Amtrak Joe Says Don't Go

Can you catch swine flu on the subway? 3

pig subway artSick transit?arvindgrover via flickrThis morning, Vice President Biden went slightly off-message about swine flu—just enough to freak out the White House, and potentially enough to freak out hypochondriacal Americans. Appearing on NBC’s Today Show, he responded to a question from Matt Lauer by saying he would advise his own family not to “go anywhere in confined places now.” He specifically mentioned planes, subways, and even cars as spaces that could be unsafe (he also mentioned classrooms and, uh, containers).

The White House scrambled to tweak the message, saying that all Americans should avoid air travel to Mexico and that only those who are feeling sick should avoid hopping on the subway. And lord knows public transportation doesn’t need a mass exodus, given the troubles it’s already facing.

But is Biden right? Should we avoid the subway and other confined spaces?

Not so fast, says David Goldberg of Smart Growth America, which advocates for public transportation as part of community planning. “Certainly it’s understandable that people are concerned,” he told me. “But if you can’t get on a subway or a plane, then you probably shouldn’t be in an office where they recycle the air, and you probably shouldn’t be at a shopping mall.” Far from “holing up in our bunkers,” Goldberg says, the best approach is to use common sense. “The precautions you should take if you’re using public transportation are the same as if you’re in any public space.”

Dr. John Balbus, chief health scientist at Environmental Defense, echoes that sentiment, and says the current threat is getting blown out of proportion. “Every year the United States experiences an influenza epidemic that kills thousands of people,” he says. “It runs from October through March, and we don’t tell people to stop using the subway then.” Balbus, a member of the National Academy of Sciences Board on Environmental Studies and Toxicology, says there are no indications at this stage that swine flu is much more severe than other flu strains we’ve encountered recently.

“Is it risk-free to take the subway? No, absolutely not,” says Balbus. “But it’s not risk-free to take it during any flu outbreak. It just requires common-sense precautions.”

What are those precautions? The basics: Wash your hands, cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze, and for the love of Pete, stay home if you’re sick. And one more tip for those who brave the subway, says Goldberg: “Don’t wrestle on the floor with a sneezing stranger.”

Here’s Biden in the (uninfected) flesh:

Katharine Wroth is a senior editor at Grist.

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  1. Salzman Posted 2:17 pm
    30 Apr 2009

    Of course you shouldnt travel anywhere or go into a confined place if you are sick, sneezing, coughing. But how many people will obey this? And furthermore, you can transmit the flu even if you don't know you are sick.
    So you get on a subway or bus or plane.....and what do you do when someone sneezes a foot or two away from you? (flu virus can travel on droplets up to 3 feet away). It's a bit late after you have boarded.
  2. timmullinspoundva Posted 3:11 pm
    30 Apr 2009

    Plus if you go to a hospital emergency room you could pick up something worse than flu.  ER'S are breeding grounds for MRSA ( Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aurea's )  Last Autumn health experts were recommenting flu shots for children as young as six months because of the MRSA super-bug.  We need a cure for health care in America.  http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62  In Tennessee and Virginia, Profit Care comes ahead of Patient Care.
  3. sanderson508 Posted 1:52 am
    02 May 2009

    Remember bird flu...........we were all going to die.   I am really getting tired of the flash of panic we are subject to every time a new bug or a new threat arises.   Does anyone in the media or the government remember the story about the little boy who cried wolf?

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