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   Delay And Deny Posted 1:46 pm
   08 Feb 2009

   You Bug Me
   
   Now it will be harder for me to enjoy a Coke in summertime with all the bees plus yellowjackets buzzing around.
   And don't talk to me about ice cream cones...
   
   Obama The Vapor President ?!?

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   amazingdrx Posted 2:03 pm
   08 Feb 2009

   ExcellentThanks for the good news Erik.  Beehives in backyards, that really is encouraging.
   Hmmm, maybe someone could alert jab's neighbors to get some africanized bees, hehey.
   
   http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

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   Erik Hoffner Posted 9:05 am
   09 Feb 2009

   niceNow that's not very nice, DrX. Play nice.
   
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   EcoMingler Posted 9:49 am
   09 Feb 2009

   Excellent newsNow if we can only get more cities to allow small urban livestock, so that people can provide themselves with their own eggs and goat milk...
   
   Holly from http://www.SustainableSuppers.com

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   archigeek Posted 1:01 am
   10 Feb 2009

   Ha...Here in the City of St. Louis, I've seen chickens in some yards, and heard them in others. Not entirely common at all, but they are there nonetheless. Oh, and there is a lady in Clayton (near 'burb, wealthy and a downtown with many high-rise buildings) who keeps chickens in her back yard. She sells the eggs and she also raises honey-bees, and of course, their tasty product. Along with bee pollen and beeswax candles, many formed from German molds. Really interesting person. Belongs to a world that really doesn't exist anymore.
   
   The mellotron is your friend.

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   denverurbangardens Posted 6:40 am
   11 Feb 2009

   Ordinance hearingThanks Erik for the mention!  If you want to see how the Denver City Council meeting went, check out this blog that has condensed the 2 hour meeting to a 5 minute video.
   http://denverdirect.blogspot.com/2008/11/bee-keeping-in-d ...
   Laura

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   Erik Hoffner Posted 9:47 am
   11 Feb 2009

   sweetLaura, thanks, the video is inspiring, hilarious, and educational, all with a soundtrack. Never saw such an interesting council meeting. Some of those council members were truly impressed with the gardeners and beekeepers that testified...
   Erik
   
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   organicjewelry Posted 4:42 am
   13 Feb 2009

   riskyPlease keep in mind having urban backyard beehives is a life-threatening proposal to your neighbors who may, like myself, have severe allergic reactions to certain species of bee stings.  While I understand the huge importance of bee pollination, I would propose that a variance of some sort should be required before an urban beehive could be installed to ensure that neighbors in the immediate vicinity would not be put under undue risk of death due to the much higher proportion of the little guys who would be present than if a hive was not intentionally installed.

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   caniscandida Posted 6:40 am
   14 Feb 2009

   people allergies, bee deathsThis needs work.  As suggested by OrganicJewelry, allergic reaction to bee stings is an issue worth considering (of course, bees do not automatically sting, willy-nilly; they only sting if provoked in defense of their home).  And in general, "living with bees" is ethically deficient if all that means is a happy uncomplicated way of exploiting them for human purposes.
   (Thanks, Amazing, for bringing this to my attention.)
   
   Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

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    amazingdrx Posted 5:20 pm
    14 Feb 2009

    Good to see you CanisI hadn't considered that angle.  I suppose that would be a problem.  A lot of emergency bee sting injectors wouldhave to be distributed to people who are allergic.
    It's more symbiotic with bees, they have a lot of success working with us, just like dogs.  You can have the right feeling for your animal allies.  My chicken sings every morning, before she gets out of her warm nest to have a bite to eat in the winter air.
    Bees are wonderful buzzing and humming around you when you open the hive.  No stings, no smoke, no bee hat, just do it on a sunny afternoon, they are very happy then, too busy to get angry.
    Of course I haven't tried it with africanized bees.
    
    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

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    GothamBees Posted 6:16 am
    15 Feb 2009

    Same Thing Going On In New York City There is currently a bill before the NYC City
    
    Council to legalize beekeeping so a formerly very
    
    low-profile set of people have gone public and
    
    put up a web site:
    Gotham City Honey Co-Op
    where signatures on an web-based "petition" are
    
    being solicited.
    
    

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    Erik Hoffner Posted 9:06 am
    15 Feb 2009

    good to knowThanks for the note about that, Gotham. Good luck!
    Canis, the 'exploitative' relationship you imply is a bit overdone (even vegetarians that eschew honey have to admit that they need lots of bees pollinating plant crops for them). This would be more true of the truck-farm hives, where the bees are moved in trailers to new orchards all the time, but hardly in a setting like this, where the presence of metro bees is largely constrained by lack of shelter, habitat and forage. If someone wants to bring in a sheltering hive near where flowers and urban gardens grow, what harm could the bees perceive in that?
    All domesticated animals and plants have allowed themselves to be domesticated. There are lots which have not. Many kinds of mushrooms and medicinal plants refuse to grow outside of their natural settings, for eg.
    I agree that certainly neighbors should be consulted when a new hive is proposed for siting. If the neighbor is allergic, common sense would dictate that this is not an appropriate site.
    Erik
    
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    wesrolley Posted 1:47 pm
    16 Feb 2009

    You missed a good referenceI just joined the California Rare Fruit Growers.. and I have met a few in my day... and our first meeting introduced me to this UC Berkeley site.
    
