A greener city with less red tape

Is required green development smart public policy? 15

Here's a potentially good idea about which I'm rather ambivalent: rules requiring in-city developers to include robust landscaping features such as green roofs and vegetation-covered walls. It's easy on the eyes, but it may not be smart public policy.

To begin with, it's unclear how much burden Seattle's cutting-edge new rules would impose; and it's unclear how much benefit they'd achieve. But if most developers are skeptical -- and they are, at least according to this article -- then policymakers should listen very carefully.

Burdening developers with additional layers of regulatory complexity, especially here in regulation-heavy Seattle, may not be such a hot idea. Those regulations tend to reduce the viability of further in-city development or raise the cost. Either is bad.

No, I haven't been reading Milton Friedman over the holidays. It's just that when it comes to urban development, I'm not sure that we need a lot of elaborate new policies and procedures. In some case, we simply need less red tape.

Here's why ...

The most environmentally sensitive thing we can do in urban design is encourage more density in places that allow us to live lighter on the land. That means giving people an opportunity to live, work, and do business in places where tennis shoes substitute for gas tanks. (Generally, those are also places where people consume less land and also use less energy heating and lighting their homes.) To encourage that sort of environmentally beneficent way of living, the smartest public policy may be to to slash well-intentioned but unnecessary obstacles to development. Minimum parking requirements leap to mind. There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, of others.

Construction costs are already spiking and urban affordability is already a serious problem. Sprawl is accelerating in places where land is cheap and regulations are minimal. So unless we have a really good reason (and there certainly are some) we should avoid making it more expensive to build commercial real estate or multi-family housing in urban areas.

I guess I should mention that I'm hardly opposed to green design for managing stormwater runoff or to achieve other benefits. (In fact, I've been semi-obsessed with the issue lately.) In many cases, environmentally friendly design may actually be cheaper and more efficient than conventional alternatives. Trees can cut down on air conditioning; swales can ease drainage loads; and studies have shown that urban vegetation has social and economic benefits too.

So there's all that. But some policies have unintended consequences that may actually be counterproductive; and getting a handful of green roofs is not worth discouraging development in pedestrian-friendly neighborhoods.

Let's call it the Ockham's Razor of environmental policymaking: sometimes the smartest thing we can do for the environment may also be the simplest.

Eric de Place is a senior research at Sightline Institute, a Seattle-based sustainability think tank, working on promoting smart policy decisions for the Pacific Northwest. Visit http://daily.sightline.org/daily_score to read more on Sightline’s blog.

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  1. Biodiversivist's avatar

    Biodiversivist Posted 5:09 am
    04 Jan 2007

    Boy, I'm with you.Seattle is very regulation-heavy and getting more so every single day. I have a neighbor with a green roof on his chicken coop. Once the Seattle rains saturate it (in about 30 minutes), the runoff amount for the rest of the winter is the same as any other roof. Also the very dry summers in Seattle necessitate watering most gardens or they will die and go to seed. So that is what will happen to almost all of the these projects. English ivy, blackberries (rat food) and other invasive weeds typically take over those places in the end (including green roofs, which would make really safe, warm, rat warrens), unless the city pays people to maintain them.
    I suggest that the city needs a new law that would require removing an old law before they can make a new one (of course, my proposed law would  be the first one the bureaucrats would eliminate) /:)
    From the article:
    To understand the thinking behind the new rules, consider the forests that occupied this land before they were cleared to make room for city development, suggested Steve Moddemeyer, a senior adviser with the city's Department of Planning and Development.
    In such a forest, rainfall first hits the tallest trees, sticking to needles and bark. Then it might trickle down onto vine maples, still 15 feet or more above the ground. Next, it drips down onto salal, a leathery native shrub. From there, it drops onto ground-covering plants such as moss and kinnikinnick. Then, it drains its way through organic debris before reaching the soil. In a thick, old forest, the whole process can take 30 days.
    In the city, it takes only a few minutes for rainfall hitting sidewalks, streets, parking lots and other impervious surfaces to pour into storm and sewer drains -- often bringing street pollutants in its wake.
    "That distinction drives a lot of costs for sewer and drainage systems and even for creek restoration, because you have this kind of water that roars into the systems," Moddemeyer said. By contrast, thick forest vegetation has so much surface area, much of the water evaporates or is absorbed.


