Shaun of the grid

A chat with Obama’s green-leaning liaison to the states, Boulder Mayor Shaun McGrath 7

Shaun McGrath

Shaun McGrath.

As we reported on Thursday, the Obama administration has scooped up Shaun McGrath, the green mayor of Boulder, Colo., to serve as the deputy director of intergovernmental affairs within the White House.

McGrath has been mayor of Boulder since 2007 and a city council member since 2003. He has also worked on environmental issues for the Western Governors’ Association since 1995. It was under his leadership that Boulder set out to become the first smart-grid city in the country. Voters there also approved the country’s first carbon tax in 2006, and the city has been recognized with a platinum-level “bicycle-friendly community” award from the League of American Bicyclists. Pretty frickin’ green, eh?

We tracked McGrath down to find out what he’ll be doing in his new gig, which starts on Feb. 9.

Grist: What exactly will your role be in the White House?

Shaun McGrath: It’s in the White House Office of Intergovernmental Affairs. The office is the president’s liaison to state and local elected officials, and I will be the deputy director responsible for liaising between the president and the nation’s governors.

Grist: You’ve been active on green issues in Boulder. What do you hope to be able to do with that experience in your new role at the White House?

McGrath: Well, first I should say that I’ll be working on the president’s priorities and his agenda, and that could cover the gambit of issues. That said, he has clearly pointed to energy issues and climate change as being very important to his administration, so I expect that would possibly be an area that I could be involved in, particularly since those are issues that are very important to the governors as well.

Grist: A lot of the significant work we’ve seen on climate and energy has been coming from municipalities, mayors, and governors. What do you think you’ll bring to this position from your experience working with governors and as mayor?

McGrath: In Boulder we have been looking at how to reduce our climate emissions for a while now, and we adopted a Climate Action Plan a few years back, and passed a carbon tax to help pay for programs to meet that goal. So we’ve had some experience there that may be somewhat ahead of where others are and may be something that I can bring to the discussion when it comes up.

Boulder is also becoming the first smart-grid city in the world, actually, which has of course modernized the way we provide and consume energy. And that is something that the president has also identified as a priority in his energy plans.

Grist: Nationally, what do you think should be the priorities in getting smart-grid programs kicked off?

McGrath: I think what is important is to really invest in the infrastructure that’s going to be needed to put in smart meters, to put in the different equipment that’s needed to have the two-way communication between the utility and the homeowner or business, the consumer of the energy.

But there’s also a need for education. For smart grid to be successful, it’s really going to take behavioral change at some level, so I think it’s important to remember that the education component should be part of it.

Grist: Through the Western Governors’ Association, you’ve worked with governors on their state priorities. This week we saw progress on one of those state priorities with President Obama’s order that the EPA reconsider whether California should get a waiver to set tough auto-emissions standards. What are some of the things you think should be done at the federal level to support state initiatives?

McGrath: The president has made some strong overtures to state and local governments, that he really does see the importance of partnerships with state and local governments, and he is already putting that in action. I find it very encouraging that the president really wants to reach out to governors and mayors and figure out what their needs are on a regional level, because clearly the needs of the Western states are different from the needs of the Southern and Eastern states in some cases. I think this is very important for the country.

Grist: What are some of the experiences you’ve had in Boulder that you hope will be influential in your work at the federal level?

McGrath: Well, I’m going back there to work for the president, so I’m not coming into the office trying to replicate Boulder’s successes nationally. But I certainly will ... I’ll just leave it at that.

Kate Sheppard is Grist’s political reporter.

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  1. Erik Hoffner's avatar

    Erik Hoffner Posted 6:44 am
    30 Jan 2009

    zero wasteMr. McGrath: speaking of bringing wide impact green ideas from Boulder to DC, why not tell the President about EcoCycle and their pioneering work on 'zero waste?'
    http://www.ecocycle.org/zero/index.cfm
    Erik

    The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, & more

  2. Patrick Mazza Posted 7:25 am
    30 Jan 2009

    Boulder Clean Energy District - Go national!Boulder this past election funded a visionary clean energy district.  Voters passed a municipal bond to fund deep energy efficiency retrofits and related energy improvements.  Not just low hanging fruit, but the whole enchilada.  Hope Shaun carries these ideas into the White House.

    Patrick Mazza
  3. ce1907 Posted 10:30 pm
    30 Jan 2009

    western governors assngreen?
    dig deeper
  4. amazingdrx Posted 12:27 am
    31 Jan 2009

    Education yes!

    ...to put in the different equipment that's needed to have the two-way communication between the utility and the homeowner or business, the consumer of the energy.
    But there's also a need for education.


    Excellent choice Barack!  This highlights the education needed.  Communication is between and among smart grid computers that control each building, vehicle, and generation source.  It is not simply two-way communication, it consists of distributed computing, that is why internet over the power grid should be part of smart grid build out.
    I wonder how Boulder's smart grid is progressing?  Any Boulder residents out there care to comment and illuminate this fascinating development?  How about Austin's open source smart grid project?
    This is no time for a the typical mass delusional media news blackout on green technology.



    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin
  5. amazingdrx Posted 9:48 am
    31 Jan 2009

    Grist we implore youGet some onsite smart grid reporters in Boulder and Austin to delve into this under covered part of the green revolution.  The kind who will go to all the meetings and talk to consumers and utility engineers alike.  That would rule!

    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin
  6. ce1907 Posted 10:16 am
    31 Jan 2009

    I am with you, AmznI am a little nervous about the "demonstrations" because they seem necessarily narrow
    a certain technology tried somewhere
    I am not sure how it advances the ball when the basic computer standard issues (at about 8 separate levels of function) are so uncertain
    as I have carped before, those standards seem like the key, and to me they are on the slow track, waiting for industry to sort it out and then for the govt (NIST, then FERC) to bless what industry says
    but different industry players have different interests, naturally, so no quick solution is on the horizon, as far as I can see
    I think a vigorous intervention on the standards stuff is needed (computer geeks, save us!)
    and then massive Fed purchasing of equipment to make it real
    as far as I can tell, that is the only way that Stopgreenpath's vision of small, local solar generation could work
    where are the damn geeks when you need them
    NOW they can get dates
  7. amazingdrx Posted 2:46 pm
    31 Jan 2009

    NarrowThe Austin project is intresting ce, they are opening it up to all experimenters it seems, at least t first.
    Xcel is doing the Boulder project, they are leaders in wind and have a utility scale battery storage system going in Minnesota.
    We'll see how this develops, but I think Cisco getting into it will tend to work towards standardized switching equipment and software, just as it did in internet switching and routing equipment.
    The software end of it should make for interesting distributed computing networks, the standardized switching can be adapted to fractally designed systems that make every device that is interconnected swim like an individual fish in a whole school.  Taking it's cues from its fellow fishes to make the smart grid operate swimmingly under the widest variation of conditions.

    http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

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