    Wes Rolley
    
    
    
    CoChair - EcoAction Committee
    
    Green Party US

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    Erik Hoffner Posted 1:13 am
    17 Feb 2009

    gotchaWes: aha, I caught you not checking all the links in my post religiously. Had you, you'd see that the excellent link you point to is the same one as the last one in the original post.
    But the more the merrier: it's a great site and important practice that I hope more urban folks in CA and elsewhere take up, encouraging urban/native bees.
    Erik
    
    The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, & more
    
    

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    Erik Hoffner Posted 12:21 am
    23 Feb 2009

    UKAnd from across the Pond, an effort in the UK to encourage beekeeping by farms and private individuals...
    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/plan-bee-launched ...
     
    
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    PermieWriter Posted 3:19 am
    23 Feb 2009

    Mason beesMason bees, a native bee that does not make excess honey like the honeybee, is very easy to introduce to your garden. They are also non-stinging so you won't need to worry about your neighbor dying, if they're allergic and fail to carry an epi-pen (would that make their death a suicide?). Most municipalities require you to get a permit before installing a honeybee hive, and that will include checking in with neighbors (which you'd do anyway, right?).
    Like introducing any organism into your space, one needs to take a look at their requirements. If you dump a cannister of lady bugs into your garden and have only a few aphids, you're going to be waving good-bye to your $50 in short order (the answer is to plant lots of yarrow, lady bugs will eat the pollen when their prey is in short supply, thus hanging around for that next outbreak). Before introducing bees, plant a bunch of nectar-heavy plants and you can be sure they won't head for greener pastures.
    
    Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

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    caniscandida Posted 4:35 am
    02 Mar 2009

    rights for invertebrates?My dear friend Erik wrote (a long time ago, but I am giving myself a snow day today, and so have a few precious minutes to look in on animal-related matters in Grist):
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    All domesticated animals and plants have allowed themselves to be domesticated.
    
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    Way lacking in nuance, kid.  For starters, plants, and non-human animals, are not the sort of creatures that can "allow themselves" to do anything.  Every one of them is a slave.
    To be sure, many of them are comfortable in their servitude, and even incapable of living on their own, such as Little White Dog, curled up on a pile of soft towels just a few feet from where I sit.
    And many species are much more populous, i.e. there are many more individual members, thanks to cooperation with human beings.
    But that is hardly the same as "success," nor is it the result of anything like free choice.  Consider the fate just of chickens, to say nothing of all the other domesticated vertebrates: there are billions of them, sure, but does that count as success, when those billions are consigned to horribly miserable lives and frightful deaths?
    Anyway, back to the interesting business of bees:
    Animal-rights absolutists, a very boring lot, however fine their intentions, MUST be set apart from those of us who are animal-rights ethicists, who consider these matters with an appreciation of philosophy, history and science.  "Hands off that honey, Honey!  {You bitch!}," say the former, unhesitatingly, unblinkingly and unabashedly.  "Ummm ... let me look this up in this reference book ... ," say I.
    We all agree (I think) that all vertebrates are sentient creatures who therefore merit ethical regard (fish being the most overlooked).  But it gets interesting when we enter into the various taxa of "invertebrates" (that feckless term!).  How sorry are we supposed to feel at the destruction of a jellyfish, or a sea star?  Well, perhaps not very much, but at least let us pause to think about life, about organisms, and about how easily systems of molecules can fail.
    Molluscs are one taxon worth examining carefully.  Being a big fan of cephalopods (octopuses, squids, cuttlefish), and almost as big a fan of gastropods (snails, slugs), I have no problem saying they are sentient, and merit ethical regard.  But bivalves (clams, oysters) are another matter, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" never having been a favorite poem of mine.  And yet, should I give those poor little oysters, tripping along in their little shoes, another chance?
    Arthropods (including Insects, including Bees) are another fascinating taxon, being closely related to us vertebrates, and exhibiting behavior (fear-motivated, pain-motivated) very similar to our own.
    On page 179 of her excellent, painful-to-read book "Thanking the Monkey," Karen Dawn writes:
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    Our taste for bee regurgitations is bad news for bees, about a billion of whom have traditionally been exterminated every year by the honey industry.  [There is a footnote here, referencing "Drawing the Line: Science and the Case for Animal Rights," by Steven M. Wise.]  At the end of the season it is not worthwhile for the farmers to winterize the hives -- it is often considered easier to burn them, and start again next season.  THAT is how we thank the honey-makers.
    
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    So, as Evita sings: Where do we go from here?  This isn't where we intended to be ...
    
    Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

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