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Senators prod DOE pick Chu for his thoughts on various energy sources 6

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Barack Obama’s pick to head the Energy Department, Steven Chu, got his turn in the confirmation spotlight this morning, with senators asking him to clarify some of his previous statements on contentious energy issues like coal and nuclear power.

The hearing before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee was, for the most part, amiable, with the lawmakers warmly welcoming the Nobel Laureate physicist. But when the subject turned to Chu’s previous assertion that “Coal is my worst nightmare,” some coal-state senators got a little touchy. Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) inquired directly about the remark that’s been “ricocheting around the internet,” while others asked more in-depth questions about what coal-related policies Chu supports.

By equating coal to a nightmare, Chu said his point was, “If the world continues to use coal the way we are using it today, and the world—I mean in particular not only the United States but China, India and Russia—then it is a pretty bad dream.” He continued, “That is to say in China, for example, they have not yet begun to even trap the sulfur dioxide, nitrous oxides. There’s mercury. There’s particulate matter, as well as carbon dioxide.”

If anything, though, Chu’s remarks at the hearing likely eased the lawmakers’ fears, as he asserted that nuclear and coal will remain crucial components in the energy mix. On coal, Chu had previously said, “It’s not guaranteed that we have a solution for coal”—meaning that there is currently no proven technology to offset the C02 emissions resulting from burning coal. In today’s hearing, he softened, saying he’s “very hopeful” that carbon capture and sequester (CCS) technology is possible on a commercial scale. “I am optimistic we can figure out how to use those resources in a clean way. I’m very hopeful that this will occur and I think that we will be using that great natural resource.”

He also said he does not support a moratorium on new coal-fired plants, which advocates for climate change action like Al Gore have called for. “There are some people in the United States who feel perhaps we should turn off coal,” said Chu. “But even if we do it, China and India will not. And so we are in a position to develop those technologies so that the world can capture the carbon.”

Chu did not say explicitly whether he would continue to fund FutureGen, the $1.8 billion DOE “zero emissions” coal project that the Bush administration canned to the chagrin of it’s congressional fans (including Barack Obama).

But he was more bullish on solutions like energy efficiency as the best means of curbing the use of fossil fuels—particularly when pressed by Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wy.) about how Chu would prioritize CCS, considering there isn’t infinite federal funding. Chu pointed to the example of California, his home state, where efficiency, he said, “allows us to avoid building other power plants.”

A large portion of the senators’ questions, however, focused on nuclear energy. Chu has said in the past that he believes the country needs to develop the technology to recycle spent nuclear waste, as the political and logistical problems related to storage are insurmountable. He noted in Tuesday’s hearing that nuclear power accounts for a fifth of the nation’s electricity and 70 percent of the carbon-free electricity.

“I am supportive of the fact that the nuclear industry should have to be part of our energy mix in this century,” Chu said. “Going forward with that, we do need a plan on how to dispose of that waste safely over a long period of time,” he said.

While Chu said he supports accelerating the loan guarantee program in order “to restart the nuclear industry,” an appropriate waste recycling solution would need to be developed. “Right now, even though France has been recycling, Japan is starting to recycle, Great Britain is now beginning to look at this, I think, from my limited knowledge about that, that the processes we have are not ideal.”

The committee’s ranking Republican, Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, pressed him for more on his position on offshore oil development. Chu deferred to Obama’s position that any expansion of oil and gas drilling should be part of a broader energy plan.

“The reserves in the United States are perhaps 3 percent of the world reserves,” he said. “So while it is important to fold into this the continued development of our oil and gas resources, one also should recognize those numbers and, as you and I both agree upon, that the more efficient use of energy in the United States is the one big factor that can most help us decrease our dependency on foreign oil.”

He talked up the possibilities for “fourth generation” biofuels that come from agricultural waste, lumbermill waste, and non-food grasses. “I think we have to be very diverse. The solutions have to come from just about every sector,” he said. “I think biofuels are very important to get us off of the dependency on foreign oil. And it is not a possibility, but I think a probability that we will develop those technologies.”

Chu spoke emphatically about the need for action on climate change. “It is now clear that if we continue on our current path, we run the risk of dramatic, disruptive changes to our climate in the lifetimes of our children and our grandchildren,” said Chu.

