What does economic ‘recovery’ mean on an extreme weather planet? 4

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   ids Posted 11:42 am
   18 Feb 2009

   nothing thereI've been perusing that link to a blog that connects the dots of arid conflagrations to climate change for a while and it has more than a fair share of opportunistics bloggers out for financial gain from the catastrophe, whose non-solutions are practically GW status quo, tho good for their personal economic recovery.  
   The bulk of the American green al-Qa'ida that visits gristwash would find the critique of US imperialism at TomDispatch as disconcerting as the rest of the msm connecting droughts to rising GHG.

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   Pangolin Posted 6:43 pm
   18 Feb 2009

   "American green al-Qa'ida"It's always nice to know that the opposition cares. As if the "real" Al Qa'ida could have done a tenth the damage to the US and the world in the last eight years as the selected representative of Jaysus has. Bush and the GOP pretty close to destroyed America or don't you see the boarded up businesses in your town?
   The OP has a point in that any real recovery would demand taxing the wealthy and spreading economic resources where it would do some good. We can't sell cars to people whose jobs are at risk or who are supporting formerly employed family members. It doesn't matter if they are plug-in hybrids and get 200 mpg.
   If a wildfire has just swept through your town and the insurance company you've been paying for the last eight years is in chapter 11 you aren't going to be buying much. If last year a storm wiped out a quarter of your orchard and this year unseasonal warmth puts the flowering before a frost you won't be selling almonds but firewood.
   Climate change is real and it hurts when it hits home.
   
   Put the Carbon Back

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   Pompey Road Posted 12:53 am
   19 Feb 2009

   Where do you begin:From a county that consist of a little over 550,000 acres with 165,000 acres already destroyed by strip mining "mountain top removal" over the last 10 years responsible for a good part of it, I am somewhat familiar with the green Al Qa'ida and eco terrorism. I can understand the avarice and greed economic mentality behind it, especially when it committed by individuals outside the area that don't have to look at much less live in it. I never could wrap my mind around the environmental psychological brain washing of the indigenous peoples of the area who do this to themselves for the scraps the coal corporations let drop off the table.
   So applying this to the global scale where the same coal is destroying the total planet, magnify to the power of infinity if you will,  one can begin to understand the global mindset. The table is somewhat larger and the scraps fall more on the side where the big dogs are than the half starved mongrels where the minerals are extracted but the same dog eat dog psychology dominates the global  much the same as the microcosm of Southern Appalachia.
   Of course if the visual personification of total destruction can't shock the psyche of humans living in a small ecosystem one can see how the invisible futuristic threat of a possible catastrophe will fall on deaf ears. I still am the proponent of going to the source of a problem and the teaching value of each battle won in a microcosm. When viewed globally, well that's a steep learning curve but if the environmental psychology can be changed at the microcosm level I can't help but feel this would make it easier to change the global perspective about environmental suicide.
   With 50% of our electricity generated by coal and with the economic and environmental mindset being what it is. Along with the efforts being made in coal fired plant co2 reduction a full on blitz right now attacking coal at its source could prove very effective. The anti clean coal adsshowing a man walking through the doors of a clean coal facility into a barren landscape is to cerebral and still demands the masses around the table to think. The visual shock value of MTR being done and its after effects on an ever more visually oriented eco numb public could stop the practice at its source and reinforce the reality of just part of the destructive nature of coal.
   
   
   
   The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.

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   benjamin4u Posted 6:03 am
   07 Oct 2009

   it would mean more availability of funds for research in green energy feilds and pollution free technology ,very important,
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