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Biden’s Middle Class Task Forces asks some tough questions about green jobs 2

At the first meeting of the Middle Class Task Force on Friday, Vice President Joe Biden celebrated the progress on a new, green economy kicked off by the stimulus package, and called for continued efforts to create more jobs that “keep up with 21st century needs and lower energy costs.” But his cabinet members also came with some tough questions about what it will take to create good, green jobs.

“We’re making unprecedented investments in economic recovery in this country, and unprecedented investments in green energy,” said Biden, who emphasized that these “green jobs” benefit more than just the people who will get them. “More green jobs mean more money in the wallet of everyone in America ... It lowers your monthly bill and lowers the strain on your budget.”

He was joined at today’s meeting by Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Secretary of Agriculture Thomas Vilsack, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan, Labor Secretary-designate Hilda Solis, and director of the White House Domestic Policy Council Melody Barnes. (One notable absence was White House Energy and Climate adviser Carol Browner, who was listed as a speaker but was nowhere to be seen.)

The summit was also, in part, aimed at showing the public that the agencies are coordinating on efforts to follow through on green jobs promises.

One such inter-agency partnership was announced at today’s summit, between the Department of Energy and the Department of Housing and Urban Development. The two departments are working together to streamline and coordinate federal weatherization efforts with a high-level interagency task force, making it easier to access the $16 billion for the weatherization of low-income homes included in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

“This partnership will help build an industry and save or create thousands of jobs,” said Donovan. “In addition to saving and creating jobs, we have an opportunity to make our affordable housing stock, as well as all housing, energy efficient with the funds provided through the president’s recovery plan.”

While attendees at the summit spent plenty of time talking up the virtues of the stimulus package and the idea of green jobs for the middle class, much of it focused on addressing some of the challenges to creating and sustaining those jobs, and making sure they’re good jobs. Biden sought to emphasize that point. “This is not just something we’re throwing money at,” he said. “This is a serious, serious undertaking.”

One important point—raised by United Steelworkers President Leo Gerard—is that green jobs aren’t inherently un-exportable. Biden earlier had remarked that these are “good, high-paying jobs, the vast majority of which are not exportable.” But as Gerard noted, lots of jobs manufacturing parts for windmills and solar panels could be done at a lower cost overseas, moved offshore like past manufacturing jobs. “I think it would be a tragedy if we moved to a green economy and we did it with imported parts,” said Gerard, noting the need for trade policies that protect the jobs government plans to invest in. “I’m not anti-trade. But I want it to be fair, and I want the new economy to be the American economy.”

Van Jones, president of Green for All, brought the message that there needs to be a concerted effort to make sure these jobs go to the people who need them most and have been left out of previous economic booms. Jones, as he seems to do so often, brought the house to their feet with applause with his call to “green the ghetto first.” “Give those kids on the corner the opportunity to put down the handguns and pickup a caulking gun instead,” said Jones.

Many other serious concerns about the green economy were raised over the summit, which was held at the University of Pennsylvania. Labor Secretary Hilda Solis raised the gender implications of wide scale investment in these jobs, since the image of a green collar worker is so often a man in a hard hat. Jones said that this, too, needs to be considered in policymaking—and that women can be part of the transformation as well, whether as solar installers or as entrepreneurs, green tech designers, and engineers.

Another good question, from White House Domestic Policy Council Melody Barnes, was how this transition will affect mid-career workers. It’s easier for young people just entering the workforce to enter new fields, but more difficult for older workers to learn new skills or change to entirely different fields. Center for American Progress President and Obama transition chief John Podesta argued that many of these jobs will be in traditional industries, but with a greener bent. “Lots of these are familiar jobs, moving from building homes to retrofitting homes,” said Podesta.

Several panelists and cabinet members also expressed concerns shared by many that these jobs aren’t necessarily high-paying, union jobs, and called for high standards when it comes to worker training programs. Many also raised questions about just how fast green jobs can be funded, citing concerns about how long and bureaucratic the process for securing Department of Energy funds has been in recent years.

“Week number one in office, we took a hard look at why it was taking so long,” said Chu. “Now we see many areas where we can improve on getting the money out the door. We think we can reduce what took maybe 4 years to 4 to 5 months ... We’re pretty serious about this.”

How serious? Guess we’ll wait and see. As for the Middle Class Task Force, Biden pledged today that they’ll meet every month for the next year to focus not just on green jobs but on other measures to restore the middle class.

“One of the things the president asked me to do is make sure our administration is saddled up and ready to go,” said Biden. “We want to figure out how we can responsibly and transparently put a lot of resources into moving this economy along and creating green jobs.”

Kate Sheppard is Grist’s political reporter.

