Arctic expert predicts I will win $1000 this year 3

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   Pangolin Posted 10:12 am
   04 Mar 2008

   You'll be able to buy a candy bar!!Because at the rate the dollars dropping and the cost of food is rising that's about what $1000 will get you. That and once you factor in the inevitable crop losses due to climate disruption.
   
    
   
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   stockypig Posted 11:30 pm
   04 Mar 2008

   Artic Sea IceDavid Adam, environment correspondent The Guardian, Wednesday September 5 2007
   Dr Serreze said: "If you asked me a couple of years ago when the Arctic could lose all of its ice, then I would have said 2100, or 2070 maybe. But now I think that 2030 is a reasonable estimate. It seems that the Arctic is going to be a very different place within our lifetimes, and certainly within our children's lifetimes."
   The new figures show that sea ice extent is currently down to 4.4m square kilometres (1.7m square miles) and still falling. The previous record low was 5.3m square kilometres in September 2005. From 1979 to 2000 the average sea ice extent was 7.7m square kilometres. The minimum extent of sea ice usually occurs late in September each year, as the freezing Arctic winter begins to bite.
   The sea ice usually then begins to freeze again over the winter. But Dr Serreze said that would be difficult this year. "This summer we've got all this open water and added heat going into the ocean. That is going to make it much harder for the ice to grow back. What we've seen this year sets us up for an even worse year next year." The winter ice has already failed to make up for increased losses in the summer in each of the last two years.
   Christopher Booker's Notebook
   
   By Christopher Booker
   
   GMT 04/02/2008
   
   Last autumn the BBC and others could scarcely contain their excitement in reporting that the Arctic ice was melting so fast there would soon be none left.
   Sea ice cover had shrunk to the lowest level ever recorded. But for some reason the warmists are less keen on the latest satellite findings, reported by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on the website Cryosphere Today by the University of Illinois.
   This body is committed to warmist orthodoxy and contributes to the work of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Yet its graph of northern hemisphere sea ice area, which shows the ice shrinking from 13,000 million sq km to just 4 million from the start of 2007 to October, also shows it now almost back to 13 million sq km.
   
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   6degrees Posted 1:30 pm
   05 Mar 2008

   Olav knows iceI believe Olav could be right. The currents are changing.  More warm water in coming into the Arctic from the N. Atlantic.  A lot of the old multi-year ice is being flushed into the Fram Strait off Greenland (even during winter months) . This past winter was devastating to the Arctic ice because a lot of the multi-year ice was lost even though there was good coverage in terms of thin ice.  The albedo has taken a big hit because the ice is so thin now and will melt rapidly.  Olav has 30 years of experience as a glaciologist.  Obviously, he is aware of many more of the variables than the average person who checks the Cryosphere Today stat sheet.  I'll not be surprised if Olav is correct.  
    

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