Arguing about the Kyoto Protocol

It’s time to move on 7

It's time for everyone to move past the Kyoto Protocol.

For those not familiar with the details, Kyoto imposes specific emission-reduction targets for each industrialized country over a five-year "commitment period" of 2008-2012. Targets were defined for total emissions of CO2 and five other greenhouse gases: the required emission reductions were 8 percent for the European Union and a few other European nations; 7 percent for the United States; 6 percent for Japan and Canada; and zero (i.e. hold emissions at their baseline level) for Russia and Ukraine. If all nations met their targets, the total emission reduction from these nations would be 5.2 percent below 1990 levels.

Given the time it takes to reduce emissions and the fact that the commitment period starts in about a year, it would be impossible for the U.S. to make the necessary reductions to comply with Kyoto. The only option for the U.S. would be to buy credits from countries like Russia. This is not a good solution because Russia's emissions are far below their baseline level, so the U.S. would be buying credits for emissions that never would have occurred in any event -- thus there would be no real reduction in emissions.

Thus, Kyoto is done. Finished. Last week's news. The U.S. is never going to ratify it, and at this point, that's probably sensible. Instead, we should be focusing on what the world is going to do after 2012. What will the follow-up agreement look like, and how can the rest of the world engage the U.S. and China in it?

There is, however, a reason that advocates continue to focus on Kyoto. Many opponents of Kyoto actually oppose all mitigation efforts, but focus their attacks on Kyoto because of its many problems. By setting up the false choice between Kyoto and doing nothing, they can use Kyoto's many weaknesses to appear to discredit any mitigation program. This is similar to the false choice that Republicans attempted to set up between "stay the course" and "cut and run."

Those false choices willfully misrepresent the problems. So while Kyoto has clear problems, those problems do not discredit future mitigation efforts. This needs to be made clear to everyone who's still arguing about Kyoto. The debate needs to move past that agreement and start focusing on the future of mitigation.

Andrew Dessler is an associate professor in the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at Texas A&M University; his research focuses on the physics of climate change, climate feedbacks in particular.

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  1. Biodiversivist's avatar

    Biodiversivist Posted 12:48 pm
    11 Nov 2006

    Are you suggesting that we were right not toratify it after all? I can buy that. It is an example of why you don't want bureaucrats running the world. Sarcasm alert ...Who could have guessed people would start burning down their forests make biofuels?

    In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com
  2. Andrew Dessler Posted 2:06 pm
    11 Nov 2006

    that's not what I'm sayingThe decision of whether to ratify the KP in 1998 is completely different from the decision today.  Today, ratifying the KP makes no sense.  In 1998, on the other hand, ratifying the KP would have been a far more sensible move.
  3. bookerly Posted 2:32 pm
    11 Nov 2006

    Symbols matter

      The US refusal to ratify the Kyoto Protocal has become a symbol of American indifference to global warming and our willingness to work with others to address problems.
      It's great to say let's move beyond it, but in terms of negotiating a new protocal, the US lacks credibility since many people may say "Who cares what they think, they'll never ratify it anyway."
      While it may not have any practical benefits at one level, it would signal to the rest of the world that the US is serious about global warming.
      And the idea that we cannot move forward if we are still "discussing" Kyoto is a false dichotomy.

    There is no reason we can't do both.
    FWIW, Symbols matter.
    patrick
  4. Andrew Dessler Posted 5:24 am
    12 Nov 2006

    I agree that symbols matter ...... but in my opinion the most important thing the U.S. can do is simply state that we are going to reduce emissions as part of a KP follow-on agreement.  While ratifying KP at this point would have some symbolic advantages, the clear cost for the U.S. far outweigh these, in my opinion.
    I don't think credibility is a problem for the U.S. George Bush has NEVER said he's going to reduce emissions, so you cannot accuse him of breaking agreements.  If he says we will reduce emissions, I think the rest of the world has to take him seriously.
    Regards.

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    Biodiversivist Posted 6:17 am
    12 Nov 2006

    I got ya, DrewWe can reduce carbon emissions without Kyoto. We can introduce our own plan that will mesh with whatever happens in 2012. Citizens might be more willing to accept a plan they see as being American made, and just maybe, we can come up with a better one using Kyoto as an example of what not to do.
    What we need is a major non-partisan think tank to advise the politicians. Burning corn ethanol in SUVs is not my idea of progress.

    In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com
  6. bookerly Posted 6:40 pm
    12 Nov 2006

    Worth a Try

       My concern is over whether we can come up with something that will mesh with what everyone else is doing if we aren't talking to them.
       As the biggest source of the problem, the US can be very helpful by co-operating with others... or not.
       It would be interesting to hear what various international sources think.
    patrick
  7. enviroarts Posted 8:29 am
    13 Nov 2006

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