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  1. JosephThePoet Posted 5:34 am
    28 Feb 2009

    Obama's Wasted Stimulus OpportunityObama is acting just like every other politician.  His stimulus is about buying favoritism instead of doing what is right.  The full dollar amount should have been spent to put people to work and to strengthen the country.  Wasting so much of it on tax breaks, and regular budget issues, is simply the usual political vote purchasing.  By including the tax breaks he is saying that the 95% of the population that he claims is going to receive the tax breaks are so greedy and selfish that they demand an extra $15.00 per pay as the country takes on even more debt in these troublesome economic times.  Apparently Americans are not willing to continue to pay the same tax rate they currently do as the country's debt is increased to try to save the country because they are not the patriotic people who love their country or who care about their children's debt or futures that they claim to be.  And telling people that don't have an income, or who are about to lose their income, that they can pay less tax on what they don't or won't have is just more political fallacy anyway not an economic stimulus.
    Propping up banks or homeowners is not the answer either.  If that huge pile of borrowed money is put into the economy quickly in manufacturing and construction employment then the banks will be tripping over each other to get their share so credit will flow from them too, and people who are employed can afford to make their mortgage payments and will support other businesses.  Most people will not get help to keep their homes even under his plan, so it makes more sense to give all the people a better future opportunity so they all might in the future be able to buy a home under smarter terms.  And, small businesses first and foremost need people to support them, because being told they can pay a lesser tax rate on no income from the unemployed won't keep them in business.
    Cleaner and locally produced energy and its continent wide distribution is THE PRIORITY NEED of the country RIGHT NOW!!!  The current situation has presented a perfect opportunity for our "leaders" to responsibly renew the country and to promote its continued existence and the future survival of us as a supposedly intelligent race in the environment we exist in.  If we don't have energy we won't have any other of the many luxuries we currently enjoy.  If you think economic, unemployment, education and health concerns are bad now then just try to imagine how bad things will get if there is a severe lack of power available for the country.  Don't forget to add in the rioting due to the severe lack of employment, services, lighting, heating and food (especially in the cities).  Securing energy sources to power the country is more important than the large military force the US has for the security of the country.  If other countries quite supporting our debt then we at least cannot be so easily turned into a third world internally war riddled country if we cannot be deprived of our energy needs.  And changing our methods so we won't be sucking so many of the poisonous fumes that we do using our current power generating needs is what an intelligent species would do to better ensure their and their race survival.
    Try driving you car to the grocery store, school, doctor, or work if it doesn't have fuel.  Employment fuels the US consumer driven economy, and the economy is out of fuel.  It cannot do what we want it to do if it doesn't have enough fuel to operate.  The intelligent would understand that stimulating such an economy is done by putting the most people to work soonest and wisely, which is basically like cranking an engine over to start it functioning.  If someone has a heart flutter then promising them money won't help but stimulating their heart with a charge to encourage it to reset itself will.
    America currently has the perfect opportunity and the technologies to address these problems and Obama had the opportunity to start us on the right path but, like any other politician, his only concern seems to be to simply Play the "Game" or "Sport" (his own words, describing politics).
    The full dollar amount should be spent by putting the people to work on the refurbishing and rebuilding of the country's infrastructure needs.  Power, water, transportation and communication infrastructure is needed to promote and support our society and we might want to try acting like an intelligent species and think about our environmental survival requirements when engaged in our decision making.  Even a vegetable knows and does what is required to encourage its survival and the continuation of its species to function within its environmental opportunities and limitations.  Not bothering about the massive pollution we were putting into our environment and the destruction of our lands and water to only think about acting when global climate change threatens us is proof that as a species we are acting like we are brain-dead with an intelligence level below that of a vegetable.

    My first book "Life is a Puzzle" was recently published by PublishAmerica.com, under my pen name of JosephThePoet.
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    Delay And Deny Posted 5:56 am
    28 Feb 2009

    To The Bougeousie Poles!-Middle class task force one.   Middle class task force one.   This is Scout Leader, over.
    -Scout Leader, roger.
    -I see a middle class family in their backyard having a bar-b-que.   They are enjoying themselves.   They must be eating a lot of hamburgers.   They must have suplus cash on hand.
    -Roger that, Scout Leader.   We have some billionaires up here in New York City that are craving some more brandy.   That can't happen.
    -Middle Class Task Force One, we are go to use the Biden Vacuum to suck the family dry then?
    -You have go clearance.  Drain their income with stimulus taxes.
    -Begining drain now, haha, they're all running away!   Hahah, look at them!   Ok, we're draining down their wallets, pocket books and cookie jars.   We'll be back to NYC with that money quicktime!
    -You're a-ok Scout Leader.  Mission accomplished!

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