    Seattle is a city, not an old growth forest. It is highly unlikely that this idea will make any measurable difference in creek restoration efforts or certainly in any cost savings. People are free to make gardens and green roofs, let's not force them on the citizenry.

    In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
  2. willa Posted 6:09 am
    04 Jan 2007

    green roofsPersonally, I've always been skeptical of green roofs.  It's a nice idea in theory, but...well, I don't really want to encourage water to stay on my roof.  A frequently-soaked roof is a soon-leaky roof.  The only dirt roofs I know of that work well are the ones on Pueblo and Spanish Colonial buildings (the real ones, not the "pueblo-style" ones), and that's because they are (a) in the desert, and (b) plastered smooth and sloped so the water runs off.  If they're growing a garden, it's a sign that maintenance is needed.
    I say, put solar panels or something on the roof, and use the storm water somewhere else for irrigation.  Although, of course, it's not a great idea to replace all the madatory parking spaces with mandatory parks, either, as nice an idea as that seems (and if you don't believe me on this, read Jane Jacobs).
  3. sunflower's avatar

    sunflower Posted 6:33 am
    04 Jan 2007



    Dixie under grass
    About twenty years ago our famous Atomic Energy Agency chief and Fox Island neighbor, Governor Dixie Lee Ray, advocated grass on roofs to combat global warming.  It was conservative code and in-your-face cynicism aimed at environmentalists worried about global warming, in short, a mean spirited joke.  Everybody knew that planting grass does nothing to mitigate global warming.  How this disinformation became city policy is an indication of the trouble we are in.  It just plain nuts.
  4. Eric de Place's avatar

    Eric de Place Posted 7:01 am
    04 Jan 2007

    Dixie's jokeSunflower,

    In defense of Seattle's new proposed rules, green roofs are not intended to combat global warming. That's pretty obviously nuts. Instead, they're intended to manage stormwater runoff by replacing impervious surface (roofs) with pervious natural drainage (soil and water-hungry plants). Stormwater runoff is a fairly serious ecological problem in the Puget Sound region and it's often considered the single biggest threat to our marine environment. My concern with Seattle's rules is simply that the best way to reduce impervious surface is probably to encourage dense development and discourage low density sprawl with the roads, parking lots, and large roof areas per person that it entails.
  5. Biodiversivist's avatar

    Biodiversivist Posted 7:17 am
    04 Jan 2007

    "Intended" is the key wordInstead, they're "intended" to manage stormwater runoff by replacing impervious surface (roofs) with pervious natural drainage (soil and water-hungry plants).
    But in Seattle, it hardly rains in the summer, which is when grass planted in four inches of soil could absorb water (although not much of it). Instead, it rains day in and day out all winter long. The plants and four inches of soil absorb next to no water in the winter once saturated. A lawn or garden in Terra firma on the other hand slows water down and allows it to percolate into several feet of soil. A green roof does a poor job of emulating a forest floor, especially in Seattle, where it drizzles endlessly instead of having the occasional thunderstorm.

    In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
  6. sunflower's avatar

    sunflower Posted 7:18 am
    04 Jan 2007

    Flushing sewers with rain water.I am not opposed to green roofs, especially vegetable gardens.  But I think grass roofs have roots in earlier times.  
    We had two feet of rain the last two months.  And Tacoma dumped her sewage into Puget Sound during the wind storm power outage.  I have suspended my kayak routines.  Gig Harbor has a straight pipe dumping sewage every day, and pays the fines because that is cheaper than building a treatment plant.  
    Puget Sound systems handling sewage and runoff are problems green roofs will not solve.
  7. caractacus Posted 7:32 am
    04 Jan 2007