“At the same time, we face immediate threats to our economy and our national security that stem from our dependence on oil,” he continued. “Last year’s rapid rise in oil and gasoline prices not only contributed to the recession we have—are now experiencing, but it also put a huge strain on the budgets of families all across America. Although prices are now lower, we know that the economy remains vulnerable to future price swings.”

Kate Sheppard is Grist’s political reporter.

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  1. Tasermons Partner Posted 12:09 pm
    13 Jan 2009

    That's right...lure 'em in...lower their guard...
  2. CCC Web Editor Posted 9:32 pm
    13 Jan 2009

    Chu's Bold Statements on Climate ChangeIf you want more complete look at Steve Chu's thoughts on climate beyond what Kate Sheppard quotes from the confirmation hearing, read the interview published at the website of the Copenhagen Climate Council where he said that climate change threatens the planet with "sudden, unpredictable, and irreversible disaster." http://www.copenhagenclimatecouncil.com/get-informed/news ...
    And, for a more personal look at how Chu feels about the climate change threat, watch this video where he likens the danger of global warming to "Titanic the sequel":

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA10n3Mdwcs

  3. vbstenswick Posted 9:35 pm
    13 Jan 2009

    No new coal plantsUntil carbon sequestration is reality, there should be no new coal plants built.  WOW Energies of Sugarland, TX claims to be able to upgrade existing plants for $1800/kw, versus $2500/kw for a new power plant.  They are easily the low cost option since they use waste heat as their fuel.  Also, a large number of homes in the US that currently burn fossil fuels to heat their houses could be heated with geothermal heat pumps, freeing up natural gas for electricity generation.  If the COP of the heat pump is 3.7, and the natural gas was burned in a 60% efficient combined cycle power plant, and 7% line losses, natural gas consumption would be 46% of what a 95% efficient natural gas furnace or boiler would use.  That is assuming none of the electricity comes from renewable source such as wind or solar.  I buy all of my electricity from our local 'WindSource' program.  The cost of installing a geothermal system can be kept down by following the Canadian Office of Energy Efficiency guidelines, what state that you should size it to be 60%-70% of maximum load.  I do not believe this is common practice, but I believe it to be correct after analyzing weather data from a local airport.
  4. archigeek Posted 2:46 am
    14 Jan 2009

    So...Coal 'til we find something else that the energy cos. can monopolise and dominate the markets and more subsidies for all of the old energy generating cos. I don't know, that's what I read into much of the quotes attributed to Mr. Chu. Well, I had to read between the lines. Obviously, in the minds of most of the Senators and the Obama administration there is no emergency and humanity (in addition to millions of other species) isn't in danger of extinction. So long, it's been good to know ya'...

    The mellotron is your friend.
  5. tmullins Posted 5:01 am
    14 Jan 2009

    Whoa !!!!Coal isn't the whole problem here.  We know coal will be used as an energy source, but the real sin here is how the coal is extracted.  Appalachia has been bombed, blasted and bulldozed right into Third World America.
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    Hannity shut the fuck up !
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    JMG Posted 9:30 am
    14 Jan 2009

    Nice point herePOGO notes that the comically misnamed "Department of Energy" (which would be properly known as "Department of Nuclear Weaponry" if honesty were the rule) is the elephant-that-must-not-be-named in official Washington:


    Project on Government Oversight - The Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, tasked with the confirmation hearing for Steven Chu to be Secretary of the Department of Energy, provided no information regarding Chu's plans on over two-thirds of his department's budget. According to a report by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, at least 67 percent of DOE's budget goes to nuclear weapons and weapons-related programs. This is 14 times what DOE spends on all energy-related research and development, which was the main focus of today's questions from the Committee. Dr. Chu was not asked what actions he would take to redirect DOE's $52 billion for nuclear weapons and weapons-related programs to DOE's other responsibilities: energy-related R&D; general science, space, and technology programming; nuclear security; and nonproliferation efforts. "How can the Senate confirm Dr. Chu without having heard a single thing about how he plans to run the vast majority of the Department of Energy? This is a case where the Senate has left some pretty important questions unanswered," said POGO's Executive Director Danielle Brian.

    The 5% Project



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