Be careful what you wish for

Conservative candidate in Ontario will expand nuclear power industry, if elected 8

Me, a month ago: What the Ontario election needs is for the parties to talk more about energy issues!

Me, a few days ago: Crud.

Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory said Saturday that environmental approval for energy projects is operating at a snail's pace, and if his party comes to power, he will revitalize the province's nuclear sector.

I would so love for the expansion of nuclear power to not be the one point of agreement between the two biggest parties in my province.

John McGrath is an intinerant student and sometimes reporter currently living in Toronto, Canada. He mainly writes about Canadian and International Politics from an energy and climate perspective

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  1. JMG's avatar

    JMG Posted 3:53 pm
    27 Sep 2007

    You prefer coal?

    Save the world: Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.
  2. keith Posted 8:22 pm
    27 Sep 2007

    Renewable is DoableWe actually have a detailed plan, Renewable is Doable, for getting off coal quickly in Ontario and phasing out nuclear as the plants come to the end of their life. It would result in half the greenhouse gas emissions of the nuclear-heavy plan over the next twenty years (because they are so slow to build, and don't work as well as predicted), and will be cheaper to boot.
    There are two parties opposed to new nuclear in Ontario, including one that may hold the balance of power in a minority government and who has made rethinking nuclear one of their conditions for support. So we may have a happy ending after all.
  3. bryankwalton Posted 11:21 pm
    27 Sep 2007

    I'm with JMGI used to be very anti-nuclear.  Not anymore.  Don't misunderstand me.  Wind, solar, geothermal are definitely the way to go long term and I wish we used more of it now.  But nuclear must be in the mix.  Coal fired power plants must be stopped -- now.  If we are serious about fighting climate change, nuclear must be in the mix.
  4. keith Posted 12:05 am
    28 Sep 2007

    Nuclear doesn't get the job done in timeIf you look at the Renewable is Doable plan, it actually phases out coal 5 years earlier than relying on nuclear. Conservation and distributed, green power are much quicker to build than new nuclear plants; Ontario's existing nuclear plants start going off-line in 2009 and drop off dramatically post-2014, whereas a new nuclear plant likely wouldn't arrive pre-2018 or 2020.
    One of the big problems in Ontario is that 8 of our 20 reactors had to be closed in the 1995 - 97 period, which resulted in coal use doubling over the last decade to make up the difference. The current plan would repeat this mistake.
  5. amazingdrx's avatar

    amazingdrx Posted 1:19 am
    28 Sep 2007

    Wind faster and cheaperNuclear is way too expensive and slow to build out.
    the NIMBY lawsuits with nukes are much worse than wind.  Coal lawsuits are coming on strong too, raising the cost of coal power.
    Very few  want a nuke or coal plant anywhere near their family, home, or business.
    The cost per kwh, figuring in all the costs down the road as well,are much lower for waste free, pollution free, ground water contamination free, mining contamination free, and GHG free wind power.

    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
  6. amazingdrx's avatar

    amazingdrx Posted 1:24 am
    28 Sep 2007

    Hydro storageBy incorporating hydro electric storage using excess wind power to pump water up into higher resevoirs, wind can provide it's own affordable backup power.
    This replenishes aquifers as well by transporting excess water from flooding back up the watershed to soak down through wetlands.
    Wetlands act as huge carbon sinks.
    Ontario has the wetlands and the wind and the manufacturing expertise to beat the world in this technology.

    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
  7. GRLCowan's avatar

    GRLCowan Posted 4:56 am
    28 Sep 2007

    Those who say renewable is doable ...... are popularly suspected of intending to profit from natural gas revenues when it is not done; they have a track record in this regard.
    Framing the question in terms of wanting nukes over one's back fence is a way of avoiding contact with reality. In that realm, no-one really minds a nuclear power station over his or her back fence. They have been good neighbours, unlike the alternative gas pipelines or coal trains.
    --- G. R. L. Cowan, former H2 energy fan

    Internal combustion power without exhaust --

    http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/boron_blast.html
  8. keith Posted 6:33 am
    28 Sep 2007

    Renewable does not = gasTake a look at the plan - gas is lower than in the government's plan, where it is needed to meet the variable demand not covered by the nukes.

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