Climate Skeptics Should be Skeptical of Their Own Information

Deniers are just one off from the truth 5

I give a lot of talks on climate change and what we should do about it. Invariably, at the end, some smug white haired guy in his sixties raises his hand and says something like this: “I’m a smart guy (Phd, engineer, whatever—he lays out the credentials) and I’m a critical thinker. (of course!) and in my research on climate, I’ve come across a lot of controversy on the science. I don’t think we’re even close to resolution on this.”

This comment is, of course, incredibly intellectually lazy, because the scientific community has rarely had such comprehensive understanding of an issue. It’s not a matter of consensus, it’s that scientists all over the world, speaking different languages, using different methodologies, and under different ideologies, are all finding the same thing—climate change is happening and is human caused.

What’s so annoying about Mr. “I’m a free thinker” is that if he really were a critical free thinker, he’d ponder for just a second the question of why, with all this good science, he’s still on the fence. And if he researched that just a little bit, he’d find out that ExxonMobil and other fossil fuel interests have spend tens of millions of dollars over several decades supporting scientific disinformation on climate, with the express goal of putting doubt into the minds of Americans, with the intent of protecting profits from carbon regulation.

This isn’t a conspiracy theory: ExxonMobil’s CEO recently renounced the practice. (Mostly—see here for details.) And the whole scam was even further, and perhaps penultimately, exposed by Andy Revkin in the New York Times. Revkin points out that the industry ignored its own scientists! But the damage is done—the most successful and destructive marketing campaign in the history of the world—using the same tactics, and some of the same people as the tobacco industry—has led to an American population that is actually less concerned about climate change as a human caused problem now than a few years ago.

In my world, we say: “these people are dying off.” Or “they’re so clueless, forget about them.” But these guys are coming through the windows at me every day, and they seem pretty damn healthy! Last week, our CEO handed me two climate denier CDs guests had given him (both have been widely, spectacularly debunked). Regardless, things seem to be getting worse, not better. This is a catastrophe, but one with a significant opportunity attached.

Mr. Skeptic, the most arrogant, damaging, useless and intellectually lazy branch of humanity living today, could use his particular personality and worldview to become a productive, hopeful, helpful, and constructive member of society by turning his self-lauded critical thinking skills to the question of exactly why he’s a doubter.

Auden Schendler is Executive Director of Sustainability at Aspen Skiing Company. He is the author of Getting Green Done: Hard Truths From the Front Lines of the Sustainability Revolution (PublicAffairs, 2009).

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  1. Orng Crush Posted 2:51 pm
    28 Apr 2009

    We need more skepticism of every environmental study instead of swallowing whatever confirms our beliefs.
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    ArtWyrks Posted 7:12 am
    29 Apr 2009

    I resent your disrespect for the age of anyone that has the wherewithal to disagree (no, not so much as disagrees with you, as to merely suggest the answer may be argueable) with you Mr. Schendler, CEO of "Let's all go green!" I'm not white headed, but I'm sure you would put me in the same stable as Mr. Smug, let me tell you exactly why we need more people like the ones you so maliciously denigrate. It's because of people like you, we don't know where your sensibilities or loyalties really lay (other than with your own self.)  Are you in this debate because you really feel like we have lost our way as a species, or because we are on the brink of self-destruction or is it really because there is money to be made off of "green."  You can tout the near-godly motives, character, and infallibilty of scientists all day long, but anyone who cares to take just about a ten minute look will find that scientists tend to flock together.  As do most people who are way over educated and who seem to believe only a sheepskin in their field (and then they usually quip "where did you get your degree...) qualifies anyone to discuss the matter with someone so obviously bright. Then when they are proven wrong, they are so astonished!Science is nothing more than a theory that happens to be "in" at the time. Once it was fact that earth was the center of the universe, agreed to by all until Nicolaus Copernicus. It was once fact that the universe consisted solely of our own galaxy until someone made a telescope big enough to see past it. Then it was fact that the universe was expanding, but slowing down due to gravity, and no one paid attention to Einstein when he offered dark matter as a variable and now they "think" the universe is expanding and speeding up.We, the old, crotchety, put 'em out to pasture 'cause their opinion ain't worth crap, folks that you deem so pitiful, and unworthy of life have watched in awe as greed has sprouted and bloomed into grotesque and sublime magnificance. Companies like Monsanto insidiously tinker with our food while scientists promise us the next miracle cure by tinkering with our fetuses and at the same time the millionaire club that has the gall to call themselves our representatives put their hands in the till. And let's not forget that our collective asses will be covered by the boys at NASA spending gazillions to send us to Mars as a back up plan to disaster.All the while these groups are spewing out their own spin, telling us how wonderful the world will be once they get the approval (xlate to billions) to do this or that. But look! The poor keep getting poorer and the rich richer. The next thing you will say is that we should just shut up, sit back, and let the experts handle all this. The problem is, Mr. Schendler, that the "experts" got us into this. I wouldn't have bought plastic, or driven gas cars, for all these years if it had not been easy for me to do. But more to the point, very profitable for someone else! As for global warming, anyone who believes that it is caused by man is an idiot. I concede we may nudge it along, but that is hardly the fault of the average Joe. Pull out the graphs and pie charts and point to how much CO2 has risen in the last 80 years or whatever toxin du jour and some other scientist will pull a plug of glacier ice 1000 years old that shows CO2 at that same level or higher. It's not rocket science to see how the earth moves through cyclic changes, not to mention changes caused by super eruptions of volcanoes or asteroid collisions, and who is going to say that Neanderthal caused that by striking too much flint and making wood fires.  Man is only along for the ride, no matter how bumpy it gets. I think most folks want to be good stewards of what we possess, there just happens to be a few obscenly greedy people in power that keep screwing it up.Mr. Smug has just as much by God right to be that way as you to be annoyingly condescending Mr. Schendler. He's done something that you have not, and may not accomplish. He's survived for 60 some years.  Be carefull!  As much as you might like to think you do, you don't have a clue where that man has been! He may have lived through stuff that will curl your little green toes. If you want to blame someone, blame the people in power. The rest will just have to eat cake.John Pollardwww.artwyrks.com
  3. Steven Earl Salmony Posted 8:06 am
    29 Apr 2009

