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Germany opens world’s first carbon-capturing ‘clean coal’ demo plant 8

Germany will next week open the world's first "clean coal" plant actually ready to capture and store its carbon-dioxide emissions. The 30-megawatt, $100 million Schwarze Pumpe demonstration plant will burn coal in an atmosphere of oxygen instead of regular air, producing some 10 tons per hour of compressed CO2 that can be captured and buried under a depleted gas field. (Such "oxyfuel combustion" technology is different from the integrated gasification combined cycle systems being pursued in the U.S.) While the project is a step forward for "clean coal," a full-scale system is many years and many dollars away. By the by, "clean coal" is both oxymoronic and plain ol' moronic; as one Greenpeace activist sums up, "Our concern is that this technology is used to justify the construction of more coal power plants. It's too expensive, it will come too late, and it will divert money from the real solutions, renewable energies and energy efficiency." Not to mention that whole leveling-mountains thing.

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  1. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 11:37 am
    05 Sep 2008

    CO2 = C + O X 2 ??Here's what I don't understand.
    C02.
    It's got 2 O's -- or oxygens and a C.
    If we could strip off the C, we could use the O2 to burn more coal efficiency.
    The C would just be...what? Black soot or something?  That seems like it would be easy to bury.
  2. Pangolin's avatar

    Pangolin Posted 11:52 am
    05 Sep 2008

    It's called charcoal JBYou can make it from pyrolized biomass, plow it into a field and the field grows more crops, emits less GHG's and stores more rainfall as groundwater. People call it biochar or terra preta nova.
    It's also a dang bit easier to implement on a global scale than CCS. And it would store more carbon in the ground for less money.
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    Delay And Deny Posted 12:25 pm
    05 Sep 2008

    Fuel Not Waste
    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/01/S2P ...
    Scientists Use Sunlight to Make Fuel From CO2
    Researchers at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico have found a way of using sunlight to recycle carbon dioxide and produce fuels like methanol or gasoline.
  4. BlackBear Posted 8:58 pm
    05 Sep 2008

    How droll my wit!"Use Sunlight to Make Fuel From CO2"
    Back when I was in school we called that process photosynthesis.
    Sorry, JB, I just couldn't help myself!
  5. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 5:18 am
    06 Sep 2008

    Plants Do It, Trees Do It, Even Educated......Materials Scientists Do It.  
    Let's Do It.  
    Let's Photosynthesize CO2.
    BlackBear, I was thinking the same thing last night as I rolled the whole CO2 issue around in my head.   Of course, CO2 is a FOOD to one-half of the species taxonomy!
    Seriously, couldn't genetic engineering be used to make a really fat, wasteful, sloth of a fern that sat around all day doing nothing but gobbling down CO2 and putting on a really thick coat of cellulose.
  6. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 7:27 pm
    06 Sep 2008

    Fun Fun Fun on the Autobahn...

    Europe Signs Up for Hydrogen Cars

    The European Parliament has called for a rollout of a EU filling-station network for hydrogen-powered cars
    http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/sep2008/gb2 ...
    The European Parliament has called on the EU's executive to introduce measures to support the roll-out of a Europe-wide filling-station network for hydrogen-powered cars and develop common standards for the vehicles across all member states.
    MEPs almost unanimously adopted a report on Wednesday (3 September) drafted by members of the centre-right European Peoples' Party grouping in the parliament on hydrogen-powered vehicles.

  7. Pangolin's avatar

    Pangolin Posted 8:10 pm
    06 Sep 2008

    That's just spam JBYour last post doesn't even have the slightest connection to the carbon-capture coal plant referred to in the OP. Hydrogen is still a dead horse as a transport fuel.
  8. Delay And Deny's avatar

    Delay And Deny Posted 2:38 am
    07 Sep 2008

    EurogasIt's relevant in the sense of making all the fuss about coal irrelevant.
    And the fact that the entire European Union committed to building a Hydrogen Highway would seem to be significant in any discussion...

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