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Mexico to allow planting of genetically modified crops 10

Mexico has taken the last step toward finalizing rules that will allow genetically modified crops to be planted in the country. That has many farmers in the so-called birthplace of corn worried that GM varieties could contaminate their fields. Under the rules, GM corn wouldn't technically be allowed in certain areas of Mexico considered "centers of origin" for unique corn plants, but critics nevertheless remain concerned for crop biodiversity. "This is a step in the government's intention to bow to pressure from Monsanto to allow the contamination of Mexico's native corn," said farmer Victor Suarez.

source: Reuters

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  1. usandthem Posted 4:24 am
    21 Mar 2008

    InsanityThis is insane thinking to allow Genetically Modified crops,of any kind,to be planted so close to this country.Yes,I know that we are planting GM crops in this country,but,and this is a big but,we have protection in the form of the EPA and other forms of government to check these crops.What am I saying!!!!GM crops can mix with natural crops and/or plants and pollute the food pool,changing them forever.We could starve to death or develope even more allergies then we have now.It has been proven that one of the blames for increased allergies in americans is due to the GM foods that we knowingly or unknowingly consume right now.

     We should NOT be messing with the DNA of plants or animals.We don't know what the effects will be in the long term.When you allow "Big Business" to make these decisions,then you are trusting that they have YOUR interest in mind,HAAAA.They only care about the bottom line.They have to money to move somewhere else and to eat the best foods.They thing that they(Big Business)will be immune to poisoned food,but they sure don't think very far into the future.There will be no place safe from animals and crops that have had their gene pool polluted by man.

  2. Jim Goodman Posted 4:52 am
    21 Mar 2008

    it happened in the USGM corn wouldn't technically be allowed in certain areas of Mexico considered "centers of origin"
    When Bt corn was released in the US farmers were supposed to leave a "refuge area" around the GE corn. This corn was not GE (expressing the Bt gene). The theory was that some insects would feed on this non-Bt corn and thus would not develop resistance to the Bt bacterium that was spliced into the rest of the field. I asked several farmers whom I knew had planted Bt corn how much of a refuge area they had to leave, their answer, refuge area, what's that?
    I asked a dealer how he was explaining the need for a refuge area to farmers. His answer, "well you don't need to worry about that"
    So, why wouldn't we expect Mexico's corn to be contaminated by GE as well, after all world wide contamination is the plan of Monsanto. Once the cat's out of the bag there is no getting it back in.
  3. Wolverine Posted 6:08 am
    21 Mar 2008

    Evil Nazi ScienceThat's exactly what genetic engineering is.  It should be completely outlawed.  It has no use other than to make a few people rich at the expense of life itself.  Usandthem has it right.
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    PermieWriter Posted 6:39 am
    21 Mar 2008

    Waiter, there's Bt in my teocinte!Unfortunately, there has already been serious contamination of the precious corn reserves of Mexico, as documented by Prof. Ignacio Chapela.
    There are many reasons to disallow the release of transgenic organisms, both here and abroad. And we certainly don't need any more reasons to exacerbate poor American-Mexican relations.
  5. Anastasia Posted 4:27 am
    23 Mar 2008

    How is this bad, again?Planting carefully designed genetically modified crops in Mexico will allow for higher yields, decreased destruction of crops due to insects and fungi, decreased use of insecticides... and that's only considering the crops that are on the market. Additional crops are in the works that decrease the necessary amount of nitrogenous fertilizer and that improve nutrition, among many others.
    Yes, Mexico has many wild and cultivated varieties of Zea mays. However, there has been a lot of research on exactly how many rows of corn need to surround a field to decrease pollen flow outside the field to less than 0.5%. Farmers can also use strategies such as timing the pollen shed of genetically modified maize to be before or after the receptive period of local varieties.
    These techniques can easily be mandated by law, and modified as science develops better methods. If the laws aren't enforced, it isn't the fault of the scientists who developed the crops. For example, the EPA has mandated use of insect refuges for Bt crops. If farmers aren't planting these areas, then there obviously needs to be better enforcement.
    Genetic engineering is just another new technology. Regulation of new technology is always difficult as we figure out how the technology impacts the world in unforeseen ways.
  6. Wolverine Posted 5:33 am
    24 Mar 2008