    At the crux of all our discussions in the Grist Mill community, two groups of people make their appearance.

    In one group, we recognize the "people of the economy" who have managed to institutionalize the 'goodness' of greed and arrogance associated with their idolatry of wealth consolidation and the power to continue accumulating filthy lucre. These people will uniformly say that their drive for economic growth and the power wealth purchases is not only good but also primary. They make it crystal clear that the protection of the Earth from industrialization and big business is secondary. In the other group, we have "people of Earth's ecology" who see, as you do, that the preservation of the Earth needs to be primary and the growth of global economy secondary because there can be no such thing as a manmade economy without the resources and ecosystem services the Earth, and only the Earth, can provide.

    The Earth can get along quite nicely without the Masters of the Universe and their idolatrized global economy; but I do not think anyone can sensibly argue with the point that the economy cannot exist without a planet to provide for its viability. Even so, both of us recognize that there are many ideologues who do voceriferously argue that the human economy can exist independent of the Earth. I call it "money for nothing" thinking of do-nothing people. We also know that these ideologues are the very people who actually produce nothing, but end up with most of the world's wealth. In our time timorous emasculated, absurdly high-paid "talking heads" in the mainstream media support this perverse situation. People who are actual producers lose their jobs, health care, pensions, etc while the Masters of the Universe, who produce nothing, walk away with millions of dollars in neatly packaged "golden parachutes" into carefree lives of effortless ease.

    As I see it, this is a problem. The institutionalized power of a few million selfish people who currently organize and manage the global political economy {for their own interests primarily} is much greater than the power that belongs to the billions of people who have very little wealth but hold a priceless vested interest in the preservation of the Earth as a fit place for human habitation by our children and coming generations.

    The struggle today between the "haves" and the "have-nots" -- between the self-proclaimed Masters of the Universe and the people these masters call simpletons -- can be likened to the Biblical confrontation between Goliath and David.

    Let's make no mistake about it. The duplicitous, avaricious Masters of the Universe among us are a modern representation of Goliath and the people these masters have dubbed simpletons, the ones who are honest, transparent, productive and accountable for their actions, are living examples of the courageous David.



    Steven Earl Salmony
    AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population
    established 2001
    http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176
    http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/index.php— Steven Earl Salmony, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
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    Auden Schendler Posted 11:50 am
    29 Apr 2009

    This is a great related post from Climate Progress along the theme of denial and how it is affecting and will affect the GOP.http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/29/specter-gop-minority-party-conservative-global-warming-deniers/
  5. Jake Posted 9:28 am
    01 May 2009

    I echo John Pollard's comment. The way you've written your second sentence makes it sound like you're assessing that guy on the basis of his age and looks. Was this your intent? Sure comes off that way. There are words that apply to people who judge others on the basis of superficial characteristics. 

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