    UmmmIt seems a very odd idea to suggest that increased urban density is favourable to sustainability.
    A big part of the problem is that the land is getting managed industrially because people aren't where they need to be to take care of it properly.
    See for example.
    http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/interviews/583
  8. Laurence Aurbach Posted 8:38 am
    04 Jan 2007

    per capitaI thought the justification for green roofs was longer-lasting roofs, better insulating qualities and reduction of heat island effect. They do need maintenance, though. It's a poor idea to mandate a system that requires ongoing maintenance to function. Without enthusiastic committment on the part of the property owner, maintenance is the first thing to be cut.
    Sometimes large companies support onerous preconditions and standards to keep the smaller competitors out of the picture. I don't know if green roofs are in that category.
    Green roofs may not solve flooding and runoff, but LID techniques sure can, as this press release boasts:
    December 11, 2006
    Pringle Creek's Full-Scale Porous Pavement System Flies Through Wettest Month in Oregon History
    Eco-consious developers celebrate success of nation's largest "green street" system
    SALEM, Ore. - According to the National Weather Service, Oregon experienced record-breaking rainfall throughout the month of November. The Portland metro area received 11.61 inches while Salem alone received more than 15 inches. Yet while many regional streets and sidewalks flooded as a result of clogged storm drains, Pringle Creek Community -- a 32-acre sustainable living community located in the Willamette Valley -- cruised through the month without flooding due to the success of its state-of-the-art porous pavement or "green street" system.
    "It seems a very odd idea to suggest that increased urban density is favourable to sustainability."
    The key is per capita impact. The EPA publication Protecting Water Resources with Higher-Density Development has a very easy to understand explantion.
    Low density suburbs and rural farms have significant water pollution impacts. In some cases worse than an equal area of urban development.
  9. caractacus Posted 8:58 am
    04 Jan 2007

    Yes but ...That's if you're assuming something approximating to standard US suburbs are the only possible way to produce low density housing on the peri-urban fringe. I'm not assuming that, because that's a daft way to house humans.
    I've read yours, are you going to read mine?
  10. caractacus Posted 9:03 am
    04 Jan 2007

    Framing the debateWhat I'm getting at is that studies like that frame the debate as being between two unattrative versions of business as usual. Rather than including the possibility of actually trying to do things right.
    It's very clear that suburbs and half-arsed industrial agriculture are going to make a big mess, but to me the search for alternatives should probably go beyond high density urban plus slightly more efficient industral agriculture.
    There are plenty of models that look much more attractive, and I simply don't think we should allow ourselves to be locked into the business as usual choices in such important matters.
  11. Laurence Aurbach Posted 9:59 am
    04 Jan 2007

    sustainability on a spectrumI recently blogged about a few alternative models that are now underway: TNDs With Agriculture.
    Folke Günther's re-ruralisation concept reminds me in some ways of the Sky development in Calhoun County, FL... although it's not clear yet to what extent the agriculture will be based on permaculture principles. The development won preliminary, unanimous approval from the county commissioners on Dec. 21, 2006.
    I don't agree with Günther that emptying out cities is necessary or desirable. Various people prefer a variety of living environments, on a spectrum from farms to city centers. Each point on the spectrum has pros and cons in terms of potential sustainability. I think most of them have the potential for a high level of sustainability.
  12. jscorse Posted 10:19 am
    04 Jan 2007

    I strongly agree.not everything needs to be heavy-handed and there are plenty of market incentives for green business already

    J.S.



    htt://voicesofreason.info
  13. caractacus Posted 10:38 am
    04 Jan 2007

    Market principles and the phosphorous cycleHow are market principles going to prevent phosphorous from leaching away into the ocean?
    I'm genuinely interested to know.
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    Gar Lipow Posted 12:52 pm
    04 Jan 2007

    How about light pink tape?The problem with this regulation is that it specifies means, not ends. Green roofs are not the object: they are the means of meeting certain goals. You want to reduce energy consumption? Limit the maximum climate control energy a building may use person (based on average utilization). You want to limit storm water drainage? Limit that as well.
    Let the builder or owner or manager or whoever is responsible decide the best means of meeting those goals. If green roofs is the answer they choose, fine.
  15. Eric de Place's avatar

    Eric de Place Posted 2:40 am
    05 Jan 2007

    More thoughtsSome additional thoughtful comments worth reading over at the Daily Score, where this was first posted. In particular, I think Dan Bertolet's point (#3) may be a TKO.
    http://www.sightline.org/daily_score/archive/2007/01/03/a...

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