale carcass. Let's make whaling as efficient as possible... just like Native Americans used buffalo!
    After that... we'll make light of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and starving Africans.
    Heeeeeyyyy... gotta relax and not take life too seriously.
    If you can't derive pleasure from other's misfortune.. what's the point of living??!!!

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    d41295 Posted 6:13 am
    07 Feb 2007

    Re: Are you a Man of Destiny, d41295?David Roberts, I don't know if I am a man of destiny. Usually I think not. I do know, however, that I am not the callous, insensitive jerk that you are. I don't laugh at people in pain, for example.
    
    

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    Tom Philpott Posted 12:56 pm
    07 Feb 2007

    MOD squadDavid Roberts wrote: "Do [men of destiny] get some kind of badge or t-shirt?"
    No, they actually get a special diaper.
    
    Victual Reality

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    amazingdrx Posted 2:38 pm
    07 Feb 2007

    Wrong Tom"GWB's run should pretty much kill the chance for having a man elected president"
    It should pretty much kill the chance for having another chimp elected prez.
    Vote human in '08!  
    
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    amazingdrx Posted 2:40 pm
    07 Feb 2007

    MoDI am a Man of Destiny!  My bunghole is becoming angry!!  Aaaaaahhhhaaahhhhhhhh!!!!
    Where's my space diaper?
    
    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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