    Industry LiesAnastasia sounds like an industry hack, regardless of whether (s)he actually is.  First and foremost, genetic engineering is a potentially very harmful technology, because its basis is the assumption that humans know enough to mess with the basic building blocks of life.  Humans do not and never will know that much.
    Second, GE crops do NOT decrease pesticide use, they increase it.  One of their main claims is that they're pesticide resistant.
    Third, it should not be blindly accepted that increasing yields is a good thing.  That's what the "Green Revolution" promised, and what it brought us is a planet poisoned with pesticides.  Moreover, there is currently enough food to feed everyone; hunger is a political problem, not a problem caused by lack of food.  And why would more food for an already grossly overpopulated species be good, anyway?
  7. wiscidea Posted 8:11 am
    24 Mar 2008

    industry hacksI understand  there are many people who are concerned about the necessity or safety of GMOs. I myself do not view all GMOs, perhaps not even most GMOs, as necessary or safe. And it is very important to discuss this matter.
    But is it really useful to accuse individuals of being industry hacks just because, though they clearly care very much about the environment, do not agree with the standard, most common, most popular environmental positions on every issue?
    This does not apply simply to the discussion of GMOs, but shows up elsewhere on this and other websites. Wouldn't it be better to discuss the evidence and skip the name calling?
    I would never sincerely do the following, but present it as an example. Couldn't someone dismiss a person like Tom Philpot as an industry hack, only interested in preserving his income by supporting organic agriculture independent of any real evidence that it is better for the environment? I mean, why should anyone trust him? His livelihood depends on presenting the best information about organic food and demonizing conventional agriculture. He could be very very biased.
    So, if we all dismissed each other as hacks of one sort or another, there would, in the end, be no dialogue, no exchange of information, no sifting through the information we have, no education and changing of views for the better. All interaction would be pointless. Do we really want to live in such a world?

  8. wiscidea Posted 8:20 am
    24 Mar 2008

    pesticides vs. herbicideswolverine wrote...
    "Second, GE crops do NOT decrease pesticide use, they increase it.  One of their main claims is that they're pesticide resistant."
    Actually, those engineered to produce their own pesticides DO decrease pesticide use. The natural proteins confined to the vulnerable portions of the plants are generally less harmful than repeatedly drenching the field and nearby areas with synthetic chemicals.
    Herbicide resistance is another matter. The typical ads on television mention that the corn or soybean plants are herbicide resistant, allowing the farmer to drench a field and nearby areas with synthetic chemicals, protecting his plants and killing weeds. The point here, is that some folks claim this allows farmers to use less dangerous herbicides (protecting animals, insects, fish, et cetera) and less tilling (conserving fuel and soil).
    I'm not posting this comment to argue about whether herbicide resistance is a good thing. I just want to clarify that there are actually two things being discussed, one which substantially reduces the use of chemicals and one which supposedly replaces a hazardous or expensive chemical  -- or several chemicals -- with a less hazardous or less expensive one.
  9. Wolverine Posted 5:06 am
    25 Mar 2008

    Important To Identify Industry HacksBecause industries hire people to advocate for them without identifying themselves as being paid advocates, it's very important to identify those people.  Regardless of whether Anastasia is one of those people, his/her comments parrot industry lies and need to be identified as such.
  10. Anastasia Posted 1:31 pm
    18 Apr 2008

    From a hack ?Hack has a lot of definitions. I don't think any of them apply to me. Neither do I consider myself a parrot. The last "industry" I had any contact with was the movie theater I worked at when I was in high school. My small living stipend comes from Iowa State University.
    Wolverine, you are welcome to visit my blog. If you do, you will see that I am a young scientist who carefully considers evidence from many sources with the intent of finding solutions to the world's food, fuel, and fiber problems.
    I fully understand that the concept of genetic engineering can be confusing and even scary - especially since scientists haven't worked to explain it. Keeping up with peer-reviewed literature can be difficult, but there are plenty of sites out there such as EurekAlret and ScienceDaily that provide summaries of recent journal articles, including many on topics relevant to the debate on genetic engineering. Just like in politics, we can't depend on media spin or on books written by people who need to sell their ideas to make money. If you take the time to read what actual scientists write, everything looks different.

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